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The ATX Jan 19, 2021 8:53 PM

Austin | Conrad Residences (307 E. 2nd St.) | 755 Feet | 62 Floors | Never Built
 
A site plan was filed today for what's described as "mixed use high rise" and "High Rise residential" at 307 E. 2nd St. There is a typo at the top of the filing that lists the address as 307 E. 6th. But the correct address is listed further down the filing.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...pertyrsn=93500


This is for the same site that I posted about in the update thread last week when a "Pre-plan Submittal Development Consultation" permit was filed. The site plan says the site is currently an office and restaurant. The house would be the office. The restaurant referenced could be either Gus's or Micheladas based on Streetview.

https://i.imgur.com/G9mVvfy.jpg

We vs us Jan 19, 2021 11:31 PM

According to last year's revision to the Convention Center expansion plan, this lot (as part of the entirety of the half-block in the graphic) was reserved for a "future hotel." This is the northernmost #3; the southernmost #3 is the new Marriott.

Interesting to see if "mixed use" includes a hotel component or not.

https://i.imgur.com/AyzVGnL.png

The ATX Jan 19, 2021 11:57 PM

Intracorp (44 East) is the developer per this this filing about the trees on the site:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...pertyrsn=93500

We vs us Jan 20, 2021 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9165019)
Intracorp (44 East) is the developer per this this filing about the trees on the site:

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...pertyrsn=93500

That's really interesting. I was just looking up Intracorp, and generally they seem to do townhomes and midrises in Vancouver, around California and the Seattle metro. They're urban homebuilders, essentially. 44 East is sort of a departure for them -- a major highrise.

They have another very cool project they're building in Toronto -- a 60 story residential highrise called The Massey that not only has a cool texture and body, but is also anchored on a couple of historic buildings -- a lot like the proposed Masonic Lodge tower here in Austin.

https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/sites/...4708-13614.jpg

Not sure what that portends for this particular parcel, but they don't seem afraid to go tall when the market demands it . . . and if the CC expansion pans out, this is will be the place to go tall.

Echostatic Jan 20, 2021 12:37 AM

If it's anything like 44 East I'm all for it, especially in height.

The ATX Feb 9, 2021 1:42 AM

It's 53 floors:

https://i.imgur.com/yHx3IsG.png
ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/AULCC_2021/210218/

The ATX Feb 9, 2021 1:49 AM

Here's the ground floor. Two lobbies with their own elevator banks. One is "Condo" the other is most likely for hotel.

https://i.imgur.com/cmZNRIK.png
ftp://ftp.ci.austin.tx.us/ATD_AULCC/.../210218/PLANS/

N90 Feb 9, 2021 2:06 AM

What the flip, the height in Austin now is astounding.

ILUVSAT Feb 9, 2021 2:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9185036)
Here's the ground floor. Two lobbies with their own elevator banks. One is "Condo" the other is most likely for hotel.

I disagree. No restaurant...no bar...small entrances?
Unless they are on upper levels, this specific lobby seems to resemble that of an office tower (component).

KevinFromTexas Feb 9, 2021 2:17 AM

Should be a 600 footer easy. 90 Rainey is 602 feet with 51 floors, and it has hotel and residential as this one probably will. The floor to floor height on 90 Rainey is 11 feet, so with this having two more floors, it could be around ~624 feet.

EDIT: If it's an office component with residential, that would make it taller than it would be with residential and hotel. It just depends on how many of those floors would be office space, but that could add 2 to 3 feet for each office floor - say 13 to 14 feet versus 11 feet for hotel and residential.

The ATX Feb 9, 2021 3:31 AM

The site plan application was CC Approved last week. So we should get more details including all the uses soon.

We vs us Feb 9, 2021 1:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9185058)
I disagree. No restaurant...no bar...small entrances?
Unless they are on upper levels, this specific lobby seems to resemble that of an office tower (component).

Yeah I have to say I agree. The non-condo lobby is teensy. Not what you would expect from a hotel, even if main arrival happens on an upper floor/sky lobby. Not sure what the mixed use will be but I’m skeptical about a hospitality/restaurant use.

Geckos_Rule Feb 9, 2021 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by We vs us (Post 9185303)
Yeah I have to say I agree. The non-condo lobby is teensy. Not what you would expect from a hotel, even if main arrival happens on an upper floor/sky lobby. Not sure what the mixed use will be but I’m skeptical about a hospitality/restaurant use.

If it's an office, I wouldn't be surprised if it has nothing. Particularly considering the other recent office buildings going up (and their commercial/restaurant space....or lack thereof), as well as the small footprint.

If it's a hotel, I'd be quite surprised if it didn't have anything. I can't think of the last 10+ floor hotel I saw built in Austin that didn't have at least one restaurant and one bar. Perhaps the Homewood suites on Rainey, although why would you drink there when you have Rainey..... But every other recent hotel (Proper, Fairmont, Aloft/Element, Thompson, Westin, Marriot downtown, etc.) have all had at least that going. Perhaps it will just be on the 2nd or 3rd floors.

drummer Feb 9, 2021 3:43 PM

I've stayed in several hotels around the world with a smaller street presence in the form of a basic lobby which had other amenities (restaurants, etc.) on higher floors. Doesn't mean it's not office space, but there is a lot of stuff in the area already, as Geckos_Rule said. It'll certainly be interesting to find out what it is.

Sigaven Feb 9, 2021 5:27 PM

Lots of hotels have their main lobbies on upper floors (aloft/element downtown for example).

atxsnail Feb 9, 2021 6:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigaven (Post 9185603)
Lots of hotels have their main lobbies on upper floors (aloft/element downtown for example).

This is extremely common in bigger cities like NYC. The ground floor entrance is often nothing more than a hallway with stairs and an elevator bank.

GoldenBoot Feb 9, 2021 6:42 PM

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Originally Posted by atxsnail (Post 9185713)
This is extremely common in bigger cities like NYC. The ground floor entrance is often nothing more than a hallway with stairs and an elevator bank.

Yep. Pretty much all the hotels in Times Square, for example, have their lobbies, bars and restaurants on higher floors (i.e., Marriott Marquis, W-Times Square, Edition-Times Square, etc). It's actually kind of cool.

Echostatic Feb 9, 2021 7:33 PM

San Antonio's Hilton Garden Inn downtown does the same.

davidberko Feb 9, 2021 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by N90 (Post 9185049)
What the flip, the height in Austin now is astounding.

Yeah, it's like 50 stories or bust now for new developments lol. What an exciting future for this city! Have you made your move here yet?

futures Feb 10, 2021 1:35 AM

My heart jumped a bit when I saw that Toronto building. Wish that was the rendering for this project.


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