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jlousa May 8, 2012 6:41 PM

633 Main St | 44.5M | 16 Fl | Completed
 
Here are the details on another Chinatown revitilazation project. Architect firm is Chris Dikeakos which has done a bunch of projects for Blue Sky/Bosa in the past.

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Blue Sky Properties has applied to the City of Vancouver to rezone 633 Main Street from HA-1A (Historic Area) District to CD-1 (Comprehensive Development) District. The proposal is for a 16-storey mixed-use building with ground-level commercial uses and 151 residential units. The proposal includes a floor space ratio (FSR) of 9.29, a maximum height of 150 ft. (45.7 m), and 158 parking spaces
Context and Project Data
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...rojectdata.pdf

Context Rendering
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...renderings.pdf

Floor and Roof Plans
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...floorplans.pdf

Parkade Level Plans
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ts/parking.pdf

Building Elevation Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ents/elevs.pdf

Building Section Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...s/sections.pdf

Shadow Studies
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ts/shadows.pdf

View Impact Analysis
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin...ents/views.pdf

Landscape Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/plannin.../landscape.pdf


Surprised to see with this current administration, but it's nice to see this project finance the extension of Georgia St on that block. It's a relative cheap fix and although it wouldn't serve a huge purpose it would elimanate a current barrier.

jsbertram May 8, 2012 8:14 PM

Looking at the landscaping and S. Elevation, it appears to me that the stub of E. Georgia (that used to connect to the old Georgia Viaduct until the 1970s) being used as a parking lot will be lowered and turned back into a street to connect to the laneway.

The other piece of Georgia alongside the Chinatown parkade (from the lane to Quebec) could be turned back into a street so there is a another connection from Chinatown to Quebec St (and then Expo or Pacific Boulevards).

If this small stub of E. Georgia is removed, they will be ripping up some of the long-forgotten streetcar tracks. Although the old Georgia Viaduct had tracks on it, apparently the structure was so badly under-engineered that the streetcars caused the viaduct to vibrate & shake badly as they drove along it. The streetcars only used the viaduct for a few weeks after it opened before they were banned, and the tracks were never used again.

The Viaduct was considered for use by the Interurbans to get downtown, but owing to their heavier cars the viaduct didn't have the strength to handle these trains. By the 1930s nobody had the $buck$ to pay for upgrading the viaduct so the Interurbans could use it.

red-paladin May 8, 2012 9:28 PM

Looks great to me.

phesto May 8, 2012 9:54 PM

Why bother with any reference to Chinatown at all if it's just going to be one little tacky strip of "art".

hollywoodnorth May 9, 2012 12:26 AM

wow great project I'm very excited about this one more than any of the others in Chinatown!

the Georgia street extension is much needed if you ask me ... and I live in the area! ;) :)

3D Ninja May 9, 2012 1:44 AM

The context rendering seems pretty misleading, unless there's also a taller project going in at Main and Keefer. The street wall is only 3 or 4 storeys on the north half of that block.

jlousa May 9, 2012 2:01 AM

There's a 17 storey tower proposed right next door at Main and Keefer and then 10 storeys just across from that.


601-627 Main (17flrs)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=194320

189 Keefer (10flrs)
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=198109

bc2mb May 9, 2012 3:29 AM

I love it.. this is fantastic news for Chinatown, just what the neighbourhood needs - more residents. Hopefully this will spur more development along Main, north of Hastings too. Number 5 Orange anyone?

LeftCoaster May 9, 2012 3:36 PM

Fantastic, I'm very excited for this next round of development with 10-20 storey buildings filling the flats and east side.

This will do nothing for the height fanboys but the urban fabric of the city is going to be so much better in 10 years if this buildout happens.

SFUVancouver May 9, 2012 7:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 5695179)
Fantastic, I'm very excited for this next round of development with 10-20 storey buildings filling the flats and east side.

This will do nothing for the height fanboys but the urban fabric of the city is going to be so much better in 10 years if this buildout happens.

I wholeheartedly agree, LeftCoaster. This typology of building, along with high-quality C2 infill along the arterials, are the real workhorses of urbanism and growth in the city. They are quicker to build and can pack a comparable amount of density per city block as downtown point towers and can do so without raising (too) much of animosity in the community in neighbourhoods outside of the downtown core and the metro core.

officedweller May 9, 2012 11:00 PM

Looks good - should provide a nice entryway to Chinatown.

giallo May 10, 2012 3:40 AM

I'm another fan of all this mid-rise density popping up in Chinatown. It's really going to be the shot in the arm that the neighborhood needs.

s211 May 10, 2012 3:25 PM

While a nice design, this feels like just another SE False Creek building. Nothing new or imaginative here. What's it going to take to break the mold?

officedweller May 10, 2012 6:58 PM

I think it's a bit better than an SEFC building - it's a bit taller and the form is more sculpted with the setbacks. SEFC towers (private lands) are really just short point towers.

jlousa Jan 4, 2013 7:26 AM

Project revised, and density slightly lowered. Ties in better with it's proposed neighbour to the North.

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Changes from the previous submission (dated April 12, 2012) include:

an increase in residential units from 151 units to 188 units
a reduction in floor space ratio (FSR) from 9.29 to 8.86
a reduction in parking from 158 spaces to 72 spaces
Context/Project Data
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...ctdata_rev.pdf

Context Rendering
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...erings_rev.pdf

Floor and Roof Plans
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...rplans_rev.pdf

Parkade Level Plans
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...arking_rev.pdf

Building Elevation Drawings
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/.../elevs_rev.pdf

Streetscape Elevation Drawings
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...streetelev.pdf

Building Section Drawings
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...ctions_rev.pdf

Shadow Studies
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...hadows_rev.pdf

View Impact Analysis
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/.../views_rev.pdf

Landscape Drawings
http://former.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/...dscape_rev.pdf

officedweller Jan 4, 2013 8:49 PM

Thanks for that.

Not keen on the brick column at the corner of the corner balconies.
I realize its there to square off the building, but it's not necessary structurally and will darken and enclose the balcony spaces. If they remove that column, the top podium floor could have a setback (and more light) at the podium roofline.

That render showing 611 and 633 side-by-side really presents a depressing podium streetwall wall of brown brick (esp. if you think Maynards is bad). It also makes the podium of 611 look too plain (i.e. needs a cornice or facsimile treatment like 633).

It would be nice if they broke up the facade a bit more using sections with different colours of brick.

The streetscape elevations make the Solterra project look tiny.

dleung Jan 6, 2013 12:20 AM

What's the deal with the cheap vinyl awnings in all Chinatown-esque developments? Sigh, another faux-historic pile...

logan5 Jan 6, 2013 2:20 AM

Of the 3 projects in the immediate area, I like this one the best. The brickwork goes up 10 stories, then a glass condo finally rears its ugly head. I think this is fine though, because imo the glass condo portion will be out of the pedestrian scope, so if it were to rise another 10 stories it would probably not be noticeable from the person on the street perspective.

Maybe if all tower developers followed this formula of using better quality materials and architecture for at least the first 10 to 12 stories, "condos" wouldn't have the bad reputation that they have and the public might be more willing to accept greater heights.

That new building at Kingsway and Nanaimo is so ugly (imo) that the residents in that area will not want to see any more towers built because they now associate towers with terrible architecture.

jlousa Jan 6, 2013 3:10 AM

The tower at Kingsway and Nanaimo should never have been built and thankfully that mistake won't be remade as the remaining stretch is limited to 16 storeys in one spot, 14 storeys in 2 spots and 12 storeys in 2 more spots with the rest of the stretch at 8-10 storeys.

Think the height, massing and density being proposed along this stretch of Main are just about prefect for the location and that something at 2/3rd to 3/4 scale would be a great goal along our other arterials.

logan5 Jan 6, 2013 4:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jlousa (Post 5961092)
Think the height, massing and density being proposed along this stretch of Main are just about prefect for the location and that something at 2/3rd to 3/4 scale would be a great goal along our other arterials.

What do you mean by 3/4 scale? Do you mean the height of the building in relation to the width of the street?


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