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SFUVancouver Oct 7, 2009 10:24 PM

The Mark | 123m | Completed
 
This project by Onni Group of companies is located at 1372 Seymour Street, at Pacific. It is a mixed-use highrise with 41 storeys of apartments, a seven-storey podium facing onto Seymour and five-storey podium on the lane, and a 37-space daycare centre to be operated by the City of Vancouver. The project will achieve LEED Gold and will feature green roofs and a photovoltaic array.

The site of the tower is currently in use as a community garden. It is bordered on Seymour by Karis Place, a BC Housing project that will provide supportive housing to urban singles in 100+ self-contained suites in an 11-storey mid-rise tower. Karis Place is now under construction and is one of the "14 sites" of social housing being developed by BC Housing in partnership with the city's leading non-profit social housing operators, who will be on-site 24 hours a day and provide controlled access to the building as well as supportive programming to help the "core-need" residents. Karis Place will achieve LEED Gold.

The Mark shares its Pacific Boulevard frontage with "501 Pacific", one of the first residential towers in the Downtown South annex of Yaletown. The 501 fronts onto both Pacific Blvd and Richards street and shares the lane with The Mark. At the base of the 501 is a two-storey podium, now considered low by Vancouver standards, and on the lane elevation the podium features a landscaped outdoor amenity space for residents that includes a sand volleyball court. The 501 has the unique distinction of being the only major project of the last decade to receive its development permit approval from the Development Permit Board after having failed to have received the support of the Urban Design Panel after its obligatory two attempts. The 501 shares its Richards frontage with the recently-completed Kindred Place social housing project. Kindred Place was not one of the "14 sites" set of social housing projects.

The Mark features a combination of curtain- and window-wall glazing schemes. High quality slab to slab curtain wall will make up the tower's western facade while floor to ceiling window wall will be used on the tower's north and east facades. The trianglar floorplate of the tower presents a faltiron elevation to the west and balconies have been positioned on this elevation to maximize the amenity of the outdoor space while minimizing the solar gain of the units. A combination of slab projections, shading devices and both spandrel and fritted glass treatments will address solar gain on the primarily vision-glass tower.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7576/themarksw.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/pu...merights20.png Taken by SFUVancouver, October 7th, 2009

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1868/themarkflatiron.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/pu...merights20.png Taken by SFUVancouver, October 7th, 2009

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/239...arkseymour.jpg
http://creativecommons.org/images/pu...merights20.png Taken by SFUVancouver, October 7th, 2009

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http://creativecommons.org/images/pu...merights20.png Taken by SFUVancouver, October 7th, 2009

[Edit] Adding renders sourced from the project's website and first posted by vanman

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Originally Posted by vanman (Post 4556279)


WarrenC12 Oct 7, 2009 10:50 PM

Any update on the podium height for this building? They were aiming for 7 IIRC, but my fellow 501 owners are fighting the good fight to keep it down. :D

I don't live at the 501 and my suite doesn't face this site, but 7 is a little much.

Hed Kandi Oct 7, 2009 11:39 PM

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SFUVancouver Oct 8, 2009 1:33 AM

The Mark passed the UDP tonight.

The podium is 7 storeys on the Seymour side and 5 on the lane adjacent to the 501.

Yume-sama Oct 8, 2009 1:35 AM

That's a nice location, some people should have some pretty good views. Always good to see 40 floors!

BigWilly Oct 8, 2009 1:49 AM

Although it maybe a great location to build a skyscraper and great that we can all see another tower rise downtown ...thats a horrid location to live, who wants to live on the same block as a niteclub thats had a history of gang violence, shootings and stabbings??

I suppose for investors who will probably never live there it maybe a great buy but to buy and live there?? ..i'd pass.

Delirium Oct 8, 2009 2:06 AM

that club won't be there forever. that whole block is ripe for redevelopment...

Hed Kandi Oct 8, 2009 2:58 AM

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SFUVancouver Oct 8, 2009 3:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hed Kandi (Post 4495192)
What is the final height?

140 metres is proposed. It passed the UDP at that height. Now it's up to the DPB. The view cone at this location is at 140 metres.

Hed Kandi Oct 8, 2009 3:09 AM

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Mininari Oct 8, 2009 3:20 AM

So this is one of those twin "gateway" towers that was talked about before?
140M = 462ft ... not bad, and it would really appear dominant as viewed from the south.

metroXpress Oct 8, 2009 3:27 AM

Thanks for the pics of the model :)

trofirhen Oct 8, 2009 4:01 AM

Nice, no criticismsm of the building, except ...... that it IS very "stereotyped.
That is, it looks so much like so many others it is giving Vancouver than homogenousely "bland" feeling to it. Perhaps this is something being striven for, but there is a monotonous blandness developing in the central city. It's not unpleasant in and of itself, but it would be nice to see the odd touch of class, like the Montgomery-Washington Tower in San Fran, or the Chateau Champlain in Montreal.

flight_from_kamakura Oct 8, 2009 4:43 AM

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Originally Posted by trofirhen (Post 4495308)
Nice, no criticismsm of the building, except ...... that it IS very "stereotyped.
That is, it looks so much like so many others it is giving Vancouver than homogenousely "bland" feeling to it. Perhaps this is something being striven for, but there is a monotonous blandness developing in the central city. It's not unpleasant in and of itself, but it would be nice to see the odd touch of class, like the Montgomery-Washington Tower in San Fran, or the Chateau Champlain in Montreal.

not to be contentious, because i'm always with the guy who pushes for the architectural audacity, but these are pretty bad examples. sf's montgomery washington is ugly or, worse, generic. and jesus, man, mtl's classy "rape à fromage" (that's what everyone calls it), the chateau champlain, is universally ridiculed and despised by residents of that city. people find it ugly and rundown, and the thing destroyed the southern end of what was once the city's grandest victorian square (then dominion, now dorchester), and permanently ruined that part of gauchetiere street. it represents something like the epitome of ill-advised modern architecture!

vanman Oct 8, 2009 4:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigWilly (Post 4495083)
Although it maybe a great location to build a skyscraper and great that we can all see another tower rise downtown ...thats a horrid location to live, who wants to live on the same block as a niteclub thats had a history of gang violence, shootings and stabbings??

I suppose for investors who will probably never live there it maybe a great buy but to buy and live there?? ..i'd pass.

Blah blah blah..... I got a buddy who lives in the 501 and the location isn't bad at all. For one thing your only a block away from the seawall. And what nightclub in Vancouver doesn't have a history of violence? It comes with the territory of being a big city.

LeftCoaster Oct 8, 2009 4:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Mininari (Post 4495229)
So this is one of those twin "gateway" towers that was talked about before?
140M = 462ft ... not bad, and it would really appear dominant as viewed from the south.

No it is not, the two gateway towers discussed earlier would be located right within the current off and on ramps for the Granville Bridge.

SFU thanks for the pics, the tower looks ok, but nothing special imo. And its Onni so it will probably turn out worse than it looks in renderings.

At least its tall. :shrug:

flight_from_kamakura Oct 8, 2009 5:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 4495413)
And its Onni so it will probably turn out worse than it looks in renderings.

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cjohnny4 Oct 8, 2009 5:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vanman (Post 4495401)
And what nightclub in Vancouver doesn't have a history of violence?

Umm...the gay ones. (Except when gay bashing occurs...)

vanhattan Oct 8, 2009 5:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigWilly (Post 4495083)
Although it maybe a great location to build a skyscraper and great that we can all see another tower rise downtown ...thats a horrid location to live, who wants to live on the same block as a niteclub thats had a history of gang violence, shootings and stabbings??

I suppose for investors who will probably never live there it maybe a great buy but to buy and live there?? ..i'd pass.

There is no nightclub on the same block as this building. If you are referring to the old Club Atlantis, that is on the other side of the street block on Richards. You would not even be able to see the club from this building.

As far as location, it is an excellent one. One block from the seawall, one block to the Davie and Granville neighborhood and two blocks to the heart of Yaletown.

The building however looks a bit lackluster like most others in Van. Will wait for the 'final' renders before making a final opinion.

WarrenC12 Oct 8, 2009 5:47 AM

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Originally Posted by vanman (Post 4495401)
Blah blah blah..... I got a buddy who lives in the 501 and the location isn't bad at all. For one thing your only a block away from the seawall. And what nightclub in Vancouver doesn't have a history of violence? It comes with the territory of being a big city.

Yep I lived at the 501 for the first 4 years it was open. The nightclub wasn't great, but IMHO better than homeless/hookers right outside your door, like my buddy's place on Seymour. The proximity to Yaletown and the seawall is great.


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