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antinimby May 8, 2008 11:16 PM

NEW YORK | 45 Broad St | 1,200 FT | 68 FLOORS
 
JUST SAY NOBU


http://www.nypost.com/seven/05082008/photos/re049a.jpg
GLASSY CHASSIS: The Nobu tower will rise
at 45 Broad St.



May 8, 2008 -- Here is a first look at the planned Nobu Hotel and Residences in the Financial District, which will rise in a 62-story glass tower at 45 Broad St.

Kent Swig of Swig Equities has announced that the nearly 650-foot structure will include 77 "super-luxury" condos on floors 41 through 62, as well as a 128-room hotel and approximately 13,000 square feet of retail space on the ground level and second floor. There will be a Nobu restaurant on the third floor.

David Rockwell and the Rockwell Group have designed the interior, while the firm of Moed de Armas & Shannon designed the glass exterior with oblique curves. There will be a six-story base with a transparent glass facade.

The eco-friendly building will include a health club and spa, open to both residents and hotel guests, with an indoor pool and outdoor sun terrace.

Partners in the project include Robert De Niro, Nobu Matsuhisa, Richie Notar and Meir Teper. Drew Nieporent is also a partner in the restaurant.

Copyright 2008 NYP Holdings, Inc.

antinimby May 8, 2008 11:24 PM

Here are a few pics I took of the site last fall...


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/839/img0063tb3.jpg http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8194/img0060zy1.jpg

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2636/img0064hu9.jpg

Crawford May 8, 2008 11:47 PM

The height is wrong. Per DOB, it's 709 feet.

chex May 8, 2008 11:52 PM

nice, sleek tower...
how they do to build in such a small lot... deep foundation??
very nice! love this kind of towers!
do you have a pic of the area?? or the skyline around?

Scruffy May 9, 2008 12:03 AM

Sweet Moses!! I love these out of the blue towers. Narrow towers is the trend this past year. Sky House, 785 8th Ave, Saya, and 50 West. Fantastic

Dac150 May 9, 2008 12:13 AM

These just keep coming and coming. I love it. Yet more density for Lower Manhattan.

hartss May 9, 2008 12:32 AM

What used to be there?
 
Haven't been on Broad Street in many years, but worked there in the 90s. Wasn't this spot home to a downscale department store? If anyone remembers, please let me know. Thanks.

gttx May 9, 2008 4:15 AM

Wow. They sure are packing buildings in there....

NYguy May 9, 2008 5:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 3539577)
JUST SAY NOBU


http://www.nypost.com/seven/05082008/photos/re049a.jpg
GLASSY CHASSIS: The Nobu tower will rise
at 45 Broad St.

Love the curve. These new, slender residential towers seem to fit anywhere.

scalziand May 9, 2008 5:21 AM

They sure do. I wonder if this is close enough to reflect the curve of GS.

Thefigman May 9, 2008 12:15 PM

Sweet building!

Will the curved side of the building face the WTC? I can't grasp the angle from the rendering.

CGII May 9, 2008 1:19 PM

There's always room for jello downtown.

It constantly amazes me. I always think downtown is filled and needs to expand North, but there must be four or five developments like this that prove me wrong.

Scruffy May 9, 2008 10:24 PM

This isn't close to either the world trade center or Goldman Sachs. Its on the east side of broad st. 1 block south and 1 block east of the stock exchange. the curve, if its not blocked in, will be seen from governor's island and Brooklyn

kznyc2k May 10, 2008 4:15 AM

Visuals:

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/9849/45b1jx0.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4693/45b2kj8.jpg

JayPro May 10, 2008 4:49 AM

20 Exchange Place (741') has herself a pretty sleek, albeit somewhat plain-looking neighbor (Then again, renderings as we all know aren't everything. If 709' is correct, the rendering shown doesn't reflect it IMO).

The curve does however add a noteworthy contrast to 20EP's classic presence.

Dac150 May 10, 2008 7:14 PM

This is a prime example of 'demand speaking'. If there is demand, developers will do what is possible to fill the need.

NYguy May 10, 2008 9:30 PM

It'll be behind the Beaver House (not pictured)


curbed.com
http://curbed.com/uploads/2008_5_45broad.png


wider shot of Downtown
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/77418251/original.jpg

Lecom May 10, 2008 10:08 PM

Nice design. A mix of 50 West and 123 Washington.

antinimby May 11, 2008 2:02 AM

Swig MXD Tower Has Industry Confidence


http://www.globest.com/newspics/nyc_kentswig.jpg
Swig

Last updated: May 9, 2008 08:37am

NEW YORK CITY-Some commercial real estate insiders have recently expressed nervousness in regards to the current economic state.

However, Kent Swig, president of locally-based Swig Equities LLC, who recently revealed plans to construct a 62-story, luxury, mixed-use development Downtown, tells GlobeSt.com that the real estate market is strong. "I would rather be building into a better market than one that is slipping."

Swig tells GlobeSt.com that construction on the all-glass tower development, which includes the US debut of the Nobu Hotel and Residences and a Nobu restaurant, will take anywhere from 20 to 24 months to build, "and I am assuming that we will be in a better market then, than we are today." Although Swig says he has construction cost numbers, he cannot provide them at this time. He did note that he anticipates ground-breaking in the third quarter of this year.

He explains that it is a great time to be Downtown. "There are more and more tenants heading there." The tower will be located in the heart of Lower Manhattan's Financial District neighborhood at 45 Broad St., across and down the street from the New York Stock Exchange.

Hotel experts note that there is a lot of confidence in Downtown at the moment. Sumner Baye, president and partner of International Hotel Network, tells GlobeSt.com, that "Downtown is a very interesting situation. A lot of success for projects, such as these, depends on who will remain downtown," he says referring to the importance of keeping tenants such as the banking/financial world downtown.

"Although we are in a tighter money market, I have no doubt in Swig's ability to get things done," he says, although he explains that as with any situation, there are always risks to consider. "We are talking about looking at the future and what it's going to look like two years from now," he says. "It's always a gamble, because you never know what things are going to be like a few years from now, however I believe that area will be very much alive."

Baye notes that the key to success, is to keep the people that are down there right now, down there. "Hopefully, these large companies will stay downtown. Do we need condo/hotels Downtown?" he queries, "yes. There is a demand and there will be a need for more hotel rooms as current projects such as the WTC get completed. I feel positive about the future here."

Daniel Lesser, senior managing director of CB Richard Ellis' Valuation & Advisory Services and Hospitality and Gaming Group, tells GlobeSt.com that Downtown continues to undergo major change and development with significant office, residential, tourist and transportation projects expected to be completed over the next five years. "The area is increasingly evolving into a 24/7 full service neighborhood with the addition of high-end high-rise residential apartments and condominiums as well as restaurants, retail and entertainment venues," he explains. "Diverse groups of office tenants have been migrating to lower Manhattan to take advantage of lower rents when compared to Midtown. Hotels are experiencing strong occupancy levels and increases in room rates that exceed underlying inflation rates."

Lesser continues that the World Trade Center site is the top visited downtown tourist destination, with more than five million visitors expected annually once the memorial and museum open. "Once completed, the World Trade Center Transportation hub and the Fulton Street Transit Center are anticipated to revolutionize commuting and travel patterns for the city of New York as a whole, and will position downtown as a world class neighborhood."

Lesser tells GlobeSt.com that similar to all of Manhattan, "Downtown is currently 'under-hoteled' with a variety of new lodging projects in various stages of development. Given the increased corporate and leisure/transient demand expected during the foreseeable future, occupancy levels should remain strong coupled with continued growth in room rates above inflationary levels."

(The state of Downtown as a whole, will be spotlighted on May 13 at RealShare Downtown New York. Both Swig and Lesser will participate as speakers at the event.)

Stuart Saft, a partner with Dewey & LeBoeuf LLP, tells GlobeSt.com that this is the perfect time to start working on a new development or rehab project "because of the time it takes to bring a new building to complete and bring it to market. A typical building beginning construction today will not be ready for occupancy until 2011, which is after the economy has recovered from its present tribulations. By that time the older buildings will have been absorbed and the new building will hit a marketplace that looks entirely different than today." Saft explains that this is particularly true of the New York City market, which is "still an international financial and tourist center where the shrinking dollar is a great lure for foreign buyers and renters."

This is an interesting time and an interesting project, explains Deborah Jackson, executive managing director of Weiser Realty Advisors LLC. "This area is one where many of the luxury retailers have gone, which is positive for the project--both as it enhances the area and probably makes leasing the retail space in the property a little easier."

One question has to be in the residential component, she says. "The market remains relatively strong in Manhattan but one might question the ease in marketing this number of units in this submarket. Still, we have seen a lot of interest in luxury residential units from foreigners--who find the weak dollar to their advantage."

Jackson agrees with Lesser in that tourism is strong in the City. She also notes that "while the press talks about a 'growing' recession, Manhattan remains relatively strong (in most areas). By the time this project opens, even Wall Street may be on stronger footing."

Jackson did express concern about the downtown location versus midtown, but she says that "hotels have worked before downtown, and with new office product over time, should work again."

The primary elements of the project at 45 Broad St. include approximately 13,000 sf of retail space located on the ground level and second floor; a Nobu restaurant on the third floor; a 128-room, five-star Nobu Hotel with a ground floor entrance; as well as 77 super-luxury condominium residences on floors 41 through 62, which Swig tells GlobeSt.com should have no trouble getting filled.

Swig Equities will serve as the exclusive sales and marketing agent for the project. According to the Alliance for Downtown New York, Lower Manhattan has one of the highest median household income rates, having increased 47% since 2004 to $162,700.

The building will be sustainable, meeting design and construction requirements for LEED Certification by the US Green Building Council for environmental responsibility and energy efficiency. Swig tells GlobeSt.com that the decision to go green was easy. "It is the right thing to do.

Buildings account for the most amount of greenhouse emissions. It was a pretty straight forward decision to "be responsible."

Copyright © 2008 ALM Properties, Inc.

Scruffy May 11, 2008 3:26 AM

Its such a small frontage on Broad st to have an entrance to a hotel, a possible different entrance for residential, a third entrance for Nobu, and then whatever street frontage left over goes to retail.

Retail on 1-2
Nobu on 3
Nobu Hotel-4-9? it said 5 floors

Residences 41-62

So whats on 10-40?

antinimby May 11, 2008 6:00 AM

Floors 4 to 40 would be the hotel portion. It does not say five floors anywhere. Maybe you misread five-star as five floors?

Besides, it's not possible to fit 128 hotel rooms on only five floors.

Scruffy May 11, 2008 6:29 AM

You're right. In my work haze I misread it. thanks for catching that.

Fabb May 11, 2008 7:35 AM

If it catches the attention away from the Beaver house, that'll be a good thing.

NYguy May 11, 2008 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 3544097)
Although Swig says he has construction cost numbers, he cannot provide them at this time. He did note that he anticipates ground-breaking in the third quarter of this year.

The primary elements of the project at 45 Broad St. include approximately 13,000 sf of retail space located on the ground level and second floor; a Nobu restaurant on the third floor; a 128-room, five-star Nobu Hotel with a ground floor entrance; as well as 77 super-luxury condominium residences on floors 41 through 62, which Swig tells GlobeSt.com should have no trouble getting filled.

So, a groundbreaking by the fall, yet another will be under construction Downtown before the end of the year.

NYC2ATX May 11, 2008 12:01 PM

Dear Jesus.

They are just overrunning this town, aren't they. I love it.

Am I the only one who thinks Beaver House is cool? (That's the black and yellow one, right?)

vaporvr6 May 11, 2008 2:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 3544681)
So, a groundbreaking by the fall, yet another will be under construction Downtown before the end of the year.

things being the way they are in NYC, i'm not going to count this as a done deal until steel is rising from the ground.

Dac150 May 11, 2008 3:10 PM

^^^I consider this a bit different though. I have no doubt it's a go.

Scruffy May 11, 2008 5:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StatenIslander237 (Post 3544703)
Dear Jesus.

They are just overrunning this town, aren't they. I love it.

Am I the only one who thinks Beaver House is cool? (That's the black and yellow one, right?)

Im sorry but yes. I was there on Tuesday, its not hideous per say but i didn't like it at all. I feel that that intersection is prominent enough to require something far classier. I haven't seen what it looks like from across the river though

antinimby May 11, 2008 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vaporvr6 (Post 3544787)
things being the way they are in NYC, i'm not going to count this as a done deal until steel is rising from the ground.

If you are waiting for steel to rise here, you may have to wait a long time. :haha:

CGII May 12, 2008 2:03 AM

I'm not too worried about the Beaver House. At the rate NY has been moving in the past four decades, it'll get reclad before any sentimental memories get created around it.

NYguy May 12, 2008 9:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StatenIslander237 (Post 3544703)
Am I the only one who thinks Beaver House is cool? (That's the black and yellow one, right?)

I didn't like it at first, but grew to like it. It's something different for Downtown, especially in that area. It's not as if any other typical residential would have been well received.

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/88764330/medium.jpg

NYguy May 12, 2008 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 3545496)
If you are waiting for steel to rise here, you may have to wait a long time. :haha:


Yeah, these residential, mixed-use developments are always slow to rise, but once they begin, they dart up very quickly. I don't expect this one to be any different.

America 117 May 12, 2008 11:03 PM

this is great new york needs a skinny building
but why is everything soo sloooww:slob: :slob: :slob: :slob:

Dac150 May 12, 2008 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CGII (Post 3545861)
I'm not too worried about the Beaver House. At the rate NY has been moving in the past four decades, it'll get reclad before any sentimental memories get created around it.

No, I would highly doubt that (especially being a residential tower). I would like it to happen, but I just don't see it happening.

Dac150 May 12, 2008 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 3547543)
I didn't like it at first, but grew to like it. It's something different for Downtown, especially in that area.

Same deal with me pretty much. I'm still not too fond of it, but the fact that its different kind of made me appreciate it more. I guess I have no choice but to like it being that I pass by it nearly everyday.:rolleyes:

ZZ-II May 14, 2008 5:44 PM

beaver houase is cool i think, i like it alot. the color-design gives a good contrast

Scruffy May 15, 2008 12:25 AM

Nobu us the name of a very exclusive high class restaurant here in Manhattan. And now they are branching into hotels.

Swede May 15, 2008 7:55 AM

I'm really liking this one, but I'd like to see the other sides too. How will the space between Nobu and the Beaver look? seems they'll be really really close.
The density of downtown is already unbelievable and keeps going up :)

Antares41 May 15, 2008 4:53 PM

^That space is mostly occupied by 55 Broad street building (~403 ft. ). The #13 post by Scruffy has a good overhead view. The parking lot to the roughly northeast is where the Beaver House is now, 55 Broad is on the corner, and the Nobu will be roughly to the northwest of it.

NYguy May 27, 2008 12:08 PM

http://blogs.usatoday.com/hotelhotsh...t-de-niro.html

Robert De Niro, hotel magnate


Actor Robert De Niro, who's a key investor in the just-opened The Greenwich Hotel in his beloved TriBeCa neighborhood in downtown Manhattan, is involved with another hotel project.

The Oscar-winner, who also has invested in Nobu Matsuhisa’s trendy Nobu restaurants, is a partner in the Japanese chef’s Nobu Hotel and Residences, due to break ground this year in Manhattan’s financial district and open in 2010. It'll be a sleek 62-story tower with a Nobu restauarant.

Matsuhisa aims to meld "the impeccable attention to detail characteristic of Japanese hospitality with modern amenities and sophisticated luxuries," he says in a statement.

It's planned as part of a Nobu chain -- the first one is going up on Israel's Mediterranean "Riviera."

Do readers have thoughts on chefs going into the hotel business on a large scale? I know some have inns at their restaurants, but this is a far bigger deal. What do you think?

I also find it interesting that De Niro -- who is known for being a non-publicity-seeking actor's actor and whose ever-expanding restaurant investments include Nobu and Ago -- is really jumping into the hospitality business.

chex May 27, 2008 6:35 PM

thanx for the location pics, both of you... so, it will be visible in the skyline when coming from the statue?

NYC4Life May 27, 2008 6:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chex (Post 3577285)
thanx for the location pics, both of you... so, it will be visible in the skyline when coming from the statue?


In a cluster of similarly sized towers in height in front of it, it may not be easily visible. Also considering this will be a slim tower being surrounded by bulky towers.

chex May 27, 2008 8:09 PM

yeah, i thought it could be possible, when i saw the google image from above, and so the park, where the ferry is... but as u say, lot of similar towers around, i would love if it can be visible tho.. haha.

NYC4Life May 29, 2008 4:24 AM

My guess would be it'll be more easily visible if u came from the north along the Hudson since you'll be looking at downtown from the lowrise perspective.

NYguy May 29, 2008 1:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC4Life (Post 3580390)
My guess would be it'll be more easily visible if u came from the north along the Hudson since you'll be looking at downtown from the lowrise perspective.

It wouldn't bee too visible from that angle.

JayPro May 29, 2008 5:01 PM

My best guess from looking at the perspectives is that she'll be easiest spotted from a generalized east-west vantage point, i.e. Queens and a good slice of Brooklyn.
Again, I say great company for 20 Exchange.

NYguy May 30, 2008 1:41 PM

It would best be viewed from this angle, by miamihitman

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3144/...2fecf439_b.jpg


And this one from Sister72

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3058/...405b1aac_b.jpg

chex May 31, 2008 7:55 PM

the first pic is amazing, only ny... and thats the point i was saying, the park where the ferry leaves to the statue, i guess it is... nice place! maybe comparing with other buildings height we can tell...

America 117 Jun 1, 2008 3:27 AM

lower manhatten has alot of skinny towers and Nobu tower will just add to it

Scruffy Jun 10, 2008 3:00 AM

the location today
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...a/DSC02065.jpg

Apparently the tower behind is about to come down or so im told


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