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Bill Ditnow Mar 15, 2019 2:54 PM

Heh, love that risque painting/sculpture

The NY Times architecture critic today, in a long piece, really slammed Hudson Yards, on financial, architectural and aesthetic grounds. He particularly hates the Vessel: “stairway to nowhere …” “preens” … “casts egregious shadows…” “…ruinously manspreading…” etc.

On the whole, the project is “socialism for billionaires,” he writes, and is “nearly devoid or urban design.” He scoffs at buildings that look like “glass shards on top of a wall” and “shiny envelopes” without any “semblance of human scale.”

For me, the “glass shards” and angularity of a couple of the buildings are the best part. It reminds me very much, in spirit, of Libeskind’s original conception of the World Trade Center site, all lost with the abandonment of the off-center spire at One World Trade and the decision to drop Foster’s slanting diamond roof for Two World Trade. In the end we’ll get four boring flat-topped buildings, even assuming 2 World Trade is ever built.

He concludes with one of the cheapest and oldest shots in the architecture critics’ book — reveling in the view from the observation deck, and then cracking that from it, he doesn’t have to see Hudson Yards. Of course, people said the same thing about the Eiffel Tower observation deck.

jsbrook Mar 15, 2019 3:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill Ditnow (Post 8506799)
Heh, love that risque painting/sculpture

The NY Times architecture critic today, in a long piece, really slammed Hudson Yards, on financial, architectural and aesthetic grounds. He particularly hates the Vessel: “stairway to nowhere …” “preens” … “casts egregious shadows…” “…ruinously manspreading…” etc.

On the whole, the project is “socialism for billionaires,” he writes, and is “nearly devoid or urban design.” He scoffs at buildings that look like “glass shards on top of a wall” and “shiny envelopes” without any “semblance of human scale.”

For me, the “glass shards” and angularity of a couple of the buildings are the best part. It reminds me very much, in spirit, of Libeskind’s original conception of the World Trade Center site, all lost with the abandonment of the off-center spire at One World Trade and the decision to drop Foster’s slanting diamond roof for Two World Trade. In the end we’ll get four boring flat-topped buildings, even assuming 2 World Trade is ever built.

He concludes with one of the cheapest and oldest shots in the architecture critics’ book — reveling in the view from the observation deck, and then cracking that from it, he doesn’t have to see Hudson Yards. Of course, people said the same thing about the Eiffel Tower observation deck.

It's a pretty boring, repetitive, and monotonous skyline that Hudson Yards created. I like the buildings much better at ground level, like the Vessel, and like how the public space and landscaping is shaping up.

NYguy Mar 15, 2019 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 8506785)
This is my favorite tower at HY so far. Looking forward to using that fancy Equinox when it opens this summer.

It's overshadowed I think being so close to 30, but place it someplace else in Manhattan and it would get more attention.



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Bill Ditnow Mar 15, 2019 3:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jsbrook (Post 8506826)
It's a pretty boring, repetitive, and monotonous skyline that Hudson Yards created. I like the buildings much better at ground level, like the Vessel, and like how the public space and landscaping is shaping up.

Hmm, can't agree with this. 30 and 10 seem particularly dramatic to me. So far I've only seen the site from afar, but plan to get down there soon. The architectural critic's questioning the finances of the place, the subsidies and so on, carries more weight with me than his aesthetic critique. To me, Hudson is much more visually interesting than the redeveloped WTC.

NYguy Mar 15, 2019 3:40 PM

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The architectural critic's questioning the finances of the place, the subsidies and so on, carries more weight with me than his aesthetic critique.

The critics qestioning the finances can go jump into the Hudson as far as I'm concerened. Those idiots don't understand how to get things done. This entire area would still be a vast wasteland of parking lots and empty railyards had things been done whatever way they supposedly think it should have. This project proves that, contrary to what had become popular belief, New York still can and will get big development projects built. And the success of this development (even in these still early stages) has already inspired others as a model of how to do it...

https://therealdeal.com/2019/03/14/a...o-megaproject/

patriotizzy Mar 15, 2019 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tdawg (Post 8506785)
This is my favorite tower at HY so far. Looking forward to using that fancy Equinox when it opens this summer.

My favorite in HY as well. I think this tower would have worked well in downtown Manhattan too!

Bill Ditnow Mar 15, 2019 4:16 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8506869)
The critics qestioning the finances can go jump into the Hudson as far as I'm concerened. Those idiots don't understand how to get things done. This entire area would still be a vast wasteland of parking lots and empty railyards had things been done whatever way they supposedly think it should have. This project proves that, contrary to what had become popular belief, New York still can and will get big development projects built. And the success of this development (even in these still early stages) has already inspired others as a model of how to do it...

https://therealdeal.com/2019/03/14/a...o-megaproject/

The crux of his financial critique is that billions of dollars in subsidies were intended to benefit everyone, which the project supposedly will pay back by increasing New York City’s GDP. He writes that “so far the project is shifting economic development from other neighborhoods to Hudson yards without creating new net growth.”

One obvious objection is that it’s a bit early to make this objection. Even he writes “we’ll see” about the projected rise in GDP. After all, the thing just opened!

I do particularly like the view of 30 from Chelsea. It’s so much more interesting than those super-tall skinnies springing up, which I personally loathe. On the Lower East Side there is a clear view up one of the avenues of distant Chrysler, dominating, as it should, that sector of the skyline. Now that beautiful view has been blighted by a super-tall skinny dwarfing Chrysler. :yuck:

NYguy Mar 16, 2019 7:44 AM

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NYguy Mar 18, 2019 12:39 AM

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colemonkee Mar 19, 2019 5:07 PM

Looks like a lot of the landscaping between this and 30 Hudson is still underway (re: not complete yet). Once that goes in, this will be much more inviting.

NYguy Mar 19, 2019 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 8511009)
Looks like a lot of the landscaping between this and 30 Hudson is still underway (re: not complete yet). Once that goes in, this will be much more inviting.

Yeah, there is still work to be completed, not just on the plaza, but also the towers.



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chris08876 Mar 24, 2019 2:37 AM

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NYguy Apr 4, 2019 2:20 AM

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The tallest residential building to rise to date in Hudson Yards officially launched sales this month.

The 92-story 35 Hudson Yards was developed by Related Companies and Oxford Properties as part of the new west side neighborhood.

Spread across 28-acres, the first phase of development includes more than 10 million s/f of residential, office and retail space. Luxury brand Coach anchors the 10 Hudson Yards office tower that opened in 2016; 15 Hudson Yards opened its apartment space last summer. The Shops opened March 15 along with Mercado Little Spain, a stretch of street-facing bars and restaurants.

30 Hudson Yards, the office tower with the glass observation deck, has opened. Bordered by 30th Street and 33rd Street in the north and south, and Eleventh and Twelfth avenues in the east and west, it will have five more apartment towers, an office building, a school and a third phase of High Line park going right through the middle.
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35 Hudson Yards will blend a 212-key Equinox hotel with 143 apartments located between the 53rd and 92nd floors and a chunk of offices in the middle.
The building will have 22,000 s/f of amenity space, a flagship Equinox club and spa on the fourth and fifth floors and ground-floor retail with tenants such as Soul Cycle.
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David Childs, the Skidmore Owings & Merrill architect behind the buildingʼs design, said the aesthetics were a vital part of the concept. He said much time was spent debating the developers which materials would allow the building both to blend with its Hudson yards neighbors but also stand out as a landmark in its own right.

Recalling his back-and-forth with Ross, Childs said they were fond of the creamy and light limestone look of the Four Seasons Hotel on East 57th Street, but the stone is more suited to Paris and its temperate climate than the harsh winters of New York.

“That’s fine in Paris because it’s a much warmer city,” Childs said of the Four Seasons’ material. “They don’t have the freeze-thaw cycle that is very dangerous for limestone, which absorbs the water and cracks and falls when it expands.”

Ultimately, they found the perfect stone called Jura limestone that was sourced from a Bavarian quarry that was almost as hard as granite but offered the “lovely warm soft color” of limestone, Childs said.
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The apartments themselves range from two-to six-bedroom and start at $5 million. Penthouses have yet to be priced.

Being several hundred feet up in the air, residents can enjoy views across New York City through 11 ft. floor-to-ceiling window.
Neighboring buildings loom large and you get an inverted look at The Vessel, the swirling and zig-zagging public art installation situated in the middle of Hudson Yards.

The tower offers a luxuriously self-sufficient lifestyle for indigenous residents.

Three restaurants will offer residents priority reservations, two on the ground floor and one of the 24th. Stephen Starr, the Philadelphia-based chef, will also be offer delivery to residents, according to Related.

Residents can host their own dinner parties and events in multiple private suites, including a screening room with a private bar and residents lounge with pool table and TV.
For those who want to work where they live, 35 Hudson Yards also has two conference rooms to host business meetings that residents can book. And those looking to play, there’s a golf simulator that replicates the best golf clubs around the world, according to Sherry Tobak, senior vice president at Related.


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