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Truenorth00 May 27, 2020 3:26 PM

Never understood why WestJet never bought Transat. That would have been a good combination. I wonder what's going on with Sunwing. They would seem to be am okay candidate to merge with WestJet.

wave46 May 27, 2020 3:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Truenorth00 (Post 8933925)
Never understood why WestJet never bought Transat. That would have been a good combination. I wonder what's going on with Sunwing. They would seem to be am okay candidate to merge with WestJet.

Westjet was preoccupied with many things on their plate in the last little bit. They had a dispute with their pilots, the 787 acquisition/starting international routes, Swoop and Westjet Link to name a few. Then Onex came along and I suspect AC got rightly concerned as Onex could have scooped AT up along with Westjet, hence the offer.

Had Onex bought both at the same time, maybe it would have worked.

Sunwing isn't really the direction Westjet wants to go (more Europe) and doesn't do much for bolstering its position in Quebec.

whatnext May 27, 2020 4:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8933743)
Pretty sure Onex is regretting their move to buy an airline right about now.....No way in hell will they invest in another.

What Buffett did a few weeks ago should tell you plenty about investing in an airline right about now.

I don't think AC will go ahead with the TS merger either, but not because the government wont approve it. They will. They would be foolish not too. AC will find another way to wiggle itself out of the deal. They can't afford to take on more planes/employees at the moment when the flying public has all but disappeared.

I don't think Francois Legault, if anyone, will let TS tank. The Quebec government made sure BBD survived a few years ago. The'll make sure TS does as well. It might not be as big as it is today, but it'll be here, one way or another.

Basically, even if the deal doesn't happen, federal and provincial governments will most likely help out each and every major airline in this country to ensure their survival. In a weird way, COVID might ensure the TS name lives on.

Onex's timing was aboslutely terrible but who could have foreseen it? I can't imagine why anyone thinks buying Transat would be desirable for him at this point.

hollywoodcory May 27, 2020 6:58 PM

YYC saw a 95% drop in passenger levels in April. Only 67,700 passed through. In 2019, that's what the airport would have seen in a single day. May will be even worse, as April still had a decent domestic schedule, as well as KLM and Alaska.
https://www.yyc.com/News/tabid/91/ar...-in-April.aspx

Only 345 international passengers. Still better than the 0 that will pass through in May. Could even be more than what will pass though in June too. (Just Edelweiss is left in June, and that isn't looking very good either.)

nname May 27, 2020 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8934186)
YYC saw a 95% drop in passenger levels in April. Only 67,700 passed through. In 2019, that's what the airport would have seen in a single day. May will be even worse, as April still had a decent domestic schedule, as well as KLM and Alaska.
https://www.yyc.com/News/tabid/91/ar...-in-April.aspx

Only 345 international passengers. Still better than the 0 that will pass through in May. Could even be more than what will pass though in June too. (Just Edelweiss is left in June, and that isn't looking very good either.)

I'm curious of how they're going to fit the curve for next month's release without having the line goes into the negatives... :cool:

Dominion301 May 28, 2020 3:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lubicon (Post 8933294)
Alitalia is being nationalized again so likely will not disappear.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2020/03/17/...izes-alitalia/

It’s amazing how the Italians have managed to dodge Euro state aid rules for so long. AZ, the airline with 9 lives.

Dominion301 May 28, 2020 3:03 AM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8934186)
YYC saw a 95% drop in passenger levels in April. Only 67,700 passed through. In 2019, that's what the airport would have seen in a single day. May will be even worse, as April still had a decent domestic schedule, as well as KLM and Alaska.
https://www.yyc.com/News/tabid/91/ar...-in-April.aspx

Only 345 international passengers. Still better than the 0 that will pass through in May. Could even be more than what will pass though in June too. (Just Edelweiss is left in June, and that isn't looking very good either.)

Compared with YOW, YYC had a ‘good’ month. Normally YYC handles about 3.5 times the traffic of YOW. In April YYC handled 9.5 times the traffic of YOW.

thenoflyzone May 28, 2020 3:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8934673)
Compared with YOW, YYC had a ‘good’ month. Normally YYC handles about 3.5 times the traffic of YOW. In April YYC handled 9.5 times the traffic of YOW.

I agree. That’s a decent result for YYC. It might even be more than YUL. I guess we’ll know soon enough.

wave46 May 28, 2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8934670)
It’s amazing how the Italians have managed to dodge Euro state aid rules for so long. AZ, the airline with 9 lives.

The Italian government had debt and economic growth problems prior to this whole COVID thing and I imagine that it hasn't improved the situation.

Alitalia may be a victim of the Italian government cuts. Given that it has shrunk from credible flag-carrier to also-ran over the last decade, it might be an easy sacrifice.

Then again, it never fails to disappoint. Maybe some other foolish airline will dump a pile of cash into it.

hollywoodcory May 28, 2020 3:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8934673)
Compared with YOW, YYC had a ‘good’ month. Normally YYC handles about 3.5 times the traffic of YOW. In April YYC handled 9.5 times the traffic of YOW.

I agree the April numbers weren't as bad as they could have been, I was mostly saying that May will likely see a larger drop with a slow recovery from June onward.

Some additional positive news is WestJet's bookings in July appear to be fairly decent (at the moment).

Djeffery May 28, 2020 11:52 PM

Air Canada today said they were resuming service to YXU London starting June 22. No idea the flights or frequencies as yet but it's a good sign for sure, since the airport has been down to 4 flights a week on Encore to YYZ. I imagine AC will be ramping up other regional services in their network at the same time.

Dominion301 May 29, 2020 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 8935520)
Air Canada today said they were resuming service to YXU London starting June 22. No idea the flights or frequencies as yet but it's a good sign for sure, since the airport has been down to 4 flights a week on Encore to YYZ. I imagine AC will be ramping up other regional services in their network at the same time.

5 flights a week to start.

thenoflyzone May 29, 2020 2:17 AM

https://www.flightglobal.com/airline...138573.article

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Air Canada is seeking government approval to add five new destinations in Europe and South America to its air freight network starting 1 June, seeking to take advantage of demand for cargo capacity even as passenger travel demand remains stagnant.

If approved, the Canadian flag carrier would operate air freight deliveries from its hub in Montreal to Bogota, Lima, Amsterdam, Dublin and Madrid.

thenoflyzone May 29, 2020 2:45 AM

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Originally Posted by p_xavier (Post 8933747)
So is AC flying to NRT from YUL or not this Summer? I can't find dates.

It’s bookable from August 1, for now.

Dominion301 May 29, 2020 6:04 PM

Nice article about YWG and some good historic photos of YWG: https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bu...Pos=3#cxrecs_s

Denscity May 30, 2020 7:12 AM

Air Canada has delayed again coming back to YCG till early September.

Coldrsx May 30, 2020 6:04 PM

YEG


https://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ec&oe=5EF8EB47
Colin Hicks on FB's YEG Airport Spotters Group

Djeffery May 30, 2020 7:14 PM

AN-225 in Toronto today.

Video Link

thenoflyzone May 30, 2020 7:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 8937120)
AN-225 in Toronto today.

:tup:

whatnext May 30, 2020 9:40 PM

I had heard AC's cabin crew layoffs are going all the way back in seniority to those who were hired in 1998. That's gobsmacking.


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