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SignalHillHiker Nov 27, 2018 4:20 PM

For that price we could probably just fly anyone who wanted to go on demand.

SignalHillHiker Nov 29, 2018 1:31 AM

From the daily newspaper in Waterford, Ireland. :D Come on, b'ys!

http://i65.tinypic.com/30asyt3.jpg

Denscity Nov 29, 2018 3:37 AM

Looks like both articles are Newfoundland related ;)

casper Nov 29, 2018 5:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wave46 (Post 8391356)
Maybe Air Canada Rouge will take a shot at it? They have A319s, so they have an aircraft type that formerly was used on the YYT-LHR flight.

The biggest concern would be that they would cannibalize their own London flight.

I was told Air Canada only had three A319 aircraft that were equipped with the special equipment required to operate that flight. The radios used in Europe are different that in North America, the aircraft also required special fire suppression equipment in the cargo area and survival equipment. The pilots also required special training for that reason the flight was operated by A320 pilots based out of Winnipeg. Winnipeg had the smallest A320 base and that minimized the extra training required for just one flight a day.

jeddy1989 Nov 29, 2018 12:30 PM

Quote:

More Calls For WestJet To Reconsider Dublin Flight

The Boards of Ireland Newfoundland Connections and the Newfoundland and Labrador Irish Connections are calling on WestJet to reconsider its decision to discontinue its seasonal direct flights between Dublin and St. John’s.

The groups issued a joint news release yesterday. Eamon Murphy of Waterford, Ireland and Kyran Dwyer of St. John’s are adding their voices to those of St. John’s Mayor Danny Breen, Hospitality NL, and the Benevolent Irish Society calling on WestJet to resume direct flights between St. John’s and Dublin next May.

Both say the flight has contributed greatly to their annual Ireland Newfoundland Gathering, a festival that takes place every year and has seen events in almost 70 Irish communities and close to 40 in this province.
http://vocm.com/news/more-calls-for-...dublin-flight/

thenoflyzone Nov 29, 2018 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper (Post 8393582)
I was told Air Canada only had three A319 aircraft that were equipped with the special equipment required to operate that flight. The radios used in Europe are different that in North America, the aircraft also required special fire suppression equipment in the cargo area and survival equipment. The pilots also required special training for that reason the flight was operated by A320 pilots based out of Winnipeg. Winnipeg had the smallest A320 base and that minimized the extra training required for just one flight a day.

It's 2, not 3.

Rouge now has the 2 A319s that used to be ETOPS 120 certified when flying with AC mainline, and used to fly YYT-LHR. Don't know if they still are ETOPS 120, but the HF radios, 8.33 kHz radio spacing and fire suppression systems (all of which are required for ETOPS 120) are most likely still there. So if the ETOPS 120 maintenance schedule and routine is maintained or resumed, technically, they could operate to Europe out of YYT.

The aircraft in question are C-GITP and C-GITR. Even if the frames still have their ETOPS 120 rating, the Rouge crews arent ETOPS trained. So that issue would need to be tackled first.

This being said, it's all about cost/benefit. Is it worth it? Training 50 (or so) pilots on ETOPS, maintaining the ETOPS maintenance schedule on those 2 frames, all for YYT-DUB? I don't think so.

thenoflyzone Nov 29, 2018 8:56 PM

AC ending YUL-YHM on March 30. The on and off saga of this route continues...

First Flair left YHM, and now AC.

YYCguys Nov 29, 2018 9:37 PM

Is that the only AC route out of YHM?

thenoflyzone Nov 29, 2018 9:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 8394375)
Is that the only AC route out of YHM?

Yes. It resumed May 2016 after an 8 year hiatus. Now it got shit canned again...

nname Nov 29, 2018 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8394408)
Yes. It resumed May 2016 after an 8 year hiatus. Now it got shit canned again...

Hmm... it's still in the schedule... guess there will be another schedule update tonight?

Interesting that AC had slashed a lot of these regional routes for the next summer....

YYCguys Nov 30, 2018 7:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8394408)
Yes. It resumed May 2016 after an 8 year hiatus. Now it got shit canned again...

So the only year round carriers in YHM will be Swoop and Westjet. I wonder if Westjet will continue its YYC-YHM run or let it go to Swoop if Swoop adds YYC as a destination in the future.

SignalHillHiker Nov 30, 2018 2:30 PM

Heard my first commercial about the St. John's-Dublin link on the radio. Buddy said: "In 1919, John Alcock and Arthur Brown took off from St. John's and completed the first successful trans Atlantic flight when they landed in Ireland. It took them 16 hours. A century later, it will take you even longer." :haha:

thenoflyzone Nov 30, 2018 2:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 8395032)
Heard my first commercial about the St. John's-Dublin link on the radio. Buddy said: "In 1919, John Alcock and Arthur Brown took off from St. John's and completed the first successful trans Atlantic flight when they landed in Ireland. It took them 16 hours. A century later, it will take you even longer." :haha:

factually incorrect, therefore only semi-funny....;)

thenoflyzone Nov 30, 2018 3:04 PM

A few hours after Icelandair scrapped plans to acquire WOW, in comes Indigo Partners Inc. with a preliminary investment agreement with WOW.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/29/icel...e-wow-air.html

https://markets.businessinsider.com/...ent-1027768928

hollywoodcory Dec 2, 2018 10:33 PM

WS has loaded domestic 787 service on YYC-YYZ from 20FEB19, 1x daily.

thenoflyzone Dec 2, 2018 10:35 PM

The UK and Canada have signed a new bilateral air agreement, insuring airlines will continue to have the same access they have today.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/t...ir-arrangement

10 down, 185 or so to go....

The 10 countries that have concluded a new bilateral with the UK are:

Canada
US
Georgia
Albania
Kosovo
Iceland
Israel
Montenegro
Morocco
Switzerland

Airboy Dec 3, 2018 5:51 PM

Calm Air hires first Inuk Pilot.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north...ilot-1.4928444

DDP Dec 3, 2018 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cage (Post 8391510)
A little bit of context for the Aer Lingus discussion:https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...vice-1.3628618



The problem for YYT is they can't just give money to a foreign airline without getting the Canadian airlines miffed (keeping the thread G rated).

The USA has an essential air service worked into the legislation, but there is no Canadian equivalent.


Local governments give money away to airports in this country to draw in new airlines. Edmonton did it not too long ago with KLM when they were brought on. Federally we do nothing, and have not for a long time (which to me at least is how it should be).

On top of that Airports give out credits all the time for new airlines. Norweigian isn't paying landing fee's at Hamilton for its first summer of operations. (And that flight is to Dublin too I believe).

thenoflyzone Dec 3, 2018 7:22 PM

Don't know if other provinces have something similar, but here in Quebec, the provincial government has an airfare reduction program, to help out the population living in regional cities/communities.

If you are eligible, the government will reimburse anywhere from 30% to 60% of your airfare, up to a maximum of 3000$/year.

https://www.transports.gouv.qc.ca/en...s-aeriens.aspx

lubicon Dec 3, 2018 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8396950)
WS has loaded domestic 787 service on YYC-YYZ from 20FEB19, 1x daily.

No surprise, that's how they introduced the 767 too.
But good news in the sense that there appears to be some certainty in dates for when the first airframe will arrive.


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