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Arrakis Dec 27, 2012 8:55 PM

Let's see. I think the green covered building in the first photo is going to be Golf Town or something like that. Gap or Banana Republic is also supposed to go in that block once the rest is built.

The second building at the other end is going to be Dollarama and Bulk Barn I heard.

The third photo of the wooden structure on the airport side in the Field Power Centre land is going to be a new Harvey's Restaurant.

The building on the Walmart parking lot next to Swiss Chalet is a new TD Bank.

The last one is an extension to the Canadian Blood Services building?

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 5951484)
So, does anyone have any ideas what I photographed? lol


SignalHillHiker Dec 27, 2012 8:57 PM

Jeez, fantastic, thank you! That's where Harvey's is going to be? Excellent. I used to work at a Harvey's, lol... I can't remember if it was Corner Brook or Moncton, though.

JCE Dec 27, 2012 9:07 PM

This website gives more detail and some visuals.
http://thompsoncentres.com/aberdeen-plan.html

SignalHillHiker Dec 27, 2012 9:07 PM

Brilliant, thank you, JCE!

EDIT: Updated my post with info from you and Arrakis! :)

Arrakis Dec 27, 2012 10:10 PM

Ahh thanks JCE. I was looking for this schematic but couldnt find it.

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Originally Posted by JCE (Post 5951512)
This website gives more detail and some visuals.
http://thompsoncentres.com/aberdeen-plan.html


jeddy1989 Dec 27, 2012 10:14 PM

awesome!

you can see how much is going on in the area and it is only including that small corner behind Dominion

here are the "Renderings/photos" for the development

so I guess this is what they will look like :)

http://thompsoncentres.com/Images/golf.jpg

http://thompsoncentres.com/Images/banana.jpg

Arrakis Dec 27, 2012 10:15 PM

Yeah it will be nice to see Harvey's back in St. John's again. I was saddened when they closed their Mount Pearl restaurant years ago on Topsail Rd at the top of Commonwealth. (Currently Vogue Optical)

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 5951502)
Jeez, fantastic, thank you! That's where Harvey's is going to be? Excellent. I used to work at a Harvey's, lol... I can't remember if it was Corner Brook or Moncton, though.


Arrakis Dec 27, 2012 10:16 PM

If only I cared that much for Golf.


Quote:

Originally Posted by jeddy1989 (Post 5951588)
awesome!

you can see how much is going on in the area and it is only including that small corner behind Dominion

here are the "Renderings/photos" for the development

so I guess this is what they will look like :)

http://thompsoncentres.com/Images/golf.jpg

http://thompsoncentres.com/Images/banana.jpg


SignalHillHiker Dec 27, 2012 10:17 PM

I love the fascade on that Banana Republic store. Very Newfoundland-meets-New England.

It'll be right next to the Golf Town building above.

Arrakis Dec 27, 2012 10:19 PM

Hey guys, has anyone heard if Target is going to build onto the Zellers building once Zellers moves out? It's quite small for a Target store. There is a good chunk of land though on the side between Zellers and the Kent store to expand on if needed which would propbably be smart. I would say Target once established in St. John's will end up building a new bigger store in the west end also. Most likely in the new power centre in Southlands area once that gets going. Lets hope.

SignalHillHiker Dec 27, 2012 10:22 PM

Yeah... the west end is definitely where it's at these days. I'm surprised, really, that their first location isn't out there.

Trevor3 Dec 27, 2012 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 5951597)
Hey guys, has anyone heard if Target is going to build onto the Zellers building once Zellers moves out? It's quite small for a Target store. There is a good chunk of land though on the side between Zellers and the Kent store to expand on if needed which would propbably be smart. I would say Target once established in St. John's will end up building a new bigger store in the west end also. Most likely in the new power centre in Southlands area once that gets going. Lets hope.

Yes, Target has purchased that location and the Zellers in Corner Brook as well. Both stores will be closing by the end of March and then undergoing extensive renovations.

It's is difficult to say what size Target stores will be since they have never been in Canada before. When Wal-Mart first came to Canada in 94 they opened a string of stores in Woolco locations that were far below the standards of their American stores. Our Stephenville Wal-Mart is less than 60,000 sq.ft., which I believe makes it the smallest in Canada and one of the few original stores still operating. The Corner Brook Target will be the same size as the current Zellers since there is no way to expand, unless they go up.

Target wants to be in competition with Wal-Mart, eventually they'll have a Target store up against every Wal-Mart in the province. That could take 10-15 years of slow, well conducted expansion.

JCE Dec 27, 2012 10:37 PM

Not sure what the plans are but council did approve the "Target Retail Store Site Plan" in mid November as seen on the development permits list. (on page 11)

http://www.stjohns.ca/sites/default/...026%202012.pdf

Arrakis Dec 28, 2012 4:58 PM

I would say though once they are all opened in Canada, they would start building their own stores much like Walmart did.

My prediction is that once Target is established in Canada, Sears days are numbered Canada and will eventually close. So don't be surprised if you eventually see a Target at Avalon Mall some day that is, if they don't build a store up near Kelsey's Walmart.

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Originally Posted by Trevor3 (Post 5951620)
Yes, Target has purchased that location and the Zellers in Corner Brook as well. Both stores will be closing by the end of March and then undergoing extensive renovations.

It's is difficult to say what size Target stores will be since they have never been in Canada before. When Wal-Mart first came to Canada in 94 they opened a string of stores in Woolco locations that were far below the standards of their American stores. Our Stephenville Wal-Mart is less than 60,000 sq.ft., which I believe makes it the smallest in Canada and one of the few original stores still operating. The Corner Brook Target will be the same size as the current Zellers since there is no way to expand, unless they go up.

Target wants to be in competition with Wal-Mart, eventually they'll have a Target store up against every Wal-Mart in the province. That could take 10-15 years of slow, well conducted expansion.


CaspinK Dec 31, 2012 9:22 PM

Showcase
 
With Showcase now gone, it's only a matter of time until Jump+ opens up.

Arrakis Jan 2, 2013 1:34 PM

I find it hard to believe that Showcase thinks it's going to do better business at the Village Mall rather than the Avalon Mall. I am sure the rent is cheaper at the Village but really, do you think they will are going to last by doing this move. Showcase already closed once at the Village Mall several years ago and that's when they had major anchor tenants like Sears and Walmart.
I think Jump+ will need a bit more space than what Showcase is vacating.
I wonder if Jump+ will go in the Athlete's World space when that closes?

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Originally Posted by CaspinK (Post 5954800)
With Showcase now gone, it's only a matter of time until Jump+ opens up.


statbass Jan 2, 2013 1:50 PM

Theatres Coming Soon
 
Source: VOCM
Date: Jan 2, 2013
Author: Unknown

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ust two years ago, it was a large farm on Torbay Road. Now, the site will be home to retail giants. Empire Theatres was the first company to announce they would be building an 8-screen theatre complex in Field Power Centre off Torbay Road, not far from Stavanger Drive. Now, the framework for Harvey's Restaurant is near completion, and the Canadian fast-food company is accepting applications. Ward Councillor Danny Breen says there is no conclusive date yet, but Empire Theatres has said that the complex would be opening in 2013...
http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?...29580&latest=1

Townie709 Jan 2, 2013 2:15 PM

But they're not even started construction of the theatres, are they? How can they possibly be opening later this year if they aren't even started?? :sly:

I'll believe it when I see it!

SignalHillHiker Jan 2, 2013 2:17 PM

I can just picture Townie driving around to all of our various construction sites with a loudspeaker saying, "Come on, guys, hurry up! Faster!"

It'd be awesome. :D

Townie709 Jan 2, 2013 2:21 PM

Haha, well somebody's got to crack the whip, why not me?? That's funny because that is something I can totally see myself doing :haha:

statbass Jan 7, 2013 3:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 5955997)
I find it hard to believe that Showcase thinks it's going to do better business at the Village Mall rather than the Avalon Mall. I am sure the rent is cheaper at the Village but really, do you think they will are going to last by doing this move. Showcase already closed once at the Village Mall several years ago and that's when they had major anchor tenants like Sears and Walmart.
I think Jump+ will need a bit more space than what Showcase is vacating.
I wonder if Jump+ will go in the Athlete's World space when that closes?

Apparently Jump+ stores are relatively small. I was looking at their website a couple of days ago and judging from the pics of their new Fredericton and Moncton locations this space would probably suffice.

PoscStudent Jan 7, 2013 4:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 5955997)
I find it hard to believe that Showcase thinks it's going to do better business at the Village Mall rather than the Avalon Mall. I am sure the rent is cheaper at the Village but really, do you think they will are going to last by doing this move. Showcase already closed once at the Village Mall several years ago and that's when they had major anchor tenants like Sears and Walmart.
I think Jump+ will need a bit more space than what Showcase is vacating.
I wonder if Jump+ will go in the Athlete's World space when that closes?

Showcase never seemed to do much business anyways.

J_Murphy Jan 7, 2013 4:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoscStudent (Post 5962642)
Showcase never seemed to do much business anyways.

I think most of people in there just wanted to play with the mostly ridiculous items they saw on T.V., with no intention of actually buying them.

Arrakis Jan 7, 2013 7:17 PM

Totally true. I drop in there from time to time when in the mall. I just wanna see the item as seen on tv in person and usually never have any intention of purchasing anything from there. I would bet TV Showcase will be gone from the Village Mall within the year.


Quote:

Originally Posted by J_Murphy (Post 5962654)
I think most of people in there just wanted to play with the mostly ridiculous items they saw on T.V., with no intention of actually buying them.


Arrakis Jan 7, 2013 7:18 PM

Sounds cool then. I would rather see a nice little Apple Store instead but I guess this is as close as we are gonna get for now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by statbass (Post 5962628)
Apparently Jump+ stores are relatively small. I was looking at their website a couple of days ago and judging from the pics of their new Fredericton and Moncton locations this space would probably suffice.


Arrakis Jan 7, 2013 8:32 PM

Just heard that as of January 26th, the Sony Store in the Avalon Mall will be closing.

jeddy1989 Jan 7, 2013 9:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 5963077)
Just heard that as of January 26th, the Sony Store in the Avalon Mall will be closing.

huh? that's a bit regressive isn't it?? :S you can get the products in many other places but I mean to close their actual store .. I wonder what will gobble up the spot?

Marty_Mcfly Jan 7, 2013 9:25 PM

Oh no. That was a solid store in the mall. Always a great place to stop and stare if you were stuck in the mall while the game was on :P

SpongeG Jan 7, 2013 9:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 5952222)
I would say though once they are all opened in Canada, they would start building their own stores much like Walmart did.

My prediction is that once Target is established in Canada, Sears days are numbered Canada and will eventually close. So don't be surprised if you eventually see a Target at Avalon Mall some day that is, if they don't build a store up near Kelsey's Walmart.

most targets i have been to are inside malls, other than "urban" downtown locations i haven't been to that many stand alone stores

Arrakis Jan 7, 2013 10:09 PM

Maybe that was the problem. Too many people looking and not buying. They prob browse and then go to Costco or Best Buy to purchase. Too bad, it was a classy store.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly (Post 5963162)
Oh no. That was a solid store in the mall. Always a great place to stop and stare if you were stuck in the mall while the game was on :P


SpongeG Jan 7, 2013 10:25 PM

sony is shutting down lots of its stores seems they want to shift focus away from their retail - they started shutting down stores in 2011

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The closure is not likely to be Sony's last, based on Sony's new CEO Kazuo Hiraio statement on April 12th, when he announced the company would be shedding 10,000 employees in an aggressive move to turn around the ailing tech giant's fortunes. The announcement was light on specifics, but there is little doubt that Sony Style stores falling below the profitability are no longer going to be viewed as a mere marketing tool for the company.
Quote:

Sony is moving to focus it's business efforts on digital imaging, the gaming industry and mobile and will invest more in these areas moving forward. But Sony is without it's own software platform, and increasing pressure from a weak dollar and strong yen make it hard to see Sony delivering a growth story against long established players like Apple and a well positioned Samsung. Without Sony having it's own OS in which to deliver a value proposition price becomes king, and that is a space Sony has never cared to play in, and when they have, it has seen little success.
http://www.t-gaap.com/2012/4/20/sony...retail-success

Townie709 Jan 7, 2013 10:41 PM

Aw..... I liked the Sony store! That's too bad. Oh well, it would be such a perfect location for an apple store!! (We can dream!)

statbass Jan 8, 2013 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 5963283)
sony is shutting down lots of its stores seems they want to shift focus away from their retail - they started shutting down stores in 2011





http://www.t-gaap.com/2012/4/20/sony...retail-success

Yeah, I kinda thought this was more than just a Sony store shutting down here in SJ; thanks for the info!

PoscStudent Jan 8, 2013 1:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 5963077)
Just heard that as of January 26th, the Sony Store in the Avalon Mall will be closing.

I'm actually happy to hear this, can't wait to see what goes there.

statbass Jan 8, 2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoscStudent (Post 5963671)
I'm actually happy to hear this, can't wait to see what goes there.

Ditto - I don't think I've ever bought anything at that store.

J_Murphy Jan 8, 2013 1:03 PM

On the topic of the Avalon Mall, there is now a Melanie Lyne store on the bottom level next to sears. Don't know much about this store other than it is another womens fashion store, but I do recall seeing it in other cities.

jeddy1989 Jan 8, 2013 5:09 PM

here's that map of the feild power centre

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...96061215_n.jpg

this is what was released for the southlands just for comparison:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.n...99034038_n.jpg

how can two of the same type of developments be allowed to be so different in the same city? why doesn't council try to encourage them to make "retail villages" and more pedestrian friendly orientations to the stavanger drive area?

NOTE: there are about 20 buildings in the Feild power centre (all shown stages) and about 35 locations in the southlands/ glencrest development in STAGE 1.

(This will be posted in the east end thread as well)

I wonder what stores will be opening in the 35 retail location in the first phase of the Southlands/ Glencrest development?

There is already quite a bit near by on the other side of the highway in Mount Pearl!.. possibly many new stores? (oh and of course a new Empire theatres)

SignalHillHiker Jan 8, 2013 5:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeddy1989 (Post 5964428)
how can two of the same type of developments be allowed to be so different in the same city?

Because reasons.

jeddy1989 Jan 8, 2013 5:16 PM

it's a lot of stores being built in the near future :) I feel like the retail in Kelsey didnt get a fair kick at the can .. not near as much up there .. and now they are just building a bunch of office buildings

jeddy1989 Jan 8, 2013 6:13 PM

So stores that will not be likely to open in the Southlands/ Glencrest development are the following: (they are located just across the highway on the Mount Pearl side

- Quiznos
- Canadian Tire
- Kent
- Wal Mart
- Staples
- Dominion
- the source
- Pizza Delight
- Marks Work wearhouse
- Reitmans
- Halmark
- Easyhome
- Rogers
- Bulk Barn
- Smithy's
- Sobeys
- A&W
- Wendys



They will probably put in a boston Pizza and Swiss Chalet is already rumoured to go in Mount Pearl.. maybe a montanas?

I do not know whic Grocry store that will be as indicated in the plan .. also the hardware, maybe a home depot? seems a bit small though I dont know?

christopher_chafe Jan 8, 2013 6:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeddy1989 (Post 5964545)
So stores that will not be likely to open in the Southlands/ Glencrest development are the following: (they are located just across the highway on the Mount Pearl side

- Quiznos
- Canadian Tire
- Kent
- Wal Mart
- Staples
- Dominion
- the source
- Pizza Delight
- Marks Work wearhouse
- Reitmans
- Halmark
- Easyhome
- Rogers
- Bulk Barn
- Smithy's
- Sobeys
- A&W
- Wendys



They will probably put in a boston Pizza and Swiss Chalet is already rumoured to go in Mount Pearl.. maybe a montanas?

I do not know whic Grocry store that will be as indicated in the plan .. also the hardware, maybe a home depot? seems a bit small though I dont know?

Hardware is rumored to be Lowes. As for Grocery Store really hard to say.

PoscStudent Jan 8, 2013 6:22 PM

Here's the map for Dartmouth Crossing. What's great about there is they have the "big box stores" (Walmart, Home Depot, Canadian Tire and a few others) in one area, with Costco being in a separate area. Then they have smaller retail stores, mainly clothing, in another area with three restaurants being onside of an Empire Theatres. When I was there I spent my time in the area of the clothing stores and didn't even realize that Walmart and Canadian Tire was only hundreds of feet away, and I was there for a day and a half.

The clothing stores area is compact, pedestrian friendly, and the buildings look much nicer then Stavanger Drive.

http://www.dartmouthcrossing.com/sto...on-and-map.php

christopher_chafe Jan 8, 2013 6:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoscStudent (Post 5964556)
Here's the map for Dartmouth Crossing. What's great about there is they have the "big box stores" (Walmart, Home Depot, Canadian Tire and a few others) in one area, with Costco being in a separate area. Then they have smaller retail stores, mainly clothing, in another area with three restaurants being onside of an Empire Theatres. When I was there I spent my time in the area of the clothing stores and didn't even realize that Walmart and Canadian Tire was only hundreds of feet away, and I was there for a day and a half.

The clothing stores area is compact, pedestrian friendly, and the buildings look much nicer then Stavanger Drive.

http://www.dartmouthcrossing.com/sto...on-and-map.php


I truly hope that is how Dannyland will look

jeddy1989 Jan 8, 2013 6:40 PM

I wonder how large the Glencrest commercial development will be. Will it be larger than Dartmouth Crossing? I though I read somewhere that it will be?

christopher_chafe Jan 8, 2013 6:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeddy1989 (Post 5964586)
I wonder how large the Glencrest commercial development will be. Will it be larger than Dartmouth Crossing? I though I read somewhere that it will be?

Also aren't there going to me multiple phases?

Arrakis Jan 8, 2013 7:25 PM

I heard that the supermarket in the new Soundlands/Glencrest development is going to be Coleman's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by christopher_chafe (Post 5964550)
Hardware is rumored to be Lowes. As for Grocery Store really hard to say.


christopher_chafe Jan 8, 2013 7:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 5964673)
I heard that the supermarket in the new Soundlands/Glencrest development is going to be Coleman's.


Would make sense....though wasn't Coleman's supposed to go closer to the intersection at Ruby Line?

PoscStudent Jan 8, 2013 8:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeddy1989 (Post 5964586)
I wonder how large the Glencrest commercial development will be. Will it be larger than Dartmouth Crossing? I though I read somewhere that it will be?

It's suppose to be the biggest development even proposed for Atlantic Canada I believe.

Robg Jan 8, 2013 9:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 5964673)
I heard that the supermarket in the new Soundlands/Glencrest development is going to be Coleman's.

Yes its a Coleman's, one of the managers was telling me it will have a liquorstore and all in it.

Trevor3 Jan 8, 2013 9:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robg (Post 5964885)
Yes its a Coleman's, one of the managers was telling me it will have a liquorstore and all in it.

Sounds much like "Coleman's at the Gardens" in Corner Brook. It has a liquor store, bakery, deli, sushi bar, lunch counter etc... Really nice spot actually.


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