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MonkeyRonin Nov 12, 2019 1:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8742273)
Currently there is on the part of many Canadians an eagerness and curiosity about sports that are "not Canadian", so in light of this fact I would expect rugby to be ascendant for the next little while.


There's no tradition of major league rugby in Canada, but it's long been a popular high school sport in many parts of the country. So it's not exactly "foreign" either.

VANRIDERFAN Nov 12, 2019 1:35 AM

Don used to be must see TV for me back in the day. But when the Jets left Winnipeg for Phoenix my interest in everything NHL waned. By the time the Jets came back to Winnipeg, I returned to watching the games and the games only. I don't care one whit what any talking heads of any sports have to say, its all nonsense.

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 2:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin (Post 8745698)
There's no tradition of major league rugby in Canada, but it's long been a popular high school sport in many parts of the country. So it's not exactly "foreign" either.

I know but rugby is still fringe enough to appeal to the globalist fetish in a big way.

Hackslack Nov 12, 2019 2:09 PM

Is Cherry’s segment on HNIC between periods actually live, or is it taped before? If taped before, everyone at Sportsnet who saw the tape beforehand should be fired.

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 2:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackslack (Post 8745990)
Is Cherry’s segment on HNIC between periods actually live, or is it taped before? If taped before, everyone at Sportsnet who saw the tape beforehand should be fired.

Pretty sure it's live. Doesn't he primarily comment on the period that was just played?

VANRIDERFAN Nov 12, 2019 2:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8745994)
Pretty sure it's live. Doesn't he primarily comment on the period that was just played?

AFAIK yes. Especially since it is always the Leafs.

whatnext Nov 12, 2019 2:52 PM

Things must be different in Cherry’s Toronto - here in Vancouver the ones selling poppies were cadets and they were overwhelmingly Asian.

On the other hand, at least he didn’t make an insincere apology he didn’t believe in. Too many of those going around.

esquire Nov 12, 2019 3:08 PM

It's clear that he was headed on this collision course for some time. Too bad Cherry didn't retire before the inevitable happened.

For what it's worth I have always enjoyed his segments, sort of on the same level that I enjoyed watching Randy "Macho Man" Savage give interviews back in the day... because they were highly entertaining and unpredictable, not because they were a source of refined, erudite commentary.

Personally I'd cut the guy some slack. He's 85, I don't know how many 85 year olds are totally in tune with the times. If anyone is to blame, blame Sportsnet for giving him a platform so they could keep profiting from the viewership he delivered. Of course, once keeping him was no longer convenient, boom, it was over.

TorontoDrew Nov 12, 2019 5:04 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8746040)

Personally I'd cut the guy some slack. He's 85, I don't know how many 85 year olds are totally in tune with the times. If anyone is to blame, blame Sportsnet for giving him a platform so they could keep profiting from the viewership he delivered..

:cheers:

UrbanClimate Nov 12, 2019 6:05 PM

CFL TV ratings: Bombers, Stamps semi-final showdown outdraws MLS Cup

"The Canadian Football League scored a win over Major League Soccer.

Winnipeg and Calgary produced the first one million-plus television rating of the 2019 season in Sunday’s West Semi-Final. It was a highly anticipated dual that drew more eye balls in Canada than the MLS Cup played at 3 p.m. ET on Sunday. The Seattle Sounders beat Toronto FC 3-1 to win the rubber finals rubber match between the two clubs. 1.5 million tuned in for the 2016 match and 1.3 million during TFC’s first league championship in 2017. TFC plays in our country’s largest market, but the average audience dropped to 747,600 for the third MLS Cup in Toronto franchise history.

The CFL has experienced a similar downward trend for their Division Semi-Finals, posting over one million in 2017, followed by 988,900 in 2018 and 863,850. That’s a loss creeping towards 200,000 viewers during a three-year sample size. Although, it’s not declining at the same rate as MLS soccer.

Cord-cutters are a large reason why TV numbers are waning in all sorts of genres. There are more people accessing CFL games via TSN’s streaming service and various other unmeasured streams. Overall when compared to MLS, the CFL has to be happy the ratings are falling less steeply and the Saskatchewan Roughriders were not even playing.

For those curious there were a number of other sports for fanatics to take in on Sunday. The Minnesota Vikings took on the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday Night Football checking in at 725,300, the Toronto Maple Leafs at the Chicago Blackhawks for Rogers Hometown Hockey 681,000, and the Toronto Raptors at the Los Angeles Lakers 452,000."

Semi-Final Sunday TV ratings 2019:

Edmonton at Montreal — 626,900
Winnipeg at Calgary — 1,100,800

Average: 863,850

2018

B.C. at Hamilton — 697,800
Winnipeg at Saskatchewan — 1,280,000

Average: 988,900

2017

Saskatchewan at Ottawa — 975,000
Edmonton at Winnipeg — 1,128,000

Average: 1,051,500

https://3downnation.com/2019/11/12/c...draws-mls-cup/

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 6:22 PM

You can add 400,000 from RDS to the Edmonton-Montreal game's ratings.

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 6:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanClimate (Post 8746291)

. The Seattle Sounders beat Toronto FC 3-1 to win the rubber finals rubber match between the two clubs.

What exactly is a "rubber finals rubber match"?

JHikka Nov 12, 2019 6:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8746319)
What exactly is a "rubber finals rubber match"?

It's 3down writing.

TSN really tried to hype up the Trilogy aspect of Seattle/Toronto meeting for the third time in four years but it seemed very flat.

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8746322)
It's 3down writing.

TSN really tried to hype up the Trilogy aspect of Seattle/Toronto meeting for the third time in four years but it seemed very flat.

Over my head then.

esquire Nov 12, 2019 7:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8746314)
You can add 400,000 from RDS to the Edmonton-Montreal game's ratings.

So both CFL semifinals drew over a million viewers each. That's not bad.

I felt like I heard way less about the MLS Cup this year than for Toronto's past appearances. Other than TSN's commercials and a couple of preview articles in the local paper, I didn't really see any coverage although I'm obviously far from Toronto's soccer scene.

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8746392)
So both CFL semifinals drew over a million viewers each. That's not bad.

I felt like I heard way less about the MLS Cup this year than for Toronto's past appearances. Other than TSN's commercials and a couple of preview articles in the local paper, I didn't really see any coverage although I'm obviously far from Toronto's soccer scene.

Was the MLS Cup on TSN1 or TSN2? Or were the CFL games on TSN1?

Also, it's possible that at least some Canadian viewers - say, 50,000? - watched the MLS Cup on the mainstream US network that was carrying it (ABC?).

thurmas Nov 12, 2019 7:57 PM

those CFL numbers are very healthy considering how many people have cut the cord on cable and how many people now stream the games than watch on tv. I have several American friends in Charlotte and Atlanta who watch some CFL by streaming it.

esquire Nov 12, 2019 7:59 PM

It would be interesting to know what kind of numbers the CFL got on ESPN2. I'm expecting it wouldn't be much given that it's a Sunday during NFL season, but still.

thurmas Nov 12, 2019 8:03 PM

I would like to see the CFL post their streaming numbers more often

JHikka Nov 12, 2019 8:20 PM

MLS Cups 2016 and 2017 were both the first Saturday of December, whereas MLS Cup 2019 was the second Sunday of November. Change of schedule and a worse time slot definitely played a factor in general viewing figures, but it also comes down to TFC being less compelling this time around.

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8746392)
I felt like I heard way less about the MLS Cup this year than for Toronto's past appearances. Other than TSN's commercials and a couple of preview articles in the local paper, I didn't really see any coverage although I'm obviously far from Toronto's soccer scene.

Definitely much less hype in 2019 than in 16 or 17. 16 obviously had hype because it was their first appearance and 17 because it was the best season an MLS team had ever had (and arguably the best team still). This year's team was much weaker and their run to the final was pretty unlikely.

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8746478)
MLS Cups 2016 and 2017 were both the first Saturday of December, whereas MLS Cup 2019 was the second Sunday of November. Change of schedule and a worse time slot definitely played a factor in general viewing figures.


Definitely much less hype in 2019 than in 16 or 17. 16 obviously had hype because it was their first appearance and 17 because it was the best season an MLS team had ever had (and arguably the best team still). This year's team was much weaker and their run to the final was pretty unlikely.

Still wondering which league TSN chose to highlight on its main network Sunday? MLS or CFL?

thurmas Nov 12, 2019 8:23 PM

I get all 5 TSN's with Bell MTS I don't know which one is even the main network anymore.

JHikka Nov 12, 2019 8:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8746479)
Still wondering which league TSN chose to highlight on its main network Sunday? MLS or CFL?

CFL was on TSN1 and TSN5. TFC were on TSN4. I don't really think there's a main TSN anymore for anyone beyond the most basic of cable setups.

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 8:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8746482)
CFL was on TSN1 and TSN5. TFC were on TSN4. I don't really think there's a main TSN anymore for anyone beyond the most basic of cable setups.

I guess that's truer and truer.

Though a case can be made that the main network is the first one you hit when channel surfing upwards.

Many sports bars and restaurants for example will have their TVs tuned to that channel as a default, and only move to the other ones if there is something that is more of interest to their clientele on there.

esquire Nov 12, 2019 8:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8746505)
I guess that's truer and truer.

Though a case can be made that the main network is the first one you hit when channel surfing upwards.

Many sports bars and restaurants for example will have their TVs tuned to that channel as a default, and only move to the other ones if there is something that is more of interest to their clientele on there.

To thurmas' point, the cable providers in Manitoba include all 5 TSNs in their basic packages. To me, TSN3 is the one to have since it has regional Jets broadcasts. Someone in Quebec might be more interested in TSN5 which IIRC has the Habs regional broadcasts.

It's more of a regional assortment as compared to the US where ESPN is the big grand-daddy channel while ESPN2, ESPN News and all of the various other ESPN offshoots are secondary in nature.

JHikka Nov 12, 2019 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8746505)
Though a case can be made that the main network is the first one you hit when channel surfing upwards.

This simply isn't the case any more because, unless i'm mistaken, nobody is surfing upwards through hundreds of channels. Usually people know where their favourite channels are (whether it's channel 24, 240, or 624, or whatever). Only people with the old ~50ish channel setup are manually surfing through channels, otherwise you can just use the built-in guide HUD that comes with your advanced cable setup to find what you're looking for, either manually or by searching for channel/program.

Acajack Nov 12, 2019 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8746527)
This simply isn't the case any more because, unless i'm mistaken, nobody is surfing upwards through hundreds of channels. Usually people know where their favourite channels are (whether it's channel 24, 240, or 624, or whatever). Only people with the old ~50ish channel setup are manually surfing through channels, otherwise you can just use the built-in guide HUD that comes with your advanced cable setup to find what you're looking for, either manually or by searching for channel/program.

I guess.

Maybe I am weird but to me the channel that is labelled "1" is still assume the one with the most high-profile marquee programming with cross-Canada appeal. (Or at least the programming they want us to latch on to the most for reasons X Y and Z.)

TimB09 Nov 12, 2019 9:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thurmas (Post 8746460)
I would like to see the CFL post their streaming numbers more often

Me too. That's how I watch the games now.

Djeffery Nov 12, 2019 10:06 PM

For years and years, TSN was channel 400 on almost any system I had (1400 in HD). 400 (1400) on Bell Fibe at least is TSN 4. They are in order, 4, 1, 2, 3, 5 on Fibe. I always consider 1400 the main TSN channel because that's where the Leafs and Raptors usually are, and TSN does stand for Toronto Sports Network, so I'm told.

kel Nov 12, 2019 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 8746589)
For years and years, TSN was channel 400 on almost any system I had (1400 in HD). 400 (1400) on Bell Fibe at least is TSN 4. They are in order, 4, 1, 2, 3, 5 on Fibe. I always consider 1400 the main TSN channel because that's where the Leafs and Raptors usually are, and TSN does stand for Toronto Sports Network, so I'm told.

Stands for The Sports Network

MacLac Nov 12, 2019 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kel (Post 8746607)
Stands for The Sports Network

Wouldn't appear that way to someone who has never heard of it...(T) is more like (T)oronto Sports Network. Someone from Mars watching would think that the Leafs are the only Team, of any sport on the planet. Today for example, the first five stories in the "NHL" link are Leafs, ie, Marner is hurt, Matthews is a P*ssy, Hutch got waived, Tavares is pouting....etc. etc.

EpicPonyTime Nov 12, 2019 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8746478)
MLS Cups 2016 and 2017 were both the first Saturday of December, whereas MLS Cup 2019 was the second Sunday of November. Change of schedule and a worse time slot definitely played a factor in general viewing figures, but it also comes down to TFC being less compelling this time around.

I was really surprised at how early the MLS Cup was on, and I imagine it played a major role in the lower ratings. I wonder why they put it on so early?

JHikka Nov 12, 2019 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EpicPonyTime (Post 8746678)
I was really surprised at how early the MLS Cup was on, and I imagine it played a major role in the lower ratings. I wonder why they put it on so early?

MLS changed up their playoff format because the two-legged draws were a bit lengthy and pointless. There were a lot of complaints over the length of playoffs and having it be split up by an international break, so they shortened the rounds which shortens the playoffs as a whole. I like the earlier finish IMO, season is much too long if it's running from March-December.

EpicPonyTime Nov 12, 2019 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8746683)
MLS changed up their playoff format because the two-legged draws were a bit lengthy and pointless. There were a lot of complaints over the length of playoffs and having it be split up by an international break, so they shortened the rounds which shortens the playoffs as a whole. I like the earlier finish IMO, season is much too long if it's running from March-December.

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was referring to the fact the game was on at 3PM in Toronto. Despite being on a weekend, I don't believe that as many casual fans would be interested in spending a major chunk of their limited daytime inside watching sports.

I agree that shortening the playoffs/overall season is a good idea for MLS.

JHikka Nov 12, 2019 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EpicPonyTime (Post 8746692)
Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was referring to the fact the game was on at 3PM in Toronto. Despite being on a weekend, I don't believe that as many casual fans would be interested in spending a major chunk of their limited daytime inside watching sports.

Haven't read too much on it but i'm sure it has to do with TV and hosting in Seattle. TV and gameday turned out really, really good in Seattle so i'm guessing there was some thought into the start time.

EpicPonyTime Nov 13, 2019 1:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8746700)
Haven't read too much on it but i'm sure it has to do with TV and hosting in Seattle. TV and gameday turned out really, really good in Seattle so i'm guessing there was some thought into the start time.

It would have been a 12PM kickoff in Seattle which still seems really early. I assume that they did it that early because it avoided competition with the NFL. I imagine they did their research and were confident going early would lose less viewers than going up against football in the States.

Djeffery Nov 13, 2019 2:46 AM

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Originally Posted by EpicPonyTime (Post 8746791)
It would have been a 12PM kickoff in Seattle which still seems really early. I assume that they did it that early because it avoided competition with the NFL. I imagine they did their research and were confident going early would lose less viewers than going up against football in the States.

3PM eastern is right in the middle of the busiest time of day for football. There isn't really a worse time to do it if avoiding competition with NFL is the idea.

Acajack Nov 13, 2019 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hackslack (Post 8745990)
Is Cherry’s segment on HNIC between periods actually live, or is it taped before? If taped before, everyone at Sportsnet who saw the tape beforehand should be fired.

The discussion on other boards is actually saying that the segment is live on the main game's broadcast, taped and then rebroadcast during intermissions of other games in the similar time slot but that obviously don't all arrive at the intermission simultaneously.

So I guess the answer is that people at Sportsnet did watch it and decided to air the recorded version of it during several other broadcasts that evening.

elly63 Nov 14, 2019 12:14 AM

Interesting to see the Quebec breakdown with and without the Als, IMO both are very good numbers

https://i.imgur.com/3wwdmzp.png

LakeLocker Nov 14, 2019 1:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jonny24 (Post 8742338)
I think that its more likely that we would see some signifigant changes to how the game is played rather than anything dying off. That's exactly what drove a lot of the changes to football over 100 years ago. Too many people were getting hurt or dying so they changed rules, added pads, etc. Ironically it may be back towards a rugby style of play. Not that it doesn't have it's own concussion problems but it seems to be a a level less than that of football.

This needs to happen sooner than latter. The CFL is flat out crazy for delaying the inevitable. They don't have the money that the NFL has. It is gonna destroy the brand if they are seen as simply playing follow the leader. And it'd be a great way for the league to out perform the NFL. The XFL is launching on the premise on creating faster paced more athletic gaming. The CFL should be known as an inovator it'd help sell the game to the young globalist types living in the east.

LakeLocker Nov 14, 2019 1:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8742273)
Currently there is on the part of many Canadians an eagerness and curiosity about sports that are "not Canadian", so in light of this fact I would expect rugby to be ascendant for the next little while.

But as esquire says it's got a long way to go before it even reaches the mainstream level that a sport like soccer has attained.

And gridiron football (Canadian or American, take your pick) is on another level beyond that.

I think it's a failure of the big 3.

They've been bloated entities relying on television money.

This made sense when people watched tv and television lockouts meant it was very hard to watch other sports and hard to watch teams in other markets.

With globalized sports media it seems entirely possible that leagues might end up being based on offering live games up for free and relying on gate revenue.

In which case the bloated MLB/NBA/NHL will likely have major issues getting audience attention.


In I'm stuck in going to games that are basically minor leagues I'd rather do it in a league that is the best in Canada than a league that is one of the many feeders leagues for the big american franchises.

LakeLocker Nov 14, 2019 1:58 AM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8746040)
Personally I'd cut the guy some slack. He's 85, I don't know how many 85 year olds are totally in tune with the times. If anyone is to blame, blame Sportsnet for giving him a platform so they could keep profiting from the viewership he delivered. Of course, once keeping him was no longer convenient, boom, it was over.

That's not how the "I'm tellin" culture works.

It is a kind of punching down that relies on moral relativism. It isn't about who is right or wrong it is about who is quickest at pouncing on folk that are deviating from the cutting edge of condoned behavior.

Lack of intelligence, poor language skills, age etc are all signs one is not capable of maintaining the upper hand.

LakeLocker Nov 14, 2019 2:00 AM

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Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 8746026)
Things must be different in Cherry’s Toronto - here in Vancouver the ones selling poppies were cadets and they were overwhelmingly Asian.

On the other hand, at least he didn’t make an insincere apology he didn’t believe in. Too many of those going around.

So you assumed they weren't born here because they are Asian? And he's the racist?

jonny24 Nov 14, 2019 3:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeLocker (Post 8747993)
This needs to happen sooner than latter. The CFL is flat out crazy for delaying the inevitable. They don't have the money that the NFL has. It is gonna destroy the brand if they are seen as simply playing follow the leader. And it'd be a great way for the league to out perform the NFL. The XFL is launching on the premise on creating faster paced more athletic gaming. The CFL should be known as an inovator it'd help sell the game to the young globalist types living in the east.

I agree with all of that.

Actually, I've long thought that, even without the concussion/player safety issues, Canadian Football should evolve in its own way away from the American version. It would take a whole-game approach, CFL/Football Canada/U sports adopting changes. A greater uniqueness would mean that Canadians growing up playing our version would be the most skilled at it, reducing the influence of Americans. Same with coaching, etc. The less similar we are to AF then the fewer comparisons can be made and less "second rate" stigma.

I don't know how this would go over with the majority of football fans though. I was a fan of rugby before football, and know and love the history of how we got here from there. I feel like that wouldn't apply to the vast majority though. But if concussions force that evolution anyway... might was well go our own way. :shrug:

Hackslack Nov 14, 2019 3:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeLocker (Post 8748016)
So you assumed they weren't born here because they are Asian? And he's the racist?

In the words of prime minister Justin Trudeau "people experience things differently".. so in this case, people can use this "out card" to argue that, no, that was not racist, because this particular person experienced things different

SaskScraper Nov 14, 2019 6:08 PM

+6C looking like a good weather forecast for Regina for the Western CFL Final at New Mosaic Stadium, Bombers visiting against The Riders, the Western Division top team, this Sunday...

I just came across a discussion on a subforum of why TSN uses old aerial footage of Regina, footage like from half a decade ago, when TSN does CFL broadcasts from Regina.
Thought some of you might find this entertaining.:P

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Originally Posted by UrbanClimate (Post 8731160)
Last night's TV broadcast of the Heritage Classic had some excellent aerial shots of the stadium, like this one. I'm curious why we dont get these same shots for TSN broadcasts of CFL games at Mosaic (TSN gives aerial views of stadiums for games in all other CFL cities)?

https://i.imgur.com/aX4DFY0.jpg?4
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...itage-classic/

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Originally Posted by UrbanClimate (Post 8737438)
My wish came partly true, with some footage of downtown Regina to open the Sask-Edmonton TSN broadcast yesterday. Maybe for the West Final we'll see the stadium from above.

https://i.imgur.com/OLSt5sK.jpg?1
https://www.cfl.ca/games/2639/edmont...ders/#/preview

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 8737734)
They would have done a lot of shooting for the Grey Cup in 2013, aaaaand looking more closely at the pic, the old stadium is at the left 2/3 - 3/4 of the way up. :haha:

https://i.imgur.com/3BA2Ehi.png
https://www.cfl.ca/games/2639/edmont...ders/#/preview

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Originally Posted by Doug123 (Post 8744351)
The aerial footage shown during the NHL Heritage Classic was shot by the company I work for, Java Post Productions: www.JavaPost.ca We also shot aerial stills for the NHL which are available through Getty Images.

We have shot several Rider games at Mosaic Stadium, primarily gathering footage for the Riders to use in promotional campaigns. During the 2018 season we did supply the Riders with a live HD feed and shots were shown on the SaskTel MaxTron for the in-stadium crowd.

We will be shooting aerial footage for TSN during the upcoming Western Division Final on November 17th.


TorontoDrew Nov 14, 2019 7:42 PM

Cool Regina shot!

LakeLocker Nov 14, 2019 9:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jonny24 (Post 8748347)
I agree with all of that.

Actually, I've long thought that, even without the concussion/player safety issues, Canadian Football should evolve in its own way away from the American version. It would take a whole-game approach, CFL/Football Canada/U sports adopting changes. A greater uniqueness would mean that Canadians growing up playing our version would be the most skilled at it, reducing the influence of Americans. Same with coaching, etc. The less similar we are to AF then the fewer comparisons can be made and less "second rate" stigma.

I don't know how this would go over with the majority of football fans though. I was a fan of rugby before football, and know and love the history of how we got here from there. I feel like that wouldn't apply to the vast majority though. But if concussions force that evolution anyway... might was well go our own way. :shrug:

Well the one thing I really enjoy about the CFL is that it doesn't appear to be based on 350 pound slobs.

thurmas Nov 14, 2019 11:54 PM

Being a Winnipegger I will give credit to Regina on their downtown compared to ours. It is much cleaner and feels safer and friendlier and has much better organization compared to Winnipeg's downtown especially for a city of Regina's size it feels much larger than it actually is downtown.

elly63 Nov 18, 2019 5:40 PM

CFL Divisional Finals has Hamilton attendance over capacity at 25,177 and Regina selling out at 33.3k.


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