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Oberhafenjunge Jan 13, 2021 3:00 PM

Grand Madrid Diagram Extension/Makeover?
Madrid (3,5mio, metro 6+mio inhabitants) is one of the largest cities in Europe but still has a diagram with less Buildings than Birmingham(~1,1mio), Manchester(~0,5mio), Hamburg (~1,9mio) or Frankfurt(~0,7mio), which all are just a fraction of Madrids size.


Also of the existing Diagrams, some Buildings like the four towers of the late 2000s and some Iconic Buildings have some very high quality Diagrams whereas the rest of the Diagram simply falls behind, being either poor quality drawings, the building not being really recognisable or the building having weirdly off heights.
Mahou Building for example is drawn 20m taller than it's actual size. (EDIT: Fixed by Etesia!)
Gómez Ulloa Hospital is drawn 15m shorter than it is(EDIT: Fixed by Etesia!)

Capitan Haya 51 is drawn 10m short
Cuzco IV is a nice drawing but its drawn 10-15 meters short
Torre Castilla on the other hand is 10m taller than in reality
and Edificio Bronce is again drawn 15m to tall
I checked all of the heighs on google earth and the database entries are correct, so this are false drawing heights!

This are just examples of the first two pages of the diagram, some things get even worse from here.
Madrids Diagram

This should not be seen as something disrespectful to the illustrators who put effort into those existing drawings, but rather highlight the need for better drawings for such an important European metropolis.

I made a start and tried already to give Madrid a little more graphical love. Maybe there are some of you who would like to join me and give Madrid a little more love as well.
Collective Progress made since the beginning of this thread:

Etesia Jan 14, 2021 7:17 AM

It's an interesting article.
Madrid is a great city.
I will consider improving the quality:)

Oberhafenjunge Jan 14, 2021 6:09 PM


Originally Posted by Etesia (Post 9159204)
It's an interesting article.
Madrid is a great city.
I will consider improving the quality:)

Thanks for considering Etesia!
Would love to see drawings from you here! :cheers:

Maybe this (spanish) Wiki-List of tallest Buildings in Madrid (with pictures) is of some help

Etesia Jan 30, 2021 11:38 AM

I drew a hospital and torre mahou for a building whose height was not right in Madrid. It will be added soon.

Oberhafenjunge Feb 2, 2021 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Etesia (Post 9175033)
I drew a hospital and torre mahou for a building whose height was not right in Madrid. It will be added soon.

Wow! Thanks! Those look really Great! :cool:

Oberhafenjunge May 21, 2021 9:43 AM

150 highrises/towers?
now that Madrid is again on the front page I would like to revive this thread!
Can we collectively bring Madrid to 150 drawn diagrams? (highrise and towers)
There are a lot of buildings of Madrid missing in the database.
I'm already preparing some requests for many older highrises along the Gran Via but there are plenty more. Also there are quite a few (106!) undrawn highrises in the database. This is just slightly more than there are drawings (105).

And then there is the problem about the quality, mentioned above. Many buildings have drawings with false heights or vice versa.

It would be nice if the Madrid Diagram could receive the kind of attention and care other cities like Berlin got a few years ago or many latin american metropolis like Santiago or Buenos Aires (And surroundings) are receiving right now.

Anyone wants to join in with some drawings or some database request? :tup:

Etesia Jun 3, 2021 5:13 PM

It's a pity that there's no database editor in Spain. I am fluent in Korean and Japanese, so I manage information of two countries, but I cannot manage other countries. It would be helpful for me to know the website where Spanish architectural information (height, floor building year, etc.) is gathered.

La_Parca Jun 4, 2021 7:40 AM

Emporis have listed a lot of buildings we dont have in SSP, for example in Spain, you can take information from there, also you can take heights from 3D modelling of Google Earth

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