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Skyguy_7 Nov 20, 2017 7:43 PM


Cross-post via Tower Verre thread.. You can see how well the E/W facade plays with surrounding buildings. Looks like it's been there forever. Cannot overstate the drool factor of this building. :slob:

NYguy Nov 20, 2017 7:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 7992190)
Cross-post via Tower Verre thread.. You can see how well the E/W facade plays with surrounding buildings. Looks like it's been there forever. Cannot overstate the drool factor of this building. :slob:

Yeah, one thing about the people at 53w53, they will also get a nice view of the great buildings to the north as well as the park.

NYguy Nov 23, 2017 3:49 AM

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Placing a 22,000 pound link beam as #111W57 keeps rising

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Boerumer Nov 25, 2017 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 7978796)
Holy Jesus.

Behold, your new Versailles!

artspook Nov 26, 2017 1:00 AM

one thing to say about this one, . .
it could not be any more than it is . .

NYguy Nov 27, 2017 9:28 PM

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That feeling when your project #SteinwayTower was the opening shot of this morning’s parade broadcast! Photo by @mignugget3 #thankful

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Prezrezc Nov 27, 2017 9:45 PM

It seems downright crazy to imagine an 11-ton piece of façade being attached to the bulk of a tower that will look so willowy....

artspook Nov 28, 2017 9:59 AM

"tower . . so willowy...." - Prezrezc

the perceptual fragility of both north & south views
of thinny 111's structure . . is anxiety-producing beyond insane . .
the east & west views, however are melodically decorated filagree . .
reaching up into a tantalizingly steep tectonic stairway form . .
a wildly distinctive magical crown of heavenly organ pipes . .
soaring beyond the point of no return . .
I'm both crossing my fingers and holding my breath for
the implausible result . .

Skyguy_7 Nov 28, 2017 2:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Prezrezc (Post 7999237)
It seems downright crazy to imagine an 11-ton piece of façade being attached to the bulk of a tower that will look so willowy....

That's a structural member, not a piece of facade. Still crazy!

streetscaper Nov 30, 2017 12:07 AM

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J_M_Tungsten Nov 30, 2017 1:28 AM

Stunning facade!

Cypherus Nov 30, 2017 2:35 AM

Absolutely fantastic!

tdawg Nov 30, 2017 12:25 PM

This might end up being my favorite building in the whole city.

Skyguy_7 Nov 30, 2017 2:25 PM

^Incredible shots. Incredible.

The thought that this 1,400'er is essentially rising out of an alley, just blows my mind. And that these two columns are the extent of the foundation?? I just can't articulate the amazement. ShoP I'd kiss you if I could.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1492/...95db79a8_o.jpg 9 months ago, via ILNY

NYguy Nov 30, 2017 7:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8002814)
^Incredible shots. Incredible.

The thought that this 1,400'er is essentially rising out of an alley, just blows my mind. And that these two columns are the extent of the foundation?? I just can't articulate the amazement. ShoP I'd kiss you if I could.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1492/...95db79a8_o.jpg 9 months ago, via ILNY

You're looking at it wrong, that's only part of it. The building rises partially inside the existing Steinway Hall.

dbp80203 Dec 1, 2017 5:22 PM

Terra Cotta Question(s)
 
I live in what would be considered by NYC standards as a pre-war building - masonry construction with terra cotta accents cemented into place. When I look at the photos of the siding panels being installed - I see the terra cotta is floating/raised above a surface, and can see space between the individual pieces.

I am presuming this was done on purpose, to provide expansion/contraction flexibility, and the actual skin surface to the building will be the surface underneath the terra cotta. Am I wrong? I am bringing this up because of the Grenfell Tower in London.




Prezrezc Dec 2, 2017 11:24 PM

Two questions, one rhetorical and one technical...in that order:

1. Where did they get the inspiration for the terra-cotta design?

2. Are the contours of the bronze component supposed to change as the tower rises further?

I seem to recall looking at some renders before and preceiving an optical illusion of sorts that on closer look got me to ask that second question.

JSsocal Dec 2, 2017 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dbp80203 (Post 8004722)
I live in what would be considered by NYC standards as a pre-war building - masonry construction with terra cotta accents cemented into place. When I look at the photos of the siding panels being installed - I see the terra cotta is floating/raised above a surface, and can see space between the individual pieces.

I am presuming this was done on purpose, to provide expansion/contraction flexibility, and the actual skin surface to the building will be the surface underneath the terra cotta. Am I wrong? I am bringing this up because of the Grenfell Tower in London.

You are seeing this building correctly, this is indeed terra cotta that is not directly a part of a masonry construction, but is instead clipped onto each facade panel in a pre-fabricated piece. Yes probably done for expansion/contraction, water handling, lighter weight, less labor, & ease of maintenance.

Grenfell tower in London? Completely different. That building affixed flammable insulation to the exterior of a concrete facade, and that insulation is what caught fire all the way up. This building acts more like a traditional curtain wall skyscraper instead of a masonry building, where the facade is built from non-combustible & fire-rated components and hangs on the structure.

Mickey Bricks Dec 3, 2017 12:50 AM

Oh man, I can't wait! This is going to be the swankiest building in Christendom.

Busy Bee Dec 3, 2017 3:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dbp80203 (Post 8004722)
When I look at the photos of the siding panels being installed - I see the terra cotta is floating/raised above a surface, and can see space between the individual pieces.

The cladding is essentially a "rainscreen" where the finish material, in this case a very classy ogee terra cotta, floats over the real weather barrier and structural panel which here is faced in what appears to be aluminum and attached with stainless steel clips, brackets and hardware which can be adjusted. Absolute kudos to SHoP for insisting on this "imperfect" slightly misaligned look as it adds so much textural interest. I wasn't sure about it when I first saw the cladding mock-up but I love it seeing it rise.


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