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Hollywood Graham Sep 17, 2021 3:39 PM

Hollywood Skyscraper
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stanklem (Post 9398913)
FWIW, am an architect. Try hard not to comment on others designs.
This is an overwrought, over the top, out of scale, and out of context monster gussied up in some green to make it more palatable to approving entities. Am wondering if it is fancied as a locus and local home for PRC media influencers. In process of writing local community boards and City of LA Planning Department to express concerns.

The government admitted there may be aliens already here from outer space, this is obviously tangible proof that there is at least one here.

ethereal_reality Sep 17, 2021 4:26 PM

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Remember this from yesterday.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1dPkR4.jpg



I just found two other Pasadena slides that were probably taken by the same person who took the mystery fort-like water tower slide.

All three are dated 1962 and are being sold by the same eBay seller.

The newly found slides lend credence to the . .um. .that the location of the water tower is indeed Pasadena, California.



"Pasadena, California, Castle Green Hotel and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/h4LwuX.jpg
eBay






"Pasadena, California, Street Scene and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/TA9YvR.jpg
eBay

I'll add that we're looking at Bullock's Pasadena. (it's not a very good photograph)


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Martin Pal Sep 17, 2021 5:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham (Post 9399080)
The government admitted there may be aliens already here from outer space, this is obviously tangible proof that there is at least one here.

LOL! Well, it is from the same company that designed George Lucas' Star Wars looking museum near USC.

--My first thought is that it looked like an oven mitt.

--A lot of the building designs currently being proposed all have greenery. I'm not opposed to greenery, but my thoughts run to: Greenery needs water. Water is in lessening supply. Greenery draws insects or other pests. Do these new buildings come with gardeners.

--It would be across the street from this newish building: Emerson College.

https://cdnassets.hw.net/dims4/GG/8f...ap-emerson.jpg

Handsome Stranger Sep 17, 2021 9:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stanklem (Post 9398913)
FWIW, am an architect. Try hard not to comment on others designs.
This is an overwrought, over the top, out of scale, and out of context monster gussied up in some green to make it more palatable to approving entities.

Wholeheartedly agree. I also notice it's covered with lots of highly reflective surfaces. This is a fundamentally bad idea.

CaliNative Sep 18, 2021 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9399136)
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Remember this from yesterday.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1dPkR4.jpg



I just found two other Pasadena slides that were probably taken by the same person who took the mystery fort-like water tower slide.

All three are dated 1962 and are being sold by the same eBay seller.

The newly found slides lend credence to the . .um. .that the location of the water tower is indeed Pasadena, California.



"Pasadena, California, Castle Green Hotel and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/h4LwuX.jpg
eBay






"Pasadena, California, Street Scene and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/TA9YvR.jpg
eBay

I'll add that we're looking at Bullock's Pasadena. (it's not a very good photograph)


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Those tail fins bring back memories (not all good): Drop ("duck and cover") drills in school. Smog alerts. Backyard incinerators. On hot summer days in the valley visits to Pacific Ocean Park ("POP") and Marineland. Downtown skyline dominated by City Hall, Richfield tower and the giant gasometers. Elvis. Koufax and Drysdale. Leave it to Beaver. My 3 Sons. The Mickey Mouse Club. Ed Sullivan and Bonanza on Sunday night etc. :wiseman:

odinthor Sep 18, 2021 5:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9398417)
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A mystery in Pasadena. (AKA..I've never seen this structure before)


Seller's description:...Pasadena, California, Water Tower and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1dPkR4.jpg
eBay

If it is a water tower why all the windows?

It occurred me that this might be a Pasadena in a different state but when you look at the surroundings it certainly looks like Pasadena California.


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Carmelita Park in Pasadena seems to have had a water tower . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/RVY121rM/Carmel...1934-11-25.jpg
LA Times, 11/25/1934

. . . but good luck seeing it under all the vines in this photo (it's at right, I guess) . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/zBqTT0hk/Carmel...1934-11-25.jpg
LA Times, 11/25/1934

:shrug:

ethereal_reality Sep 18, 2021 4:09 PM

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You found my water tower! :worship:

Thanks, odinthor.




It appears that Carmelita Park is now Carmelita Gardens and is home to on ramps and off ramps. :(

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/ZaKxPw.jpg
GSV


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Lwize Sep 18, 2021 9:22 PM

Who would put gardens amongst freeway on and off ramps?

:???:

Noir_Noir Sep 19, 2021 3:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9398417)

Seller's description:...Pasadena, California, Water Tower and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1dPkR4.jpg
eBay

Quote:

Originally Posted by odinthor (Post 9399785)
Carmelita Park in Pasadena seems to have had a water tower . . .

https://i.postimg.cc/RVY121rM/Carmel...1934-11-25.jpg
LA Times, 11/25/1934


I thought there would be more pictures to find online of this building. :???:

It's unusual and "one of Pasadena's landmarks" according to the 1934 clipping.

Is this it in a 1962 aerial - same year as the Ebay picture? :shrug:


https://i.imgur.com/6bflOEh.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


On the streets bordering Carmelita Park, I think this looks the most likely candidate.


In 1938 it's appears to be inside the park's bounds in the north west portion, tallying with odinthor's 1934 clipping.


https://i.imgur.com/ISu0lcW.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


About here on a present day map.

https://i.imgur.com/Kbc2VLQ.jpg
Google Maps

ethereal_reality Sep 19, 2021 3:44 PM

:previous:

Is that a house with two gables in the 1938 photograph?



Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/fVIqy7.jpg






And what about the discarded lumber utility poles in the lower right corner.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/VjC2d0.jpg

or are they pipes? :shrug:



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Mackerm Sep 20, 2021 4:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9398417)
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A mystery in Pasadena. (AKA..I've never seen this structure before)


Seller's description:...Pasadena, California, Water Tower and Cars in 1962, Kodachrome Slide

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/1dPkR4.jpg
eBay



This is the background of a photo of a Richard Serra sculpture called Base Plate Deflection: In It, On It which was installed at the Pasadena Art Museum (I've cropped out the sculpture itself). Was the sculpture installed before the museum was even built?

https://i.postimg.cc/Xq5n9P1N/Richar...Deflection.png

Norton Simon Museum

ethereal_reality Sep 20, 2021 4:58 PM

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:previous: Excellent, Mackerm, another photo of the elusive water tower. Believe me they are are few and far in between.


Here is some clarifying information.

Carmelita Gardens/Park, originally known simply as 'Carmelita', was the 42 acre property of Mrs. Jeanne Carr and Dr. Carr - 7 acres of which became the Norton Simon Museum property.



I found this interesting.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/pzYWOy.jpg

"Here are the Carrs at a rustic cabin that was on the property when they purchased it in 1880. They loved it so much they could never bring themselves to demolish it."

The Carrs are my kind of people. :)






The Carrs built a large home (which might have been a boarding house as well)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/D2ENwL.jpg
link coming


Later, the Carrs built a much more elaborate home which can be seen in an early Flyingwedge post. (the link is provided at the bottom of the post)

I need to research this more to go any further because I'm confused about the homes and where they stood on the property.

That said; I have no idea which home is visible in Noir Noir's 1938 aerial.



This local blog solved some of the mystery as recently as 2009 but it doesn't mention the unique water tower at all.

But a commenter does mention it.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/Th9ivQ.jpg
pasadenapio

No one answered her question.





The Carrs are previously mentioned in two NLA posts from 2015.

Flyingwedge's post Here

And tovanger2' follow-up post Here



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Mstimc Sep 20, 2021 6:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Handsome Stranger (Post 9399502)
Wholeheartedly agree. I also notice it's covered with lots of highly reflective surfaces. This is a fundamentally bad idea.

I believe there's a building in Dallas (?) that has a slightly concave surface that catches and concentrates the sun's rays and has been known to melt rubber surfaces of parked cars.

HossC Sep 20, 2021 6:59 PM

:previous:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mstimc (Post 9401730)
I believe there's a building in Dallas (?) that has a slightly concave surface that catches and concentrates the sun's rays and has been known to melt rubber surfaces of parked cars.

That's certainly true of 20 Fenchurch Street AKA The Walkie Talkie in London. According to Wikipedia, the concave glass produced spot street-level temperatures up to 243 °F (117 °C) before they fitted awnings to the higher floors.

ethereal_reality Sep 20, 2021 9:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 9383236)
!907 Gardena

https://i.imgur.com/mOx2pTn.png?1
eBay

From what I have read about Moneta which eventually became part of Gardena, the early town center was at Western Ave. & 166th St. That would be my best guess as to the location of the postcard photo.

You answered a question I had back in 2016.



I was confused back then because this rppc was labeled thusly. . .

"1910 era RPPC Real Photo Postcard MONETA California Gardena Street Los Angeles"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/SZDSUx.jpg
eBay

At the time I looked for a "Gardena Street" but now I realize the seller was just mentioning that there was a "street" in the photograph. duh


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stanklem Sep 20, 2021 9:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 9398843)
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Developers Propose a New Hollywood Office Tower
Location: Sunset Blvd. near Gower. A creation of MAD Architects, an architecture firm known for daring designs.
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-09-16/hollywood-high-rise-office-with-rooftop-restaurant-planned


https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...ollywood-1.jpg

Quote from todays article in UrbanizeLA, the project is,
"Inspired by the curvilinear forms of the Griffith Observatory, Capitol Records Building, Hollywood Bowl, and the Cinerama Dome, it asserts a new typology for the office of the future."
They are really trying. Hardly much there for inspiration for a major office tower.

Another image.

https://urbanize.city/la/sites/urban...?itok=Q51P0gCc

Noir_Noir Sep 21, 2021 12:47 AM

Pasadena Water Tower
 
Tower pictures ... which I completely missed first time around. :)


https://i.imgur.com/ENNB727.jpg
pasadenadigitalhistory.com

Two more at link.


Article from 1969 on the history and impending demolition of the tower -

pasadenadigitalhistory.com - New freeway route spells doom for a relic of Pasadena's past

ethereal_reality Sep 21, 2021 6:28 PM

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Here's what you would have seen if you were a bus passenger pulling up to the corner of to the S. Broadway and 3rd St. in 1972.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/922/L0URIZ.jpg
eBay

I'm not sure what's going on with the policemen and that van. It appears that one of them is writing a ticket.




Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/myKwdo.jpg
detail

Is that a paddy wagon?


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ethereal_reality Sep 21, 2021 7:07 PM

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Mystery location.

A handsome sailor poses by a car in Los Angeles.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/dPiaWJ.jpg
eBay

I don't think we'll be able to solve this mystery location. .


. . but that sailor!

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/9485/zDmYOe.gif












Here's a closer look at the home(?) at the end of the street.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/t1YEVp.jpg
detail



And the license plate.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/U4Dmqr.jpg





in the far distance there is. .um. .something....

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/3...922/4dnnVg.jpg

I showed this to a friend & they thought perhaps we're looking north from San Pedro.

:shrug:

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