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spoonman Sep 29, 2010 2:13 AM

Anyone see the convention center plans here?

http://www.conventioncentertaskforce...concepts.shtml

HurricaneHugo Sep 29, 2010 4:45 AM

Yup, we just hope it actually goes through!

Derek Sep 29, 2010 6:45 AM

I got stuck on a jury so I snapped this shot of the new courthouse from the skywalk between the Hall of Justice and the County Courthouse. It's not significant I know. It's from my iPhone. I was just thinking of you guys. :D


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/l...r/IMG_0025.jpg

HurricaneHugo Sep 29, 2010 9:54 AM

Makes me sad knowing how much taller it could have been. :(

Derek Sep 29, 2010 2:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 4997768)
Makes me sad knowing how much taller it could have been. :(



Didn't you hear the new plans?



The whole thing is underground, they are just building the roof now. ;)

SDfan Oct 8, 2010 3:55 PM

Quote:

London Flights to Resume

Wednesday, October 6, 2010

British Airways announced Oct. 6 that it will offer daily nonstop flights from San Diego International Airport to London’s Heathrow Airport starting June 1. It will be the first such service offered locally since 2003.

At an airport news conference, airline officials said the service stems from a newly launched joint business agreement involving British Airways, American Airlines and Spanish carrier Iberia.

“Combined selling and scheduling means that we will be able to operate routes that would not have been feasible for us to operate individually,” said Kevin Burns, a regional director with British Airways.

British Airways Flight 272, on the carrier’s Boeing 777 aircraft with 275 seats, will leave daily from London at 3:05 p.m. local time and arrive in San Diego at 6:15 p.m. local time. The flight will depart San Diego from Terminal 2 at 8:05 p.m. local time, arriving in London at 2:25 p.m. the following day.

British Airways hasn’t offered local flights to London since 2003, when it discontinued San Diego service amid companywide cutbacks. The industry at the time was reeling from a global slowdown in air travel following the terrorist events of September 2001.

San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders noted that the new flights will benefit the region’s tourism and business promotion efforts, as London is a key destination city for local residents and corporate travelers.

“The importance of this service cannot be overstated,” Sanders said.

— Lou Hirsh

http://www.sdbj.com/news/2010/oct/06...lights-resume/
Wait...this doesn't make sense to me. I thought we couldn't support intercontinental flights with our runway...

Derek Oct 9, 2010 3:08 AM

That's good news! :D




SDFan - Defunct Zoom Airlines ran a 767 from San Diego to Heathrow like twice weekly a few years back...it'll be interesting to see a 777 at SAN!

HurricaneHugo Oct 9, 2010 3:21 AM

Damn...luckily those construction workers were there.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...-shots-at-a-s/

HurricaneHugo Oct 9, 2010 3:27 AM

And the Chargers stadium will probably be sped up by 18 months! :D

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...-shots-at-a-s/

"A potential downtown Chargers stadium may be closer to reality as a result of last-minute legislation passed Friday morning as part of the new state budget.

The arrangement, advanced by Assemblyman Nathan Fletcher, R-San Diego, eliminates the present $2.9 billion cap on a downtown redevelopment plan adopted in 1992, theoretically making it possible for the city to build a new stadium east of Petco Park, estimated to cost at least $800 million, hundreds of millions of dollars of which could come from public spending."

Derek Oct 9, 2010 5:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5009897)
And the Chargers stadium will probably be sped up by 18 months! :D

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...-shots-at-a-s/

"A potential downtown Chargers stadium may be closer to reality as a result of last-minute legislation passed Friday morning as part of the new state budget.

The arrangement, advanced by Assemblyman Nathan Fletcher, R-San Diego, eliminates the present $2.9 billion cap on a downtown redevelopment plan adopted in 1992, theoretically making it possible for the city to build a new stadium east of Petco Park, estimated to cost at least $800 million, hundreds of millions of dollars of which could come from public spending."



Nice! :D


Can't wait to hear more...


P.S. You posted the shooting link twice. :P

Here you go!
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...-state-budget/

SDfan Oct 9, 2010 5:49 AM

So if we can go to London, why not Asia?...

Derek Oct 9, 2010 5:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 5010012)
So if we can go to London, why not Asia?...



Philippine Airlines has been trying to get a Manila-Vancouver-San Diego (or something...) flight for some time but nothing has really happened with that in a while...

kpexpress Oct 9, 2010 9:05 AM

Park Blvd and F street
 
Upon returning to san diego I noticed that the old tech trades training building, owned by city college, has started to be demolished between Park/13th and E/F. Does anyone know what's going to be built there? My guess is a parking lot for now and maybe a city college building later on.

Does anyone have any details about this though?

kpexpress Oct 9, 2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek (Post 5009982)
Nice! :D


Can't wait to hear more...


P.S. You posted the shooting link twice. :P

Here you go!
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...-state-budget/

It's going to cost about $6Billion to complete the downtown community plan alone (chargers' stadium aside). This means way more to downtown than just the possibility if a chargers stadium.

SDfan Oct 10, 2010 1:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpexpress (Post 5010052)
Upon returning to san diego I noticed that the old tech trades training building, owned by city college, has started to be demolished between Park/13th and E/F. Does anyone know what's going to be built there? My guess is a parking lot for now and maybe a city college building later on.

Does anyone have any details about this though?

At the corner on Broadway there is a rendering billboard of the buildings they are constructing at that block. I'll take a pic and post it here eventually.

dl3000 Oct 10, 2010 6:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 5009872)
That's good news! :D




SDFan - Defunct Zoom Airlines ran a 767 from San Diego to Heathrow like twice weekly a few years back...it'll be interesting to see a 777 at SAN!

Actually 777s are here all the time. Hawaiian Airlines runs them and I'm sure there are others. I remember way back late 90s a 747 would come in headed to Phoenix then London.

Derek Oct 10, 2010 5:19 PM

Really? I'm too young to remember that. :)



I thought Hawaiian ran 767s. I guess I'm corrected! :D

Trvlr Oct 10, 2010 7:38 PM

Philippine (PAL) is indeed trying to start SAN-YVR-MNL, probably with very large aircraft--777-300ERs that are actually larger than the kind BA will be using (777-200ER) for the non-stop Heathrow route.

However, the FAA recently downgraded the Philippines' "safety rating" (for the country, not the airline), meaning a lack of confidence in safety practices and infrastructure. A consequence is that airlines from that country are not allowed to add new service to the U.S. until the country safety rating is upgraded back to normal. As soon as that happens, we'll probably see PAL fly to San Diego. Give it a year or so.

The largest aircraft flying into SAN right now are FedEx's DC-10s, to Memphis. Hawaiian flies 767s to Honolulu and Maui, Delta flies a 767 to Atlanta from time to time, and American even flew a 767 to New York until recently. Zoom did fly SAN-LGW (London Gatwick) nonstop 3x a week until they went bankrupt and ceased operations.

Our runway is small compared to other int'l airports, but a bigger problem is the hills on either side (Banker's Hill to the east, Point Loma to the west). Aircraft need to be able to climb fast and high enough to clear these obstructions, which means compromising performance for larger aircraft flying longer routes. That's why BA's 747s couldn't fly non-stop to London--they had to make a pit stop in Phoenix. However, the smaller 777 can make it non-stop--but only just.

Looking forward, Boeing's new 787 (delayed 2 years and counting) will help mid-size cities like San Diego gain new int'l service, because they are efficient enough to make longer, thinner routes profitable. For now, we should be happy with BA's return and the imminent arrival of PAL. Canadian and Mexican service has also picked up, with new or added non-stop flights to Vancouver, Calgary, Toronto, Puerto Vallarta and Cabo. I think that within 3-5 years, a flight to a major Asian hub isn't out of the question, and we could also see a second daily flight to another European hub (Frankfurt or Amsterdam). Patience...

SDfan Oct 10, 2010 8:31 PM

^^ Thank you for the info!

dl3000 Oct 11, 2010 1:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek (Post 5011025)
Really? I'm too young to remember that. :)



I thought Hawaiian ran 767s. I guess I'm corrected! :D

No problem, if I didn't know any better I would have assumed 767 was the biggest SAN could handle too. I just remember going to my little brother's soccer practices at MCRD and seeing the British Airways 747 at that last gate in Terminal 2 West. They had it go to Phoenix where it would take on most of its weight since it has to be pretty light to operate at SAN. And then it would go to London. I don't know about right now, but I know I left SD in a 777 to Hawaii and it was a daily flight. I agree though, Hawaiian uses mostly 767s.

What I wonder is what sorts of opportunities can come about with the 787 since it will have such extended range. Perhaps other European or Asian destinations could become available.(EDIT: Sorry, Trvlr, seems like I read your post after I posted about the 787). I'm still wishing for a new airport at Miramar. Call me crazy but that would be amazing. It would open the door to higher buildings too.


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