I agree that is the best location as well. You already have the services of Petco, access to light rail, and the crowd could spill over into downtown after the games to help the city.
The only way this site would happen if there is pressure on the city leaders/Chargers. I've sent an email to all to encourage them to strongly consider this location. |
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Downtown would be sweet... if you like large sites sitting unused for the majority of the year. The site in question also has existing public uses... notably a large bus yard. Relocating that function would be a huge cost to taxpayers... and have its own relocation efforts that would need to be answered first. I like another site... on the waterfront at the 10th Avenue Terminal IF IF marine and stadium uses can coexist in a postive and functional way. But, I think the northwest quadrant of I-5 and I-8 is best. Light-rail is there.. or soon will be. And, I can imagine a little teraforming and some new marine docs and townhomes to go along with the site. Being Mission Bay would be pretty sweet. |
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They aren't just football stadiums. Hell you can use the floor as convention center space if its that close by. I think downtown makes the most sense. And if there is a public transportation spot on the land needed, that is why we have designers who can utilize the space for multifunction. |
^the economics of large stadiums just don't work that way. it takes a lot of money to rent out a huge venue like a football stadium. Very few concerts would make a profit because of those costs and those bands that could pencil out at a football stadium already have several large venues in the San Diego area that are well established.
The same economic problems would plague using a football stadium for most of the things you've listed: SD doesn't have a basketball team and no amateur teams could make money using a stadium that large as a venue, same goes for soccer. Convention space is equally baffling as a use given the multitude of convention specific spaces in SD. So far as I know only the very largest conventions have found the convention center lacking (I know we may lose Comic-Con for this reason). Land downtown is very valuable. A football stadium just doesn't make sense there...at all. |
SD Falls to 9th Largest City
"As population rankings go, San Diego's descent this decade has been swift. First it was Phoenix that knocked the city down a notch from its No. 6 berth, and a few years later along came San Antonio, dislodging it from No. 7. Now, Texas has struck again."
I'm not surprised. The DFW metroplex is growing like crazy. Also, the city of Dallas has a team of people going to Fortune 500 businesses trying to entice them to move their headquarters to Dallas, stating the "economy is better, lower unemployment, lower cost of living, and lower cost to do business." AT&T and others recently made the move. And I didn't know till yesterday that TX has the most Fortune 500 companies, with NY being second, and CA third. http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stori...ce-population/ |
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I think the stadium downtown is a great idea. Look what Petco Park did for East Village. I do not think all these new condo buildings would exist if it were not for the ballpark. Having the football stadium downtown would do the same further east. Since the new football stadium will be a super bowl caliber stadium, downtown has a lot of hotels for people to stay in and downtown has the harbor for ships/boats to dock. And don't forget the fun gaslamp quarter. If people think congestion is a problem take a look at Philadelphia's 4 stadiums all right next to each other. South Philly is now building "Philly Live", which is going to be shops, restaurants, and entertainment in South Philly. Downtown has public transportation available right now, with highways only blocks away. I do agree that downtown's land is valuable, but not when it is abandoned and filled with the homeless. DEVELOP DOWNTOWN, DEVELOP!!!!!! |
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Football, on the other hand, has 8 home games a year, add about 2 for pre-season and maybe a playoff game if the team is good, then you have 10-12 in a good year. But, all but 2-4 games are on Sunday afternoons. Sunday afternoon games do not seem to have a good opportunity to greatly benefit downtown businesses. The best thing that can be said... for retail that is... is that football draws about 60,000 fans at a time. For a season... that's probably about 600,000 butts. I think baseball draws over 2 million a season. Maybe 3 million. |
Ok, those that think a downtown stadium would sit vacant for most of the year are flat out wrong. The stadium last year hosted over 150 events, including obviously the Chargers games, but also conventions such as the Jehovah Witness convention, soccer games including the recent Mexico vs. Guatemala match, drag racing, and the numerous trade shows and conventions.
The stadium is host to: * San Diego Chargers Football * San Diego State University Aztecs Football * Pacific Life Holiday Bowl * San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl * San Diego Auto Connection * OMBAC * Big 3 Auto Parts Exchange * RaceLegal |
A new stadium in this region could also attract more bowl games. :)
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^Right and many of those functions can happen at Qualcomm given it's current age and location and it's current costs. A brand new stadium, downtown, wouldn't be able to support the same kinds of activities at a cost that's competitive with competing venues with a far lower cost structure. I mean it seems like a strange comparison to compare what an aging (though by no means 'old') stadium 15 miles outside downtown on relatively cheap land could afford to do relative to a brand new stadium downtown and it's associated cost structure...
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I just want a new stadium to keep the Chargers and perhaps host a World Cup match or two. :)
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I just wish it wasn't too much to ask. :( |
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The bus depot is a terrible use of space in that area.
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I believe lots of federal funds are apportioned according to population and population ranking...?
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