Okay, I'm an no expert on 'canyons', but here's a few examples of what I think constitutes urban canyon in Vancouver (ALL TAKEN BY ME!) after looking through my vaults:

Perhaps Georgia Street is the best example I have:
Looking west up Georgia:
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/876/img3030j.jpg

Twilight shot:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8672/img1041k.jpg

Fog shot, looking east:
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1674/dscf8583.jpg

Hastings Street, looking east:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3033/img3024q.jpg

Granville Street, though I'm not sure if this would count:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3691/img1070t.jpg

And again, at night:
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/6369/img3672k.jpg

One-sided apartment tower canyon...?
http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/3830/dscf7392.jpg

A few of my Vancouver shots:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2697/...b2c2f805_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/...9d5495fb_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2462/...8d766c7f_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2445/...715661dc_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2576/...0fa9bc8d_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/...e56a1f92_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3637/...1b8c64a1_b.jpg

And a few more of mine, plus one from Locked In:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1116/...174a3053_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/...db8d40af_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/...eb2d09f2_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2134/...551ce7b2_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/...3c6254f4_b.jpg

http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g2...y/100_5584.jpg

And a pic by Locked In:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_9FW9P3-u1EI/Sw...0/SDC10113.JPG
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=175928

The definition of canyon is really being stretched:haha:

You can say that again. Except for a portion of Bay Street, Toronto really does not have huge sections of canyons. Our high-rises are so spread out throughout the downtown core, that you just don't get that samy canyon effect, that you do in other cities.

WTF?

Here is the list of all the canyon streets in Toronto... btw, Bay street is a canyon all the way from Cumberland to the lake or about 1 and a half miles..

Wellington
Queens Quay
Yonge street
College Carlton at yonge to church
King Street
University ave
Bloor street in Yorkville

King
Yonge
Bloor
Richmond
Adelaide
Wellington
Victoria
York
University

...all have pretty major canyons.

Vancouver isn't really a canyon city. The CBD is so compact, and we all know about the point tower form. You need long streets which are lined with closely-spaced, tall, fat buildings with uniformly-small setbacks. Which is pretty well the exact opposite of the direction Vancouver has gone.

The only streets that come to mind that would most closely resemble canyons would be Cordova west and parts of Alberni. These streets are not very wide and the buildings' placement, height and spacing emulate a canyon, even though it isn't. It has that presence when walking those streets.

Vancouver (mine).

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/6...4786400890.jpg

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/2...4796387419.jpg

well, let's have a definition of canyon then. I was just going by what I'd seen posted earlier.

I wasn't singling you out, just the thread in general.

1939
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3448/...c92c101f_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/...1ce7196c_o.jpg

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Here is more of me strolling down wellington.... in the new canyon created by the Ritz, Rbc, Metro Hall, and Roy thompson Hall...

that 2nd exchange district (Winnipeg) photo is awesome

Some are canyons. Some are gullies. Some are gulches. and then there is ditchmond.

Cal I applaud your tenacity and I am a Toronto lover too, but one block of a street does not make a canyon. The above video is an example of what could be, but filling in the rest of it with your imagination doesn't make it so. A canyon either exists or it doesn't.

Even saying Bay street is a canyon from the lake to north of Bloor is a bit of a stretch. The east side of Bay north of City Hall is a cliff for sure, but the west side never matches its consistency and height to be a real canyon. Sections of it work but others don't.

In my opinion Toronto has many short spurts that are canyon like, if you squint and don't think about what happens at the end of the next block (ahem... surface parking lot).

In my humble opinion, a canyon should stretch for many city blocks, have consistent height on both sides of the street and few if any setbacks.

Yep, Toronto has fewer actual canyons as one who think. There are a few complete blocks and a few more partials here or there but Corbusier's philosophy and unrealized 60s/70s redevelopment has certainly left its mark. The future is very bright with projects like 550 Wellington and Boutique.

why do you have to single me out, you could have singled out the others.. if Bay Street is not a canyon, then which of the other posted pictures is?

This is the Canada section, and in those terms, Bay street is the monster here..

That's a nice "cliff"!



Here's a little preview for Montreal, with some of my recent pictures (2010).
I'll post more later (and more pics of MAJOR canyons) once I find my older pictures.


St-Mathieu Street looking north, February 26, 2010
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_9623.jpg

St-Jacques Street looking west (from the east end of the street), February 26, 2010
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_9574.jpg

Notre-Dame Street looking west, February 26, 2010
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_9583.jpg

Sherbrooke Street looking west, January 8, 2010
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e2...s/IMG_8422.jpg

Sorry if you feel persecuted, I wasn't singling you out as much as I was singling Toronto out. 90% of the proponents of Toronto's possible canyons have been either you or Ramako. Yours was just the most recent post. I was just stating my belief that Toronto is not a city of canyons, in my (admittedly personal) definition of canyon. Some of the Vancouver and Calgary and even Ottawa submissions more closely resemble what I constitute a canyon.

Toronto has a lot of tall crap, for that it is the hands down winner, but sporadic height doesn't make a canyon in my opinion.

^ whatever guy.

University Ave Streetwall by me

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yonge street by me


http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/8909/sany1021.jpg

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6687/sany1023.jpg

imma post some shit and make traynor look stupid..

Toronto doesn't have Canyons????

good loard..

Bay Street isnt a canyon...??

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3367/...7c52df20_b.jpg

Ramako you used one of my pictures.... .now I'm double posting that !!

ha....well what can I say, it's hot..

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3635/...bc801fdf_b.jpg

ok Traynor, im ready forya smacktalk now...

let me have it.... i gotta thousand photos ready to go...

Here is the King Streetwall forming further west there with the Toronto Film Festival

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6345/sany0058.jpg

the low rise section of Yonge Street.. I was actually posting this in the 11 to 30 thread and said oh geez.. I can post this shot in the Canyon thread too..

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5829/sany0140.jpg

Caltrane, I guess your definition of a canyon is any street that has buildings on it?:haha:

That statement and your photos accomplishes the exact opposite Cal. They make you look stupid.... You are only showing ONE SIDE OF EACH STREET. That makes them cliffs not canyons. Anyone familiar with Toronto will agree with this.

The other side of the street of every example you show is either lower rise, spartan, empty lots or full of setbacks. Those are all great examples of Toronto's development... but not of canyons. Please photograph from the centerline of those same streets, showing both sides, so the rest of Canada can be the judge.

Just keepin' it real. Don't take it personally. You didn't build the stuff.

ok guy, its on.

I'll do a hardcore canyon update tomorrow.

I'm gonna bring pain.

+1 I'd like to see more of these.

heres one of toronto, not sure what street this is though lol (taken by me last summer)

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-...91731_5816.jpg

Big canyons, little canyons; old canyons, new canyons; boring canyons, beautiful canyons; canyons downtown, canyons in the suburbs...plenty of canyons in Toronto to go around.

King St.
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/4430/96933537.jpg

Bay St.
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7801/100cc.jpg

York St.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/10/136zm.jpg

Yonge St.
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7233/138nu.jpg

Richmond St.
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/7673/135zl.jpg

Carlton St.
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9659/139ibm.jpg

Victoria St.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3139/137fv.jpg

Wellington St.
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8958/43762182.jpg

Bloor St.
http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3962/140qk.jpg

Piper St.
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/2835/88390649.jpg

University Ave.
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/5991/141oj.jpg

etc.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/330/alexanderal2.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3102/...f626e80f_o.jpg

those toronto pics look like canyons to me

The best "canyons" in Montreal are probably in old Montreal


St Jacques

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/8372/stjak.png

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/748/stjak2.png


Notre-Dame

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9927/ntrdam2.png

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6483/notredam.png


McGill

http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/1731/mcgil1.png

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3791/mcgil2.png



St Paul

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/927/stpaul2.png

New York
http://www.planetside.co.uk/terragen...canyon_v04.jpg

Toronto
http://plantandsoil.unl.edu/croptech...re-NRCS-LG.jpg

Im gonna punish your foolishness today...

hope it dont rain on me though...

Teehee

:D

:haha:

Woah Winnipeg, New York in disguise!


Somehow I think you are going to bring more embarrassment upon yourself than pain unto us. Actually, having to wade through tens of your pictures of one-sided or incomplete street walls that don't qualify as urban canyons won't be fun...

Thats because I took those pictures before I knew there would be a thread.....

Because of the weather, I will have to stick close to the indoors, but should be able to get some wicked shots of York, Bay and King today. If Im lucky ill sneak down to Queens Quay for the canyon no one here has even posted, and is perhaps the most high and consistant canyon in Toronto at a solid 40 storeys all the way across. This canyon will rain distruction on all wouldbe CANYONS............

I already proved them wrong, but no one seemed to notice :/ (or at least consciously ignored it)

:haha:

I'm glad to see you're not taking this too seriously Cal. Your last few posts sound like you've been stealing lines from WWE wrestlers!!! LOL

Next I suppose you're going to: Bring a world of hurt and go medieval on our asses!


:cheers:

Love those old Mtl canyons.

lol

cal were ignoring cause we allready now torontos got speacly the waterfront :slob:

Old canyons beat new canyons any day of the week.

???

Can anyone translate into modern english please?

Awesome! That's what we were expecting from TO!
I might add 1 or 2 pics for you guys (from 2008)


And MTL's older canyons are also well represented thanks to Darkoshvilli


(special mention to CGY's flickr shots in the first pages)



Does Hamilton have minor canyons to show? Victoria? Halifax? Mississauga? Québec? Burnaby? KW??

Boys and Girls, im on Queens Quay now, and the weather is terribe, but at least its not raining..... its 4.30 eastern time... should have some pictures uploaded by 7.30pm.... maybe some video too..

Hamilton has ripped down too many buildings to have good canyons


http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...arch/00100.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...dsnodds/p1.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...twn/00052a.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...odds/00152.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...amilton/76.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...2008/00361.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...008/00306u.jpg

Here is the first of my pictures from Queens Quay..

Hard as allphuckinghell!!!

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/5338/sany0131.jpg

from king...

http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/7696/sany0108m.jpg

looking down university from the same spot..

http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/3637/sany0109n.jpg

Bay Street.. Breakin'em and Schoolin'em

http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/2669/sany0159f.jpg


I was just walking around and I found this photo....

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5190/sany0115l.jpg

I believe he's telling Caltrane that he (and others) are just ignoring the "Toronto canyon" detractors since he already knows Toronto has canyons, especially on the waterfront.

makes sense to me....

btw: people have more fun with these threads. they are here for your entertainment... don't take it too serious...

...like me :P

Man, you're strict! If you have kids I'm sure they always get their homework done on time. :haha:

As far as the actual "rules" I agree to a point, but I disagree about having consistent height and stretching for many blocks. As long as a section of street is lined with highrises, it should be considered a canyon even if they vary is height. And not all canyons need to be expansive. Short ones can be nice as well. Remember, the rule should be for defining canyons, not NY/Chi caliber canyons in general, which would obviously have much stricter criteria.

Yeah, Traynor's a hardass, but he does good skyscraper renders.. so we let him stick around...