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tim Jan 18, 2005 7:11 PM

Going on at the moment (I am not speaking about future proposals, just what is happening this year).

Jai-C Jan 18, 2005 7:14 PM

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There is no project without the towers, it's just not feasable. That newspaper that is trying to block the project will be forced to accept an offer.
Not so sure about that - there are other projects of that kind(consisting out of a mall and one or more highrises) where they will only build the mall while the tower remains unbuilt.

tim Jan 18, 2005 7:22 PM

But this project will be unfeasable because of the high initial costs for land, demolition, and the costs of reconstruction of that historic palace. The most important part of the project are the towers. They subsidize the mall. Without them this huge project won't be attractive anymore. Apart from that it is only one tower we're speaking about. The hotel tower is not effected at all. Anyway, this doesn't matter because it seems the developer and the newspaper will come to agreement very shortly. A billion dollar project won't die because of a few millions more for a piece of land.

Grumpy Jan 24, 2005 8:13 AM

Is this the final design ?

http://www.deutsches-architektur-for...1fhochvier.JPG

Fabb Jan 24, 2005 10:30 AM

Frankfurthochvier is really beautiful.
I hope it gets built fast.

Samuel Jan 26, 2005 5:05 PM

Yes it's great..
Thx for the list Frankfurter!

Fabb Jan 27, 2005 10:11 AM

I belive there was a proposed building designed by Portzamparc. Any news on that one ?

philter2 Jan 28, 2005 12:04 PM

Allez Frankfurt

Fabb Jan 28, 2005 12:41 PM

http://www.deutsches-architektur-for...4/1Tower24.jpg

It's very beautiful.
How long is the construction supposed to last ?

tim Jan 29, 2005 10:22 PM

until november 2006.


another project for this year:

http://www.fvgffm.de/TRANSITION1.GIF

completion end of 2007



in february two midrise projects start simultaneously - one is the new european headquarters of kia motors and the other one is the european headquarters of hyundai motors. both projects will also be finished simultaneously - right in time for the world cup.


one more thing: the 170m tishman speyer project mentioned by frankfurter
http://hometown.aol.de/FWVONGOETZ/temp/zuerich45.jpg

Fabb Jan 30, 2005 10:47 AM

^ It looks like it was designed in the 70s.

tim Jan 30, 2005 12:45 PM

huh? the towers to the left and right look like they were designes in the 70s but not the tower in center...the 70s aren't exactly famous for stone clad facades...

Miu Jan 31, 2005 6:07 PM


TS Tower will get a sandstone cladding.

http://photos.heremy.com/rfoto/109546746239.jpg

asaco102 Feb 19, 2005 11:50 AM

Is there any hope for "Marieninsel, or not !?
It´s a beautiful proposal, I hope it will start soon, otherways .....

Grumpy Feb 19, 2005 11:17 PM

the sandstone colour will be a lot better than that light yellow.
a good choice and...actually not seen in the entire FFM skyscrapercolours.

btw , Maintriangel is a beauty , I love it !

Fabb Feb 20, 2005 6:15 PM

The spires don't have enough presence.
Recent buildings have set new standards.

tim Mar 9, 2005 7:28 PM

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Originally Posted by asaco102
Is there any hope for "Marieninsel, or not !?
It�s a beautiful proposal, I hope it will start soon, otherways .....

it is a totally new proposal. according to the potential investor something for the year 2010. there is still a lot of time until then ....

asaco102 Mar 15, 2005 6:52 AM

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it is a totally new proposal. according to the potential investor something for the year 2010. there is still a lot of time until then .... [/QUOTE]

IMO, Frankfurt is a dead city. They build some few small buildings. Comparing to Moscow, Paris (Europe), not to mention asian cities, Frankfurt is far away - BEHIND! Unfortunately.

I like Frankfurt, it is my favorite european city!
We need more buildings like Skyper (or "Marieninsel":nuts: )

http://www.abg-gruppe.de/doc/projekte/skyper1.jpg

tim Mar 15, 2005 3:25 PM

what do you mean by dead city? frankfurt may not have as many tall buildings under construction right now as moscow or madrid, but it certainly beats paris (paris only has two or three proposals in total) and most other european cities.

frankfurt has the largest single residential project of europe under construction (16 thousand units in one area), the largest inner city redevelopment project and tons of smaller projects and let's not forget: frankfurt is tiny compared to paris, moscow or the big asian cities...you can't compare a city of 600.000 with a city of 10 million.

asaco102 Mar 16, 2005 7:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tim
what do you mean by dead city? frankfurt may not have as many tall buildings under construction right now as moscow or madrid, but it certainly beats paris (paris only has two or three proposals in total) and most other european cities.

frankfurt has the largest single residential project of europe under construction (16 thousand units in one area), the largest inner city redevelopment project and tons of smaller projects and let's not forget: frankfurt is tiny compared to paris, moscow or the big asian cities...you can't compare a city of 600.000 with a city of 10 million.

Let´s wait. I live 30 km south of Frankfurt, I drive through it two times a day. In the city, behind Deutsche Bank Towers, is some residental building ( 5-6 floors ) under construction. Zeil projekt is also U/C. That´s all I can see. Oh yes, not to forget, Garten Tower next to Main Tower is under reconstruction.
I tell you one more time, I like Frankfurt, but today is just too expensive to build some building here. Just one example:

-1990 Messeturm (257 m) costed cca.240 000 000 Euro ($US319 680 000)
-2005 Skyper (154 m) costed 480 000 000 Euro ($US 639 360 000 )


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