[Dartmouth] The Prince Albert (307 Prince Albert) | ? m | 16 fl | U/C
Brand new proposal for the corner of Prince Albert Road and Glenwood Avenue in Dartmouth just next to Lake Banook.
Case 16898 Details |
Map - 307 Prince Albert Road for Case 16898.
Here is the rendering. It looks quite good but since this is so close to Lake Banook and requires rezoning, I imagine that it could take years to go through. http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/594...albertroad.jpg |
This looks good. A great place for more density. Is it within the height restricted area for the lake? I haven't had a chance to read the DA yet.
Here are the other two renderings. http://inlinethumb43.webshots.com/45...600x600Q85.jpg http://inlinethumb07.webshots.com/47...600x600Q85.jpg |
Dartmouth is on a roll
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It fits nicely. I like the shot with the Horizon Towers on the...well Horizon
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This looks like a pretty good development - hope this goes ahead!
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I love it... I think something like this downtown would work well.
How long before the public outcry? I bet it will start right around the time when the public process starts. |
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Some aspects of the design, such as the little arched window a few floors above the main entrance, are very awkward. Cartoon architecture that reminds me of tilt-up suburban furniture stores.
It could be okay with some modification (I like some other elements like the curved balconies and upper cornice) but I'm not sure there are many other buildings for it to relate to in this area. Basically I suspect that it will be a vertical subdivison, at least until more infill happens nearby. |
I had assumed this was going on the site of the former Ultramar gas station. But I drove by there yesterday and #307 is not that site. In fact there is a building already standing on #307. If you are travelling up Prince Albert Road there are the condos, the former Ultramar site, a strip mall with a Robins Donuts and a couple of other shops, and then #307. If the address is in fact #307 then it is well-removed from the lake and there should realistically be no wind issues.
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It seems to be the right location. Here is the site plan and the Map - 307 Prince Albert Road
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The former Ultramar site is quite large. I wonder if anything is being planned for that? |
The lake does have a strict boundary around it for height limits. I know UGs YMCA falls within these, but they have done lots of wind studies to ensure nothing impedes the course. I'm pretty sure the development that was proposed a few years back for the Paddlers Cove site almost across the street from this was turned down because of wind impacts. I'm pretty sure the Ultramar site falls within those boundaries as well.
As far as density goes though, I think this is a great site for it. It's only about 20 mins walk to the ferry, there is a bus route or two along Prince Albert, and there is a grocery store directly across the street. |
I fail to see how any wind effects from this site could affect the lake. It is on the opposite side of the road, and is separated from the lake not only by the road but a number of other buildings.
I don't know if there is transit service on Prince Albert Rd - if not, that is quite a hike to the ferry or anywhere else. |
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But I agree with you - its doubtful there would be any significant effects on the lake. |
Fellow developer backs highrise plan
94-unit building among four planned for area By CHRIS LAMBIE Business Editor ADEVELOPER plans to build a 15-storey apartment building in the Lake Banook area of Dartmouth. Monaco Investments Ltd. , headed by Tony Maskine, plans to build the 94-unit structure on a site now occupied by a funeral home. Property records show Monaco bought 307 Prince Albert Rd. last spring from Granville Developments Inc. , which is headed by James Ross, getting a $448,000 mortgage from the Bank of Montreal to finance the purchase. “I think it would be pretty good improvement for the neighbourhood," said Bob Yuille, who heads Yuille Auto Works , which is beside the site of the proposed apartment complex. “If the renderings are any indication of what’s to come, I’d have no objection to something of that quality and standard being next door to me, that’s for sure." Maskine could not be reached Monday for comment. “This guy doesn’t seem to be pinching any pennies in what he’s proposing for the property," said Yuille, who has discussed the proposal with the developer. “It’s probably going to be in the $20 million to $30 million range, I’m sure." Some Glenwood Avenue residents have expressed concerns about the increase in traffic the building would bring, he said. “But I don’t think 94 cars makes much of a difference," Yuille said, noting that the planned building will be aimed at seniors who likely won’t be driving a lot during peak traffic times. “They’re looking for retirees more than anything." Donald K. Walker Funeral Directors is still on the site, Yuille said. “For a funeral home, they weren’t that active for the last couple of years." The proposed apartment building’s design is “pretty impressive," he said. Yuille has been doing business in the area since 1986. Since the Keddy’s Motel on Prince Albert Road was torn down just over a decade ago and replaced by an Atlantic Superstore , he said the area seems cleaner and crimefree. “It’s really helped the neighbourhood along," he said of the grocery store addition. “We used to have a lot of vandalism in this area with the cars and stuff like that. We don’t have any (of that) anymore." Monaco is now applying to Halifax Regional Municipality to rezone the land where it wants to build. The property, which also borders on Glenwood Avenue, is deemed general commercial and two-unit residential. But the developer wants to change that to high-density residential. “Three-quarters of the units are two-bedroom units, with the remainder as mainly one-bedroom units," said an overview of the project on the municipality’s website. “Three levels of underground garage, with 130 parking spaces in total, are included, with eight surface parking spaces located outside. Existing mature trees on the site are to be retained." A public information meeting on the project is slated for May 4 at 7 p.m. at Alderney School. The area could be growing, with United Gulf Developments Ltd. proposing two 17-storey condominium towers on the former Dartmouth YMCA site near Lake Banook. The municipal planning strategy capped building heights in the area at 10.5 metres in 2005, meaning the developer would need to get an amendment to build the towers. And Yuille is planning a condominium project of his own on Prince Albert Road, on a 1.2-hectare property at the Bartlin Road intersection, between NAPA Auto Parts and the school. “I have a development agreement in place," he said. “I’m just waiting on a sale of a property fromHRM. . . . It could be any day now. They’re just working out some details on how to sell it to me and give me the frontage I require." The 14-storey, 84-unit building would likely cost more than $20 million to build, said Yuille, who also heads Twin Lakes Development Ltd. Height restrictions that could hamper the United Gulf proposal don’t affect properties on the south side of Prince Albert, he said. “There’s a height restriction zone that runs straight up Prince Albert Road." Yuille, 62, said he may not build the condominium project himself. “I’m getting too old. I could sell the agreement and property to somebody who may be interested." (clambie@herald.ca) It's nice to see an article with a positive slant on a building from the Herald. And it clears up the issue of the height limit too. |
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Given the site alignment for the building, sun and wind for the lake shouldn't be an issue. |
If you like it speak up
Agreed - wind is a widely over rated non-issue.
Agreed - the building looks great. If the city doesn't get more projects like this it will continue to decay while the suburbs grow. Just look at what's happening to city churches and schools - they're being run down and sold off. Property taxes will also increase without redevelopment of urban communities. If my parents sell their home and want a place to live as they get older, I don't want to ship them off to some building in the suburbs. I plan to attend the public hearing and speak up for this development - I encourage others to do the same. cheers ... |
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