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Berklon Feb 19, 2020 2:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8835188)
This thread is about Canadian sports so the XFL talk will have to die down, but as a note on this Tampa is only selling 27K tickets for their first game this weekend. I imagine Seattle has a similar limit (or at least, initial limiting).

I always assumed it was sports attendance, marketing and TV ratings in Canada - not that the sport itself is necessarily Canadian. Isn't the thread title just taken from the now defunct weekly Yahoo article "The Great Canadian Ratings Report" - which gave ratings for sports televised in Canada?

Of course, we haven't talked about XFL ratings in Canada - so I guess we're off topic. So, I'll ask - how's the TV ratings for the XFL in Canada? ;)

Yea, I figured these teams would limit their ticket sales - so all the fans are gathered closer together and it doesn't look as bad... but they're still playing in a stadium much too large for their needs. If they have any hope of surviving, they'll need to improve the game atmosphere by trying to piggy-back off an existing smaller stadium - like an MLS stadium.

Djeffery Feb 19, 2020 4:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Berklon (Post 8835254)
I always assumed it was sports attendance, marketing and TV ratings in Canada - not that the sport itself is necessarily Canadian. Isn't the thread title just taken from the now defunct weekly Yahoo article "The Great Canadian Ratings Report" - which gave ratings for sports televised in Canada?

Of course, we haven't talked about XFL ratings in Canada - so I guess we're off topic. So, I'll ask - how's the TV ratings for the XFL in Canada? ;)

Yea, I figured these teams would limit their ticket sales - so all the fans are gathered closer together and it doesn't look as bad... but they're still playing in a stadium much too large for their needs. If they have any hope of surviving, they'll need to improve the game atmosphere by trying to piggy-back off an existing smaller stadium - like an MLS stadium.

I think that the use of NFL stadiums in Seattle, St Louis (well, former NFL there), New York and Tampa is simply lack of a suitable smaller stadium. Seattle's MLS team plays in the NFL stadium. The MLS stadium in New Jersey would need significant renovations to expand the field for football. Red Bull probably doesn't want to mess with their jewel and probably doesn't feel the money spent to renovate would be worth it anyway. LA is using the MLS stadium that the Chargers just finished using for the last few seasons. Washington is also using an MLS stadium. St Louis and Tampa don't have MLS. Houston looked at the MLS stadium but chose the 40k college stadium because they hope to need the seats. Dallas probably thought the same thing, that the MLS stadium would be too small. They were probably made a deal to use the former baseball stadium which the city planned to keep anyway (where else besides Dallas would you have 3 large stadiums in the same place lol).

Acajack Feb 19, 2020 9:28 PM

Montreal Impact expecting 25-35k at the Big O for Concacaf Champions League game vs Saprissa of Costa Rica next week.

Blue Jays exhibition game tickets are a tough sell in Montréal this year. Only 26k sold so far for both games.

esquire Feb 19, 2020 9:37 PM

^ You can only sustain the novelty of highly priced exhibition games for so long. I remember the first couple NHL preseason games at the then-new MTS Centre were sellouts. But after a couple of years people wised up to the fact that the Tampa Bay Lightning, Arizona Coyotes and the like were lining their pocketbooks with overpriced exhibition games and attendance dropped off.

thurmas Feb 19, 2020 9:46 PM

Baseball is a dying sport not very surprising also the Jays are not expected to be that good this year and the cache of the annual Jays game has lost its luster as it is being done too many times similar to the NHL outdoor games every year.

VANRIDERFAN Feb 19, 2020 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 8835352)
I think that the use of NFL stadiums in Seattle, St Louis (well, former NFL there), New York and Tampa is simply lack of a suitable smaller stadium. Seattle's MLS team plays in the NFL stadium. The MLS stadium in New Jersey would need significant renovations to expand the field for football. Red Bull probably doesn't want to mess with their jewel and probably doesn't feel the money spent to renovate would be worth it anyway. LA is using the MLS stadium that the Chargers just finished using for the last few seasons. Washington is also using an MLS stadium. St Louis and Tampa don't have MLS. Houston looked at the MLS stadium but chose the 40k college stadium because they hope to need the seats. Dallas probably thought the same thing, that the MLS stadium would be too small. They were probably made a deal to use the former baseball stadium which the city planned to keep anyway (where else besides Dallas would you have 3 large stadiums in the same place lol).

The XFL field size is the same as the NFL. It'll easily fit inside a soccer pitch.

jonny24 Feb 20, 2020 1:50 PM

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Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN (Post 8836168)
The XFL field size is the same as the NFL. It'll easily fit inside a soccer pitch.

Length might be a problem? 100 yards plus 10 yard end zones is 120 total, and I think soccer is 100 or 105 (not sure metres or yards?).

Hackslack Feb 20, 2020 3:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jonny24 (Post 8836720)
Length might be a problem? 100 yards plus 10 yard end zones is 120 total, and I think soccer is 100 or 105 (not sure metres or yards?).

A soccer field is basically 110 yards long. I know this because of the permanent soccer field markings the field at McMahon

jonny24 Feb 21, 2020 12:47 PM

It's already out there since the season has started, but here's the official release announcing the Toronto Arrows partnering with TSN to broadcast games this year:

https://torontoarrows.com/2020/02/20...media-partner/

JHikka Feb 21, 2020 6:11 PM

TSN has picked up WTA rights from DAZN.

Guess they got tired of their twitter being inundated every tournament by people asking why they weren't showing matches :haha:

thurmas Feb 21, 2020 10:39 PM

I keep encountering so many Jet season ticket holders trying to dump tickets this whole season 2 more times this week at work alone. They just find it way too expensive for booze, food, parking and possible meal before the game. Many have told me they don't even want to see the Jets make the playoffs this season if they are only an 8 seed as they would likely lose in the first round and playoff games are even more expensive. Will not be surprised if Blue Bomber games become the more in thing to do this summer coming off the Grey Cup win, the rapid transit line to the stadium opening this year and the Bombers re-signing Jefferson and Collaros.

Andy6 Feb 21, 2020 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8838254)
TSN has picked up WTA rights from DAZN.

Guess they got tired of their twitter being inundated every tournament by people asking why they weren't showing matches :haha:

The “You’ve got five channels and you can’t even put XXX on one of them” people? As though TV networks just randomly send a guy with a camera to whatever event they feel like showing.

Berklon Feb 22, 2020 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Andy6 (Post 8838678)
The “You’ve got five channels and you can’t even put XXX on one of them” people? As though TV networks just randomly send a guy with a camera to whatever event they feel like showing.

They have unrealistic expectations - no sports channel is going to air porn.

Djeffery Feb 22, 2020 2:07 AM

Bit of twitter storm brewing today over the decision by Rogers to black out Jays games in Canada on the mlb.tv app. Many people bought that for access since they didn't have a TV package, and liked the access to all the other games. Rogers is trying now to push those people to either get a TV package, or to subscribe to Sportsnet Now. I think what's more likely to happen is a large percentage of those people just turning to illegal feeds.

JHikka Feb 22, 2020 1:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 8838798)
Bit of twitter storm brewing today over the decision by Rogers to black out Jays games in Canada on the mlb.tv app. Many people bought that for access since they didn't have a TV package, and liked the access to all the other games. Rogers is trying now to push those people to either get a TV package, or to subscribe to Sportsnet Now. I think what's more likely to happen is a large percentage of those people just turning to illegal feeds.

Like they did beforehand anyway, yeah.

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Originally Posted by Berklon
They have unrealistic expectations - no sports channel is going to air porn.

TSN at one point in recent history aired a show about the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders and their calendar shoot. Not far off.

elly63 Feb 22, 2020 7:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Berklon (Post 8838737)
They have unrealistic expectations - no sports channel is going to air porn.

I believe he was referring to the distillation of corn liquor.

Andy6 Feb 22, 2020 8:05 PM

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Originally Posted by elly63 (Post 8839187)
I believe he was referring to the distillation of corn liquor.

Yes, I thought that was obvious.

thurmas Mar 7, 2020 1:32 AM

Vanier Cup 2020 still does not have a home to host this year's CIS football biggest game which is a real shame in how the game has been so shabbily treated by CIS. It used to draw over 30,000 fans like the 2011 classic in Vancouver and now it only draws what 8400 in Quebec City really sad and the TV coverage or lack thereof that CIS football has now is pathetic. I urge Wade Miller and the Blue Bombers to team up with the Manitoba Bisons and host this game at IG field as it is very cheap to get the game rights and would be great for Manitoba and Western Canada to host a Vanier Cup.

https://3downnation.com/2020/03/05/v...-home-in-2020/

EpicPonyTime Mar 7, 2020 2:58 AM

Quebec City doesn't have a 30K seating stadium, but unfortunately the 8K from last year is what happens when you routinely go to the same cities over and over. The appeal of the game washes off even if Laval's football program is the most popular in the country.

I don't see why it would be an impossibility to host it in Regina, which should always have been the plan from the start. At this point, just put it somewhere, and then tie it to the Grey Cup starting next year.

Acajack Mar 7, 2020 1:42 PM

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Originally Posted by thurmas (Post 8853666)
Vanier Cup 2020 still does not have a home to host this year's CIS football biggest game which is a real shame in how the game has been so shabbily treated by CIS. It used to draw over 30,000 fans like the 2011 classic in Vancouver and now it only draws what 8400 in Quebec City really sad and the TV coverage or lack thereof that CIS football has now is pathetic. I urge Wade Miller and the Blue Bombers to team up with the Manitoba Bisons and host this game at IG field as it is very cheap to get the game rights and would be great for Manitoba and Western Canada to host a Vanier Cup.

https://3downnation.com/2020/03/05/v...-home-in-2020/

How telling.


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