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From what I understand he got in trouble for one of his tirades and then made things worse by cursing you out via private chat. For that he definitely needs to apoligize, but why the 6 months if that just means this forum will be worse off in the meantime. Not many people here spend their time digging through permits and all the stuff 1487 did to routinely provide good information. As his ebuilder persona he seemed to tame his more harsh persona. Can't he just be sentenced to time served if he apologizes and promises to be on good behavior? #free1487 |
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+1 as well
I think that if 1487 apologizes personally to you, he should be allowed to return on another second chance. That's the policy on some other forums. However, should he misbehave again, there should be no second chances. |
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I like to hear a wide variety of opinions, so in that sense I'm aware of one less voice in the crowd. But after the first comment that 1487 would make the arguments, often with me, myself and I, were painful (and often so ridiculous that I couldn't stop myself from taking the bait). So I guess I'm neutral. There's no reason if he did come back that he couldn't be banned yet again if it was called for |
Sorry for dragging this discussion on further but:
I've been on this forum for more than a decade and rejoing under a different username always has been, and always will be rewarded with a 1-way express ticket to the most perma of bans. |
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For context: There was a user in the New York forums known as "RobertWalpole" who posted a bunch of good stuff but also made himself a pain in the ass with moderation, especially for his constant Chicago-bashing. He was permabanned around 2013. Recently staff found he had been posting under a new account and permabanned him again. There was another user in the SF forums, "BTinSF", who was much the same way -- informative but trollish and hyper-abrasive. He got permabanned ... I want to say around 2010? About a year ago, though, he finally caved and apologized to moderation and is currently the user "Pedestrian". Users like these are by far the most difficult to moderate because they often find themselves receiving new warnings right about when previous warnings decay and fall off, which means they're already walking a fine line with moderation to begin with, because they don't really let us mods completely forget about stuff that they've done in the past to merit warnings. 1487 had something like half a dozen warnings and was on his second suspension, each time because his trolly side had gotten out of hand. But once you're banned, that's it. Coming back from one is more like a third chance, because you get a shit ton of second chances with moderation before we pull the trigger. |
Is there a forum troll 12-step program?
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Old City
Haven't been able to get to Old City in a while, but found this IG account with tons of updates:
The National - 209 N. 2nd https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...45457664_n.jpg 222 Vine St. https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...54234880_n.jpg 218 Vine St. https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...30364672_n.jpg 4th and Race Sts. https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...03235840_n.jpg 300 Market and 302 Market https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...96702464_n.jpg https://scontent-iad3-1.cdninstagram...81631232_n.jpg See more @phillyrises https://www.instagram.com/phillyrises/?hl=en |
Construction near Girard and Front collapsed in the wind. Was apparently supposed to be a six story apartment building.
https://i.imgur.com/EUeWQ5f.jpg https://i.imgur.com/hdjN5y7.jpg |
there's obliviously a few souls who continue to post here about buildings; couldn't someone start a special thread for that purpose so the rest of us can continue our nonstop discussion about 1487? Its quite disconcerting to have a perfectly good stream of rants interrupted by some photos of a building under construction. Don't we have rules to cover this sort of misbehavior? I think warnings should be issued, and maybe a few forced vacations handed out. Now back to the important issues-----just who is this 1487 guy/girl, and where did that handle come from. Maybe every so often he/she could be invited to give a special one time posting, like once a month or week, with no rights for any come backs. Or maybe we could have a 1487 boilerplate that once every 25 enters would be posted, "you just don't understand, its not the job of the gov't to----------". There should be creative solutions to this dilemma.
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Apologies for interpreting the Great 1497 debate of 2018, but I just saw this:
Wells Fargo Center renovations to eliminate some luxury boxes, add seats https://philly.curbed.com/2018/3/5/1...er-renovations Lots going on around the stadiums with the casino possibly coming online and the sports museum coming on line. I know there's speculation that the Sixers might try and move to Camden after their contract is up with the Center now that they're no longer owned by Comcast and Harris likely wanting to steal state monies for his own building, but any thoughts on if the activity going on in South Philly - such as these facility upgrades - could impact an attempt to move? I'm in the camp of all pro sports in one place is best - basketball included. I don't want them at 8th & Market, Schuylkill Yards and especially not Camden (not to hate on Jersey, but there's a mental barrier and an extra toll fee). |
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The article did say that the facility was getting long on the tooth and needed the upgrade. The arena was opened in 1996, so it's over 20 years old. It went into some details of where the money will be spent, but to me, it didn't seem like that would be $250 million. You can buy a lot with $250 million, and since Comcast Spectacor didn't want to tear the existing building down to build a new one, I hope they get a lot for that money. Maybe Philly.com will follow up with the article and provide rendering once they become available of all the new upgrades. |
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There is a site in Japan I believe in which they build a temple, use it for 20 years or so, then build its replacement directly across the street, use that for 20 years or so, tear the first one down and build a new one, etc., on approximately a 20 year cycle. Since the Spectrum site is still open, they should consider doing the same, building a new arena, but keep the old one around for a few years as they did with the Spectrum, put concerts, a minor league hockey team, lacrosse, etc in there while using the new arena for the major league teams and major events. They said they considered a complete rebuild and that it would cost 3x as much as this renovation, but they could get a lot of that money back by keeping the current arena active and have 2 arenas, as they did for a while with the Spectrum. They should never have torn that down, unless building and rebuilding on the 20 year cycle. |
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Harris is a billionaire distressed asset guy. The Sixers are already worth at least 3-5 times what he paid for them. The thinking is he will eventually leverage the first run of success the Sixers have to squeeze out some government funding for an arena and then turn around and sell for massive profit. Most of this is just rumors and speculation, though there is enough consistency regarding these rumors that it seems likely there is at least a sliver of truth to them. |
What's next with for $250M Wells Fargo Center renovation project
https://www.bizjournals.com/philadel...concourse.html Excerpt from the linked article: Next up will be entirely new mezzanine level, which accommodates about 40 percent of the arena's total capacity. The project, expected to be completed in the fall, will include: Open-concept concourses featuring views of Philadelphia's skyline, More than 150 new LED game-action screens, menu boards and illumination technology, delivering a complete visual transformation, Expanded food and beverage locations and offerings, and 8,000 brand new seats with cup holders. |
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Initial renovations started in 2016 after it hosted the DNC.
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