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staplesla Dec 14, 2012 10:09 PM

Giant Vertical Farm Could Supply 10% of San Diego's Produce
 
Brandon Martella's design for a proposed skyscraper in downtown San Diego has apartments on one side, and veggies on the other. Produce would be sold in an open-air market downstairs.

http://www.brandonmartella.net/p/live-share-grow.html


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dWz4hr_LEm...n+exposure.png

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mongoXZ Dec 14, 2012 11:37 PM

Dude, build it. Screw whatever BOSA box that's proposed over in that lot.

Dale Dec 14, 2012 11:52 PM

Wait, so they would need to acquire the lot from Bosa ?

spoonman Dec 15, 2012 12:53 AM

This architect does some amazing renderings. This is what we need to stand out from other cities

Here's another one proposed for the Newschool of Architecture

http://www.brandonmartella.net/p/3-block.html

staplesla Dec 15, 2012 1:14 AM

Site between One America Plaza and Emerald Plaza
 
The site is located in the Columbia district of downtown San Diego. It is sandwiched between two large commercial office buildings, One America Plaza and Emerald Plaza.

http://www.brandonmartella.net/p/farmed-services.html

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HurricaneHugo Dec 15, 2012 3:44 AM

Great idea!

The first design looks ugly but the second one looks gorgeous!

Make it bigger and maybe move it to another lot since that one might be too small and build it!

phillyskyline Dec 15, 2012 3:54 AM

Stunning and beautiful!

staplesla Dec 15, 2012 8:38 PM

MTS' 2050 Visionary Rail Plan
 
http://www.sandiegorailproject.com/


PDF Version


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HurricaneHugo Dec 16, 2012 2:59 AM

#6 needs to be build like yesterday

JG573 Dec 16, 2012 6:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerogt3 (Post 5928920)
This anti-car mentality is pointless. Socal and public transit are incompatible - the population density doesn't support it, and in 10-20 years pollution from cars will be a non-issue anyways. Opponents want to have rail expansion instead of widening I5. Who would ever take that? Once you get to OC/LA, you're going to be stuck without a car.

Trying to make socal mass transit based is as stupid as making New York or London car based.

The problem with this is we are trying to shape our cities for the future not think short term by just widening the I5. Your whole argument is basically that LA doesn't have the density right now so lets just stay on the same path and support cars. No, they are trying to shape LA into a more denser place in the future which starts with investing in rail transit and to encourage infill and transit oriented development.

I agree that right now LA is not the densest right now compared to cities like new york but like San Diego the people are trying to put our city on a denser, livable, more transit oriented city and to say f**k it just keep supporting more cars is not the right way to go for San Diego or LA.

bobbyv Dec 16, 2012 7:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG573 (Post 5939808)
The problem with this is we are trying to shape our cities for the future not think short term by just widening the I5. Your whole argument is basically that LA doesn't have the density right now so lets just stay on the same path and support cars. No, they are trying to shape LA into a more denser place in the future which starts with investing in rail transit and to encourage infill and transit oriented development.

I agree that right now LA is not the densest right now compared to cities like new york but like San Diego the people are trying to put our city on a denser, livable, more transit oriented city and to say f**k it just keep supporting more cars is not the right way to go for San Diego or LA.

Actually LA is the second densest city after NYC, don't let the 470 sq miles fool you.

Valyrian Steel Dec 16, 2012 7:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG573 (Post 5939808)
The problem with this is we are trying to shape our cities for the future not think short term by just widening the I5. Your whole argument is basically that LA doesn't have the density right now so lets just stay on the same path and support cars. No, they are trying to shape LA into a more denser place in the future which starts with investing in rail transit and to encourage infill and transit oriented development.

I agree that right now LA is not the densest right now compared to cities like new york but like San Diego the people are trying to put our city on a denser, livable, more transit oriented city and to say f**k it just keep supporting more cars is not the right way to go for San Diego or LA.

Agreed. People will adapt to public transit. Widening freeways doesn't reduce traffic, it only encourages more people to drive on it. And when there's an accident, you'll still be there for 3 hours trying to merge into the right lane.

From someone who enjoys driving, I like having alternative ways to get around.

Derek Dec 16, 2012 7:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pink Floyd (Post 5939862)
Agreed. People will adapt to public transit. Widening freeways doesn't reduce traffic, it only encourages more people to drive on it. And when there's an accident, you'll still be there for 3 hours trying to merge into the right lane.

From someone who enjoys driving, I like having alternative ways to get around.



I couldn't have said it better myself.

kpexpress Dec 16, 2012 9:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staplesla (Post 5938308)
Brandon Martella's design for a proposed skyscraper in downtown San Diego has apartments on one side, and veggies on the other. Produce would be sold in an open-air market downstairs.

http://www.brandonmartella.net/p/live-share-grow.html


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-dWz4hr_LEm...n+exposure.png

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-q9NiSybHW_...s1600/site.png

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Cd1mfPP--e...al+context.png

Martella graduated with me. All of his renderings were great...models were better if you could imagine.

spoonman Dec 16, 2012 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpexpress (Post 5939896)
Martella graduated with me. All of his renderings were great...models were better if you could imagine.

It would be great if Bosa could pick up on this and get it to pencil out.

XtremeDave Dec 18, 2012 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JG573 (Post 5939808)
The problem with this is we are trying to shape our cities for the future not think short term by just widening the I5. Your whole argument is basically that LA doesn't have the density right now so lets just stay on the same path and support cars. No, they are trying to shape LA into a more denser place in the future which starts with investing in rail transit and to encourage infill and transit oriented development.

I agree that right now LA is not the densest right now compared to cities like new york but like San Diego the people are trying to put our city on a denser, livable, more transit oriented city and to say f**k it just keep supporting more cars is not the right way to go for San Diego or LA.

Exactly. San Diego or LA will never have the transit service of New York or any East Coast city, and I'm not expecting a subway to Rancho Bernardo anytime soon, but this is about future growth, and where this region is going to channel the growth through its infrastructure spending. Are we going to widen I-5 and continue to fill in every empty acre of land from Tijuana to Temecula with auto-dependent subdivisions just because that's what we did yesterday? Or are we going to make investments that encourage people to live in denser, walkable neighborhoods while giving them the option to not have to drive to every destination?

Building more trolley lines to San Diego's densest, most walkable neighborhoods (specifically along El Cajon Blvd and University Ave, plus lines out to PB and OB) will allow this region to change its sprawling habits for the future and allow future residents to live without being reliant on a car for every trip. Upgrading the Coaster to provide regular reliable service (atleast 20 min frequencies both ways during peak times, 30 min off-peak) will open up places like Solana Beach, Encinitas and Carlsbad to transit oriented development that will give new suburban commuters a real alternative to I-5.

San Diego can either embrace these choices to create a real alternative to the mess that currently exists (just try and get on the 5 or 805 during rush hour in Sorrento Valley and argue against me on this), or people here will continue to suffer with congestion while billions are spent to sustain the status quo.

SDfan Dec 26, 2012 4:38 AM

Merry Christmas!

SDCAL Dec 30, 2012 8:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5939663)
#6 needs to be build like yesterday

EXACTLY, couldn't agree more.

SDCAL Dec 30, 2012 8:32 PM

Martella's vertical farm plan is awesome, and exactly what SD needs.

He illustrates that even with height limits, original, interesting, iconic development that could grab international attention is possible.

And maybe it's bold enough to give all the NIMBY's heart attacks so we don't have to worry about them whining about it. :). (Kidding of course).

SDCAL Dec 30, 2012 9:00 PM

Anyone know the timing of this project on 10th Ave. next to Basic near the ballpark? I took the below photos from the balcony of a friend's condo across the street - - looks like they are close to breaking ground.

According to CCDC website it's going to be rentals called Urbana

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4f9ceb39.jpg

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http://www.ccdc.com/component/conten...63-urbana.html

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