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For the NE, Boston is a solid contender. DC as “second city” isn’t clear cut. Also for the west coast, I think the Bay Area is really giving metro LA a run for its money. I mean, I know LA has more people, but in most other metrics the Bay Area is becoming just as prominent. |
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I meant the Fed Capital - not the feel Capitol Hit the submit button too soon.
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States with one dominant big city:
Alabama: Birmingham Arizona: Phoenix Colorado: Denver Georgia: Atlanta Illinois: Chicago Louisiana: NO Maryland: Baltimore Massachusetts: Boston Minnesota: Twin Cities Michigan: Detroit Oregon: Portland New York: NYC Washington: Seattle States with 2 big cities domination debatable: Tennessee Oklahoma Missouri Pennsylvania States with multiple big cities, domination debatable: California Florida Ohio Texas |
In Canada, I can think of three provinces where it's debatable as well.
Saskatchewan, New Brunswick, and Alberta. Right or wrong, but when I personally think of the dominant city for each of these provinces, I automatically go to Regina, Fredericton and Edmonton. Maybe because they are all provincial capitals, and in Edmonton's case having that Gretsky/Oilers sports legacy. |
Alabama also has Mobile, Montgomery and Huntsville which each are roughly 1/3rd the size of Birmingham. About the same as Pittsburgh to Philly
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And while NYC is obviously NYS dominant city, it's even moreso NJ's dominant city, as a higher share of NJ's population and economy is in the NYC metro. |
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NB sort of feels a bit more like many states who pick the capitol solely on location more than practicality. Saint John should have been the capital, of this there is no doubt. As it is Fredericton has been growing at a faster pace and may even overtake Saint John's population at some point. Perhaps on a national stage Fredericton seems more influential, but locally Saint John is still the economic engine of the province, and has WAY cooler bones. |
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Hawai'i: Honolulu Indiana: Indianapolis Kentucky: Louisville Nevada: Las Vegas Rhode Island: Providence Utah: SLC Wisconsin: Milwaukee |
Canada: Montreal
British Columbia: Victoria (strong #2 and a relevant centre) Alberta: Red Deer or Lethbridge (assuming Calgary and Edmonton are 1a and 1b) Saskatchewan: Prince Albert (assuming Saskatoon and Regina are 1a and 1b) Manitoba: Brandon (strong #2, but far far behind Winnipeg) Ontario: Ottawa (strong #2, but in unique position as federal capital) Quebec: Quebec City (strong #2, relevant centre) New Brunswick: Saint John? (as a total outsider, Moncton, Saint John, and Fredericton are all close enough that it feels like it could be a 1a, 1b, and 1c type of thing) PEI: Summerside Nova Scotia: Sydney? Newfoundland and Labrador: Corner Brook (far far behind St. John's) Yukon: Dawson City (strong #2) Northwest Territories: Hay River/Inuvik Nunavut: Rankin Inlet/Arviat? Metro Vancouver bonus: Surrey (strong #2 after Vancouver) This would be fun to split into a tier system in a spreadsheet sometime. |
The original question about “second cities” was also about influence. This has always been a tricky issue. For example, growing up in NE Iowa, the nearest big city was Minn-SP, nonetheless the city of “influence” was Des Moines probably because it was the capital and the home of the daily newspaper that we read. However, the city to visit was always Chicago, the twin-cities just didn’t register. Similarly, living for some 20 years in Baltimore, we always looked to NYC as the place to go, bypassing Philly on the way. We probably went to NYC twice a year, DC occasionally (mainly if visitors from overseas wanted to see the Capital – and I usually just took them to the train and told them to enjoy the day), and Philly maybe 2 or 3 times in the 20 years. Obviously this is a personal reflection, and unfair to the wealth of things to see in D.C. and Philly, but it represents our experience. Today, some people commute from Baltimore to DC to work.
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I would also include North Carolina in the domination debatable category. Charlotte dominates as a city, but by metro area Raleigh is very close on many metrics. |
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And even in places with second cities, it's possible for that role to mean less. As an example, I'll use the provinces of BC and Manitoba, both of which have clear second cities as well as dominant first cities that each hold over 50% of the provincial population. In BC, Victoria is a clear second city to Vancouver (metro pop. ~2.5 million), and has a metro population of ~375,000, so it has a decent bit of clout itself, being separated on an island, the provincial capital, and a significant tourism centre. Conversely in Manitoba, Brandon is the clear second city to Winnipeg, but it only has a metro population of about 60,000 people and is only about a 2 hour drive away. So while it does serve as a regional centre in the western part of the province, its orbit is quite limited and it relies a fair bit on Winnipeg still, making it less of a true second influential option and more of the quantitative "second-most populated city" thing. |
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its ridiculous to have the twin cities, yet not have akron/canton with cleveland. it once was, but then that damned national park divider lol. but thats another story. :shrug: |
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