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thenoflyzone Mar 26, 2020 7:34 PM

YYC February 2020 stats are out. The extra day this year wasn't enough to push the month into positive territory.

https://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/fact...tatistics.aspx

Domestic : 880,612 -0.9%
Transborder : 283,135 +3.5%
International : 175,630 -2.3%
Total: 1,339,377 -0.2%

YTD total: 2,673,765 -2.06%

This will be YYC's best month this year, for sure. Hold on to your hats, starting with the next monthly reports, pax stats nationwide will take a huge nosedive.

zahav Mar 26, 2020 7:39 PM

I find it very bizarre that AC is still operating so many flights to the NYC region (LGA and EWR). They cancelled Milan right away when it was flagged as a hotspot, but NYC is now the new global epicentre and getting worse, ye they are keeping flights going? The "mandatory quarantine" on arrival is a joke, if those planes are flying in and out all day back and forth there will be more infections. Seems bizarre to me they cancelled service to cities like Beijing in the beginning, even without there being cases there. Yet NYC is like Wuhan now with their case growth, and they don't seem to care?

TheGreatestX Mar 26, 2020 8:58 PM

Sarnia joins Lethbridge and Medicine Hat in losing AC service permanently.

https://blackburnnews.com/sarnia/sar...s-sarnia-good/

TheGreatestX Mar 26, 2020 9:03 PM

Delta cuts to Canada:

Calgary
Service from Salt Lake City to Calgary suspended as of March 24.
Service from Seattle to Calgary suspended as of March 27.

Montreal
Service from Minneapolis to Montreal suspended as of March 24.
Service from New York-LGA to Montreal suspended as of March 24.
Service from Atlanta to Montreal to suspend as of April 2.

Toronto
Service from Cincinnati to Toronto suspended as of March 24.
Service from Salt Lake City to Toronto suspended as of March 24.
Service from Minneapolis to Toronto suspended as of March 27.

Ottawa
Service from New York-LGA to Ottawa suspended as of March 24.

Vancouver
Service from Atlanta to Vancouver suspended as of March 24.
Service from Minneapolis to Vancouver suspended as of March 27.
Service from Salt Lake City to Vancouver suspended as of March 24.

https://news.delta.com/coronavirus-u...lying-schedule

nname Mar 27, 2020 5:37 AM

China now implement new rules for international flight. Each airline is now limited to operate only 1x weekly flight per country.

This will be the operating plan, effective Mar 29. All route 1x weekly

CA PEK-YUL-HAV
MU PVG-YYZ
CZ CAN-YVR
HU PEK-YYZ
MF XMN-YVR
3U CTU-YVR

Dominion301 Mar 27, 2020 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatestX (Post 8875054)
Sarnia joins Lethbridge and Medicine Hat in losing AC service permanently.

https://blackburnnews.com/sarnia/sar...s-sarnia-good/

Yikes. Unlike the two Alberta cities, Sarnia doesn't yet have WS Link. I would imagine once all this is over and WS' Link East opens that YZR will be on the add list out of the gate.

I wonder if Porter or GTA Express would look at YZR come this fall?

TheGreatestX Mar 27, 2020 6:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname (Post 8875482)
China now implement new rules for international flight. Each airline is now limited to operate only 1x weekly flight per country.

This will be the operating plan, effective Mar 29. All route 1x weekly

CA PEK-YUL-HAV
MU PVG-YYZ
CZ CAN-YVR
HU PEK-YYZ
MF XMN-YVR
3U CTU-YVR

Funny how China had no problem letting its airlines fly all over the world when the epicentre of the pandemic was in China.

esquire Mar 27, 2020 6:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatestX (Post 8875954)
Funny how China had no problem letting its airlines fly all over the world when the epicentre of the pandemic was in China.

Ha. The irony. No doubt the whole issue is in the process of being deflected from a domestic issue to a Huge Threat posed by outsiders.

craneSpotter Mar 27, 2020 9:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGreatestX (Post 8875954)
Funny how China had no problem letting its airlines fly all over the world when the epicentre of the pandemic was in China.

IKR - to think they are doing this because the flights are bringing the virus back into China.

We should have bigger concerns with US and European flights.

Djeffery Mar 27, 2020 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8875693)
Yikes. Unlike the two Alberta cities, Sarnia doesn't yet have WS Link. I would imagine once all this is over and WS' Link East opens that YZR will be on the add list out of the gate.

I wonder if Porter or GTA Express would look at YZR come this fall?

Might depend on what Porter's market research shows for where people from Sarnia are flying to. WS Link would at least connect to Pearson and all that goes with that, compared to just Porter's own network out of YTZ. I think another part of Porter's issue is the size of their aircraft. They used to have a mix of B1900's and DH1's in there, but the number of flights was cut, I think down to 1 a day, on a DH3 and wasn't well sold due to the limited schedule. Don't know what Porter would bring to the table to put a 70 seater in there.

nname Mar 28, 2020 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname (Post 8875482)
China now implement new rules for international flight. Each airline is now limited to operate only 1x weekly flight per country.

This will be the operating plan, effective Mar 29. All route 1x weekly

CA PEK-YUL-HAV
MU PVG-YYZ
CZ CAN-YVR
HU PEK-YYZ
MF XMN-YVR
3U CTU-YVR

Updated, change CA to PEK-YVR

CA PEK-YVR
MU PVG-YYZ
CZ CAN-YVR
HU PEK-YYZ
MF XMN-YVR
3U CTU-YVR

hollywoodcory Mar 28, 2020 12:45 AM

AC has now suspended most of its long hauls until May 31.

WS schedule remains unchanged. LGW suspended until April 20 / CDG April 23. FCO still scheduled to start May 2. Also WestJet's 5th 787 is currently ready for delivery at CHS.

whatnext Mar 28, 2020 1:06 AM

YVR expects this year's traffic to decline to 1995 levels. They are also putting their construction program on hold:

https://vancouversun.com/news/covid-...-d4cfec69b488/

libtard Mar 28, 2020 1:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 8876499)
YVR expects this year's traffic to decline to 1995 levels. They are also putting their construction program on hold:

https://vancouversun.com/news/covid-...-d4cfec69b488/

Kenneth Chan?

whatnext Mar 28, 2020 2:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by libtard (Post 8876518)
Kenneth Chan?

Huh? :shrug:

craneSpotter Mar 28, 2020 4:13 PM

Canadian route updates - foreign carriers Trans-Pacific (of course subject to change):

All Nippon Airways (29Mar - 24Apr):

Tokyo Haneda – Vancouver, 3 weekly 787-9

Air China (29Mar-30Apr):

Beijing Capital – Vancouver, 1 weekly 777-300ER

Beijing Capital – Montreal – Havana, 1 weekly 777-300ER (Havana service restored)

Japan Airlines (29Mar-30Apr):

Tokyo Narita – Vancouver, 2 weekly 767

Philippine Airlines (15Apr-30Apr):

Manila – Toronto, 1 daily 777-300ER

Manila – Vancouver, 1 daily 777-300ER

EDIT (add):

Cathay Pacific (29Mar-31May):

Hong Kong – Vancouver, 2 weekly A350-900XWB (3 weekly from 12MAY20)

thenoflyzone Mar 28, 2020 5:06 PM

Competition Bureau report for AC/TS merger is out. Findings are as expected.

A financial expert reviewed Transat's financials and expected cost-reduction and margin-improvement initiatives and determined that TS is solvent and unlikely to exit the relevant markets in the near term if the merger doesn't happen.

Let's see what Marc Garneau will do with this info.

https://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/...eng/04522.html

Quote:

Overall, Air Canada and Transat account for approximately 60% of non‑stop seat capacity from Canada to Europe, with such share increasing further when considering Air Canada's transatlantic joint venture partners, and approximately 45% of non‑stop capacity from Canada to sun destinations;
The Proposed Transaction is likely to result in substantial competitive effects, such as increased prices, less choice, decrease in service, and a significant reduction in travel by Canadians for air passenger services and vacation packages through the elimination of rivalry between Air Canada and Transat in the areas of overlap between their networks.
Quote:

The Bureau also found that no single carrier or combination of competitors is poised to replace Transat's presence in the markets of concern or its offerings to Canadian travelers.
Quote:

Based upon analysis of facts and information prior to the COVID‑19 pandemic, the Commissioner has determined that the Proposed Transaction is likely to result in substantial anti‑competitive effects through the elimination of rivalry between Air Canada and Transat in the areas of overlap between their networks. In particular, the Proposed Transaction is likely to result in the following if it proceeds in its current contemplated form:

1. a substantial lessening or prevention of competition in the provision of air passenger services or vacation packages on 83 routes between Canada and Europe, Mexico, Central America, the Caribbean, Florida and South America;
2. a merger of the only two carriers offering non‑stop service on 22 of these 83 routes; and
3. a significant reduction in travel by Canadians in the overlap markets

whatnext Mar 28, 2020 5:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8876957)
Competition Bureau report for AC/TS merger is out. Findings are as expected. Let's see what Marc Garneau will do with this info.

https://www.competitionbureau.gc.ca/...eng/04522.html

At this point the Transport Minister would be a fool to do anything that interferes with any of Canada's airlines.

nname Mar 28, 2020 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craneSpotter (Post 8876892)
Air China (29Mar-30Apr):

Beijing Capital – Vancouver, 1 weekly 777-300ER

Beijing Capital – Montreal – Havana, 1 weekly 777-300ER (Havana service restored)

I guess due to the HAV tag, YVR and YUL are actually considered to be in different country. Otherwise CA will need to pick one of the two :D

wave46 Mar 29, 2020 1:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8871863)
Some interesting updates on airlineroute. Starting with AC.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-22mar20/

I don't think Air Canada has such a limited group of international destinations since the 1970s. It's crazy to look at something like Flightradar24 and see how few Canadian-registered aircraft are flying to the US or internationally. We've not even hit bottom yet.

Currently, the most activity is domestic (makes sense given the announcements by airlines) and repatriation flights from Mexico and the Caribbean.

It is nuts to watch in real time.


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