I am posting some shots of the presentation. most have already been posted by NYGuy, but I added some information of what they said in the presentation

Regarding the height of the building, I wouldn't count on that this building has been stretched to 1400 ft, I think it is still at the 1350 ft already projected.
The guy at the presentation said that "our firm is going to join to the skyscraper club and add something this tall, this is approximately fourteen feet tall, it's a bit taller than the ESB" So I think he wast just rounding the height to fourteen hundred feet to indicate it was tall.

Anyway, kind of cool presentation.


A cross section of the bottom of the building

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...0a5fd38154.jpg

The guy said that the east and west facades will be basically punched shear walls, with the walls of the core and two columns on the north and south facades each, completing the structural system. Here's a diagram of it. Bellow, some more floor plan diagrams and a complete floor plan, which the guy said they were still working on it.

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...3369991d3f.jpg

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...90dbc57ca4.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...34fecb1ad9.jpg

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...e0e01381fa.jpg



A diagram of an individual floor cross section. He said that each floor will be 15 ft tall (so similar to 432) with 14 ft free to the ceiling. With some double height duplexes with 28 ft ceilings. (should be 29 ft adding the thickness of the missing slab)
http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...e8692b49ba.jpg






Details of the Facades

North and south facades, as all we know, are going to have those terracota vertical strips. He said that they will be molded so the facades will have some textures and light effects.

Here are drawings of the "movement" of those strips and a mockup of the terracota pieces.

http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...64a90deaa7.jpg

http://img8.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...d09c0a27ed.jpg



For the northern facade, it will be glassy and it will have some horizontal bronze elements between each floor. Those elements will be thicker at the center so it would have the effect that the facade is slightly curved, but in fact it will be flat.

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...2b4736e89e.jpg



For the southern facade, the bronze elements will be vertical, and it will have terraces at the setbacks. Notice the terracota strips protrude about 2 meters above the terrace floor (seen behind the guy standing at the balcony, taht could be misidentified as building). Also do the bronze rails that protrude above the glass railing.

http://img5.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...80caa8ec64.jpg

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuplo...7a5280ba35.jpg

Some more captures of the presentation
One more of a typical floor plan and a mechanical floor plan bellow

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...pscf87023c.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...ps3fbb1ac5.jpg




An upper level floor plan

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...psac8bde90.jpg



The mass damper level floor plan

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...psd2e30008.jpg


An open level floor plan. Made to let the wind flow, there will be two of them as shown in the model at the left.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e9...ps880b0f0e.jpg

So they said approximately 1,400 feet. Excellent!

I'm assuming unfortunately that they didn't show any closeup details of the crown or the buildings lighting scheme.

^ The video is worth the watch.



Yes, it was both informative and entertaining to watch. When this tower is built, SHoP will become the architecture firm in NYC, as if it isn't already.



I love the bronze elements of the façade, along with the terracotta.



Stern also said it would be a 1,400 ft tower. That could also mean it's a bit higher, but I'm sure they are working that out. There are 3 towers, 432 Park, the Nordstrom, and this one, that are pretty close in height. Maybe, like Barnett, they are keeping the exact height unknown as long as they can (building permits don't always give you that), vying for that crown of tallest. Nordstrom is still likely to be the tallest, but you never know what schemes are at work. I still don't know why 432 Park is called "432 Park" when the actual 432 Park is on the next block.

Wired NY has an amazing image of the tower from the East 57th Street perspective.

I don't know if it's from the presentation or not, but it's spectacular.

It isn't.

Not to knock SHoP, but the Barclay's Center plus a 1-2 more projects don't catapult you to the top of the NY architecture world, as much as they would like to think so.

"Top of the architecture world" is something different. But as far as remaking the New York skyline with developments all over the City from Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, and Manhattan, yeah, I would say SHoP is the current "darling" of New York. They are involved in more development than you are aware of apparently.

3.14.14

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7067/1...a37a34bd_b.jpg


Mini excavation has started !
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3711/1...8e319765_b.jpg


Mini excavation equipment has arrived !
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3691/1...0fc971fe_b.jpg

It's a better view...


http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showth...t=6257&page=11


http://upload.pbase.com/image/154870525/original.jpg

Why does he care what they think? I thought they didn't have any actual say.

He doesn't, and they don't.

If you look at the video from the SHoP presentation, they go into detail about how these towers work, why they get built as high as they are, the detail that goes into designing. The question of how high they could build a tower with this footprint was left open, but the bottom lines is these towers are being built as of right, with the exception of the landmarks approval, which was already given in both cases.

This tower is more New York than New York is.

^ That would be a nice idea, a competition to design the most "New York" skyscraper...I know the two I'd pick.


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The juxtaposition of One57 and 111 in that photo is quite interesting. l think it looks great.

Reminds me of an I-beam, with additional columns with to handle the tranverse loads.

There's still the potential for the tower at 31 W. 57th to fill out a portion of that view (to the right)...


http://upload.pbase.com/image/154870525/medium.jpg

You took the words right out of my mouth. I cannot wait until that is reality. It's definitely my favorite angle we've seen so far of 111. After watching some of that presentation, I have a lot more appreciation for the design of the building.

The view from E. 57 is very impressive, but it will probably be quite temporary, with Vornado's 31 W. 57th tower planned between 5th and 6th.

In any case, I think I'm more excited for 111 W.57 than for any other NYC building, including Tower Verre.

Same here. :cheers:

Whats the total square feet of the building

About 330000sf. Not a lot.

Seriously, New York City just out New York Citied itself

Yeah, the tower at 31 would be in the picture. But only from that exact location or further back. It also depends on how much the tower at 31 is setback.
I'd say if you're on the southside of the street, you'd probably get a better view.


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/154188126/large.jpg__http://upload.pbase.com/image/154870525/large.jpg



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/154188129/large.jpg




The setbacks add a classic element to this tower, it's modern but with a touch of "glamour" the skyline became famous for...


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/154858501/original.jpg

Mommy and daddy are fighting...


http://therealdeal.com/blog/2014/03/...ds-lock-horns/

Behind the scenes, PMG and JDS lock horns
Partnership to call time on relationship once current projects are completed


http://s13.therealdeal.com/trd/up/20...r-paper570.jpg


March 21, 2014
By Katherine Clarke



Sounds very petty to me. PMG could have just as easily done interviews. Different styles.

Does the real deal always get information messed up? It seems like it...

Hope this doesn't effect this development. :uhh:

People don't keep up with the various height fluctuations. Note that we haven't changed anything either, at least until we get more info.


It doesn't effect anything. The guys just want a little more credit for their joint efforts.



In the end, money speaks louder than any "hurt" feelings.

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Moving Up in the World
Structural gymnastics help ultrathin, ultra-tall residential towers for the ultrarich make their mark on the Manhattan skyline.

By James S. Russell, FAIA
http://archrecord.construction.com/t...-the-World.asp




Before people panic, please note that it says 1300 ft aproximately, it is not that they reduced the height, in the text of the article you can see that still says 1350 ft.
So please don't begin to ask if they reduced the height, they didn't

This building is so bad-ass it even kicks Tower Verre's ass.

If the upcoming 57th Street towers want to stand out, they will have to top this (both in terms of design and height). That's going to require creative developers with creativity and cojones.

I thought it was supposed to be around 1400' now? :uhh:

Looking good though

That's a mistake. SHOP said the tower was approximately 1,400 ft.



You can watch the video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIy2HPTCz3g

Oh come on! just what I didn't wanted, to start another boring discussion about the height! It seems it started anyway.

As far as we know, officially, the height of this building is still 1350 ft. the guy at the conference said it would be approximately fourteen hundred feet, again, the key word is approximately, He may just round up to fourteen hundred, I don't know why is there such a big deal about that.

I think that building is more interesting than just 50 feet more or less.

this one seems to be languishing. lots of talk, no prep or concrete.

Pictures from March 17th show equipment on site, but no digging had taken place.

The opposite is true. 111 is likely, by far, the fastest moving project on 57th Street.

111 W.57 was announced just a few months ago, and already approvals, financing and demolition.

432 Park was initially announced as an office project back in 2003 or so, then the site wasn't demolished until 2007 or so, then construction didn't begin until 2012.

The Nordstrom Tower and One57 sites basically took 10 years from land acquisition to development.

250 East 57th Street was announced around 10 years ago, and yet construction just began a few months ago.

But worst of all is the Durst site at 57th & 6th. This site was demolished for a tower in the late 1990's, and yet still hasn't broken ground, supposedly because they're still negotiating for additional buildings and air rights. 52 W. 57, due to location and air rights, could be the most impressive yet if Durst can pull it off.

To be fair, Durst didn't acquire 52 W. 57 until relatively recently, so the delays aren't really his fault.

I agree. Talk is cheap on SSP.

I also don't understand why these articles round off numbers. If it's 1350 ft. then say 1350 not "about" 1400' or "almost" 1300.

Because SSP is not representative of 99.9% of the planet. No one outside of SSP gives a crap about the exact height of a building.

It would be like asking the exact width of a building, or the exact cost of a building. Do you really care if this building costs 1.45 billion or 1.47 billion? Probably not.

Did I miss this?

I agree. Time to see some action on this one. The lack of construction activity makes all these articles seem more tortuous.

Also, has financing been confirmed?

It's probably a rounded number, it could be more or less. Previously the tower was stated to be "about" 1,300 ft. The 1,350 ft figure is the only figure we have at this point, its basically what everyone has been using until the actual height is revealed. So yeah, you are going to see that number until then. However, both SHoP and Stern said it was a 1,400 ft tower. Take it as you will.




Yeah, I mean really, this thing should be half risen already.




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Builders crunching numbers to land best deals


April 4, 2014

The design isn't even finalized. Deep breaths.

No...no "deep breaths" when you suddenly introduce into the converstion *all the more* of a reson for all the Nervious Nellies around here to start hyperventilating again.
Why would the architects have gone through all this presentation reigamarole inf they were *even at this point* unsure of what the thing would *even remotely* look like???

PS If, however,I *am* reading correctly into what you say, whatever exterior tweakages affected by any height change would be minimal.

Just curious, is this actually true? Has anyone actually seen construction activity on site?

I'll be in that area on Sunday and all 6'3" of me can try and peer over the fence and see what is going on. Perhaps someone can take a look at it sooner, though.

No need, there is a gap in the fance.

Excavation has started the last time I was there on March 14.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3691/1...0fc971fe_b.jpg

^^ I don't know if I would call that excavation... :shrug: