sure, for "highrises", but many people (myself included) aren't as impressed by a sea of thousands of 23 story commie-blocks spread out over hundreds of sq. miles as they are by a bonafide skyline of truly tall buildings.

it's only recently that toronto has been making a lot of noise in the taller height categories, and what a ruckus it has been!




well, the vast majority of toronto's 500+ footers are in the core, so if the pace continues, toronto is gonna pass chicago on "500+ footers in the core" as well at some point in the not too distant future.

and if you think the 500' threshold is too low, then jump it up to 700'. chicago has 26 700+ footers (all in the core), toronto has 23 700+ footers(all in the core), so again, the gap is getting extremely narrow, and even though chicago is holding strong with its own building boom, toronto is surging.

but yes, chicago still holds a bigger lead in the upper reaches of the height spectrum for now.

chicago and toronto are settling into the tier behind NYC at #2/#3, split those hairs as you will.

the exact ordering isn't nearly as interesting as the fact that toronto is even in the discussion.




my point was that toronto could be having a large skyscraper building boom even without the high population growth, international immigration, chinese money, what have you, just as chicago is currently doing. those things aren't prerequisites.

it's not so much that the knee-jerk toronto discrediting was totally unexpected; i was just hoping for some more responses along the lines of "holy shit, that's quite a remarkable feat for a NA city over the past 2 decades!"

but yeah, we get the usual stupidity instead.......

i guess its reassuring to know that some things never change.

Because we've had the same troll users for 15+ years now...

Toronto remains a juggernaut. I feel like the city still needs a signature tower though, one with a memorable and iconic design made with great materials.

^ This.

I'm not going to sit there and try to downplay what's happening in Toronto, but I will have to say that we need to keep one perspective:

American and Canadian cities are definitely playing by different rules. Hell, American cities are probably playing by different rules than any other country in the developed world.

Even today, allocation of resources, zoning, planning, transportation, land-use policies, etc etc in the US is SO CAR-CENTRIC and so in favor of building SFH style subdivisions in the periphery that highrise construction in transit-served sites in America is a bigger accomplishment than it is in Canada.

So 50 highrises in the core of an American cities might as well be equivalent to 200 highrises in Canada, and perhaps 400 highrises in an Asian city...

Yeah it would be so amazing to have a signature tower with a memorable and iconic design. If only there was a major Canadian company like say CN, that would consider building such a thing.

Hot damn is right. I have a friend that is an iron worker in Toronto and it sounds like things have been going very well for him. He just bought himself a big house in the boonies and a new Mercedes. My only gripe with his work is that much of it has been in Mississauga where a lot of the projects end up being towers in a park. They’re not very walkable. I don’t know how tall they are offhand, but it almost feels like they’re building tall for the sake of building tall. The projects in Toronto are better integrated, but most were pretty meh from a design perspective. This is the story everywhere these days, but there are a lot of blank walls and vacant retail spaces. Really kills the streetscape.

Anyone else getting these real estate investment ads on this thread?

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Maybe the almighty algorithms know the secret to Toronto's growth ;)

yep and a great season for us popcorn eating cavs fans with kyrie and lebron out of it and gsw facing the same injury bugs that cavs had when kyrie and kevin love were down and out during the finals. healthy those cavs would have annihilated them! and now another laugh with lebron getting monobrow -- too bad the nba games aren't two on two - ha.

so i salute this raptors parade --- wish i could go bump up the numbers -- bring on the typical night pics --- and more anonymous 500'ers for that matter --- sao paulo is the goal! :cool:

Just a regular Monday here in Toronto...


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Estimated 2 million people out on the street right now.

Obviously when I say tower I mean skyscraper.

And lets be honest here the CN tower is no beauty made with nice materials, it's an ugly concrete mast.

Toronto needs something like the John Hancock Center.

If Toronto keeps growing, I'll have no choice but to rescind that. But shockingly, I still go with Jacksonville.

yass! yaaasss! how does it feeeel gsw? :haha:

of course you do.

find one other person on this globe who agrees with you and maybe the rest of us will stop laughing at you.

but probably not.

My impression of Chicago is the towers were built with higher quality material and more distinctive design. Maybe building at a faster pace means less care, and newer buildings in general look cheap compared to old buildings anyways. Of course, since Chicago built over a longer period of time, there will be more variety compared to Toronto. Toronto was built in shorter time so the buildings look more the same. When I look at Mississauga for example, lack of buildings from many different periods is the main difference compared to Toronto. Same is true when comparing Toronto to Chicago.

Now you know how we feel and metropolitan population number :)

I would like to see Toronto have more signature towers. When looking at the skyline from the lake, there isn't any that really stand out except for the CN Tower since they're all clustered together at similar heights. A few 1,500 foot strategically placed towers, of good design and quality, would be awesome for the skyline.

It's not all about the skyline however. I really like the planning initiatives coming out of Toronto. I was reading that regulations are coming out to legalize single-family homes having a second unit. That will do wonders for creating a vibrant urban environment.

That's gotta be a joke/trolling. Jacksonville has the worst downtown in the Americas. It's not growing except in the suburbs.

He's supposed to buy a cramped apartment in a high rise! What the :hell: !

Developers are only following zoning. Remove requirements for shitty green space and maximum building coverage, more urban and walkable buildings will be built. It's the zoning that is encouraging auto-oriented developments.

No, it's auto usage that encourages auto-oriented developments.

The zoning doesn't dictate consumer preferences, and somewhere like Mississauga isn't gonna be built in a pre-auto format, obviously.