Phoenix | Barrister-Jefferson Place | 350 FT(est.) | 29 Floors
Here is a new thread for the Barrister complex. :)
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Edit: found the renderings
http://azbex.com/wp-content/uploads/...ster-Plans.jpg Lots more renderings: http://kjzz.org/sites/default/files/...n%206.1.16.pdf |
Here's the best I've seen, I'll edit if I see a better one.
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/6a36...-rendering.JPG Source |
I wish I were in charge of naming this building... The Hitchcock.
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I took a spin around downtown yesterday and checked out Barrister. The section of the parking lot that is fenced off and being torn up is where the high-rise would go. So I assume the high-rises going up first?
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A couple of more ideas to honor Hitchcock at the project:
Rooftop Aviary: The Birds An office for Joe Arpaio: Psycho A bungee jump contraption from the roof: Vertigo A shop or bar on the corner of the Barrister building at 1st Ave and Jefferson: North by Northwest :cheers: |
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Does this development have a website?
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Does anyone know what is going on at Barrister now? They cleared out the old broken up asphalt, repaved that section and removed the fence this morning. Not sure if any of this has anything to do with the project, if they are using the surface parking for the NCAA events (lots of cars parked across 1st from TSA), or if it is optics (the city trying to make prominent downtown lot look nice for this weekend since there is no other sign of construction). Any ideas?
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I would laugh (out of frustration) if they scrapped it because of likelihood of the GPLET program going away.
It's probably not the case but it would be kind of funny. |
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Any updates for this project now that March Madness is over? Is any fencing back up?
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Phxguy, I am with you now... I hope this beings to move. How great would it be to see this and Block23 going up at the same time? Anyone been by the site the last couple days?
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With the misinformation & guesswork going on here, figured it would be helpful to share an update on the Barrister condominium development a.k.a Jefferson Place.
1) They are under contract to purchase the Barrister building and adjacent property from the City of Phoenix. 100% under contract - but not 100% finalized to my knowledge. 2) They have begun the lengthy pre-construction process of developing the building. 3) Between design, engineering, financing, legal, presales, and further City approvals, they are still 9-12 months from the 'official' start of construction. 4) If all of the above occurs without a hitch, we might see construction begin in the 7-8 month timeframe. Sounds like that's a big if, however. To emphasize: No, Jefferson Place hasn't begun construction. No, the sky isn't falling. No, the GPLET debacle didn't sideline this project. And yes, the Downtown Phoenix market can still support more residential developments. :) |
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Thanks for the well-informed information.
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Found this video from May on history and renovation of Barrister:
http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/54321...#sp=show-clips |
Hello All -
Providing an update on the Barrister/Jefferson Place development as there seems to be some confusion/speculation... The project has been on hold for several months due to a challenge from the Urban Phoenix Project. The UPP is trying to block the acquisition of the alley that bisects the property. There is a City Council hearing to, hopefully, resolve the issue on October 18th. From what I understand, without the alley, the Barrister high-rise condo plan is not financially viable and dead in the water. I am NOT a fan of the Urban Phoenix Project. The group does much more harm than good. They were successful in stopping a Hines project last year - so the Barrister folks are taking this seriously. Fingers crossed... we are SO CLOSE to having an INCREDIBLY dense residental core in DT Phx!!!! |
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What was the hines project?
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We have just appealed the abandonment of the alley behind the Barrister Building. (Southeast corner of Central & Jefferson.) The abandonment would be a material change from the project that received approval by the City's RFP process, and the decision to approve the abandonment neglected to consider the Council-approved criteria for abandonments in downtown. Alleys are important for our downtown, giving us ways to keep utilitarian functions off the street, reducing driveways which are dangerous to people on foot and bikes, and forcing better urban design through smaller building footprints. Our alleys must be preserved. Talk about a load of nonsense!!! What is unfortunate is this delay has NOTHING to do with GPLET. Nothing to do with market enthusiasm. Nothing to do with the developer pulling back. Truly unfortunate. I hope (and anticipate) the City Council will brush off this appeal and allow the Barrister developers to press onwards.. we should know by the end of next week. |
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Wow that is incredibly dumb, if I remember correctly the site plane literally preserves 80% f the ally it just no longer connects to Washington. Edit: Yep, alley still exists http://kjzz.org/sites/default/files/...n%206.1.16.pdf |
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What a bunch of B.S.! All that is there now is a vacant building, a parking lot that is never more than a 1/4 full and homeless vagrants that use the back of Barrister as their personal toilet. I can't tell you how much gross stuff I have seen shortcutting through the Barrister parking lot. So they want to kill this redevelopment over an alley (which as Obadno stated, appears to still be there).
As long as it has taken to develop this property...all the failed proposals...and someone FINALLY comes along with nearly a concrete plan to build a really good development and these jerks pull a Matt. Do they not realize, by killing this development, it could be another 5 years for another developer to propose something else?? I really shake my head at the amount of opposition that occurs in this city. :koko: |
Quoting UPP.....
Unfortunately the project was significantly re-designed after the RFP was awarded by the City. The original design, which we supported, maintained the alley and fully developed the southern parcel. The new design moves all trash and vehicle access directly off of Madison. This makes Madison a a complete dead side of the project with multiple curb cuts. The only development now left South of the Alley is 4-5 Town-homes facing Central Ave. |
As is often the case, the Downtown Devil is providing the best coverage: https://downtowndevil.com/2017/10/13...rrister-alley/
I haven't followed this case closely, but base on what I've read so far, I lean towards UPP's position. Phoenix has said yes to far too many mediocre developments (Collier Center, Arizona Center, and CityScape are a few examples) because we thought that they were better than vacant lots or empty buildings. We're no longer in a position of such desperation There's enough interest in Downtown that we can wait for someone to get it right. Maybe it really is true that the developer can't make this work without the alley abandonment, but it's concerning that this detail was revealed after the RFP was awarded, making this seem like a possible bait-and-switch. If my schedule permits, I might attend Wednesday's hearing to learn more. I encourage others to do the same, regardless of how they feel about this case. |
Careful with the thinking that the first thing available is the best, that's how people end up with Kias.
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I gotta say that I’m at least partially onboard with the UPP position. I know some advocacy groups take their positions too far but I think this is a reasonable position. Not to say that I couldn’t be swayed, however.
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And I really don't understand the ally is in the site plan unless that has all be scrapped and redone? |
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Are you offended? I'm sorry. I was just making the comparison to illustrate my point, sometimes if you wait you end up with something better i.e. not a Kia.
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Kia makes a damn good car. Just saying. You can't really call anything coming out of South Korea junk in autos. Maybe Detroit (still) or Europe...but not South Korea.
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Anyone going to the abandonment hearing tomorrow? I would be very interested to know what comes out of this!:cheers:
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More coverage of the alley abandonment:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/...ilding-9773606 Not mentioned in this article is the point that the alley is apparently already partially abandoned. That one fact might make me lean in the developer's direction. |
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EDIT: Apparently Barrister building is now planned for 32 stories. Nice. |
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Alley abandonment passed unanimously. Everyone involved seemed thoughtful and reasonable, and as exit2left mentioned, it mostly came down to the fact that the alley is already abandoned on the east half of the block, so it's not really functional anyway.
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The alley abandonment was upheld unanimously by the council. When Kate Gallego and Mayor Stanton announced their support, it was obvious to me this would be the outcome since they're generally the two most pro-urban voices on the council.
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Was a new rendering presented? I didn't get to watch the whole meeting. |
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