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I don't think that the Hudson Yards has the luxury cache of 57th Street so any supertall residentials are unlikely. Possibly a mixed-use tower--like the Equinox Building--but both the HY and Midtown East are intended to be first & foremost commercial neighborhoods.
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And 57th Street may have taller towers than 225 W57. Remember that Barnett is assembling yet another tower site on 57th between 5th & 6th Ave. That site is even more valuable than 225 W57. There's also a major assemblage by developer Sheldon Solow, and a few other sites along 57th that could result in similar supertowers. |
Well, the Freedom Tower could at least have had the "tallest" overall title if the spire plan kicks in. Without it, it will just be in the pack. Meanwhile, Donald Trump must have had enough of this by now, if he can get back to what he does best. But as far as I'm concerned, Gary Barnet is top skyscraper builder in the city right now, even if other developers have more in the pipeline. He's never been afraid of height in his developments, even when it was frowned upon in some cases (UWS).
I just can't wait to see a rendering of this future king of NY. |
Wasn't there some talk of Herzog de Meuron designing this tower? I believe I saw a design for a skyscraper in Miami done by them that was less than inspiring; but my hopes remain very high.
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It also probably won't be a standard box, because that's not really what these architects do. They will probably be some sort of roof element, whether crown or whatever. |
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I was looking through some of the documents, and like the article stated, there will be an open air terrace/lounge on the "roof". Above that, 3 mechanical levels, which should be the crown. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/147569324/original.jpg http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/JB...allbin=1080870 Units stack up as follows: Floors 15 - 20: 4 Floors 21 - 66: 3 Floors 69 - 83: 2 |
So it seems that if the terrace on 85 is open to the sky, then the three mechanical floors should be narrower (assuming the laws of physics as I understand them). Either that or a donut hole open to the sky.
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I don't get it. People keep saying that 1550 feet is the highest occupied floor, So it should be taller when added mechanical floors and things like that, Is that so?
I am not familiarized with the building permits issues in NY or in the USA. But, generally, when they talk about building height is the building height, that is to the top of the building, and the permit says buiding height 1550 ft. Shouldn't it be to the top, to the roof? or effectively it is different in NY and it does mean highest occupied floor? For example the Citigroup Center is 279 meters / 915 feet to the top of that 45º roof. And the Tower Verre was capped to 1050 ft. to the tip, not the highest floor, didn't it? Also the 1398 ft of 432 park, would be to the roof. It will also have some mechanical floors above the highest occupied floor, but doesn't the permit states 1398 ft, that is the total height of the building? Quote:
But still could it be that the North Tower, that doesn't have a deffinitive design yet, will be taller than the 407 meters announced so far. (although it should be lengthened by 70 meters to beat this one) |
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Ok, so I read closer. Here's the sectional breakdown. It's continued in two parts, which is the source of the confusion. Sorry about the poor spacing. Getting tabs here is a pain:
Proposed Use Zoning Area District FAR RESIDENTIAL 350,822 C5-1 3.86 RESIDENTIAL 367,908 C5-3 4.05 RESIDENTIAL 139,205 C6-6 1.53 COMMUNITY FACILITY 63,326 C5-1 1.94 COMMUNITY FACILITY 19,030 C5-3 0.21 COMMERCIAL 112,871 C5-1 1.24 COMMERCIAL 152,885 C5-3 1.68 UNNAMED 4,946 C6-6 0.05 Proposed Totals: 1,210,993 -- 13.32 |
This is amazing! I can't wait to see some renderings and construction beginning! I'm drooling. :slob:
Imagine the pictures I can get from my job of this tower rising just a street away from One57! :slob: |
I want to see a renders. Is the site just dirt today.
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Remember that the two announced office towers are just the centerpiece for the Eastern Yards. |
Dirt would be a little cleaner. It's mostly rubble. I assume the MW building is in the process of coming down, since full demo permits were recently approved. From there, it's unclear if digging will commence immediately or not.
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How tall will this building be when 432 Park Ave tops out?
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