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BG918 Oct 25, 2013 5:51 AM

What is your list referencing?

photoLith Oct 25, 2013 1:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6315136)
State National Bank Building (412 Main) will be the next building to undergo a renovation, according to the newest downtown development map. Construction start date and what the building will be used for not yet known.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3815/1...2c9fb970_b.jpg

Well, at least thats some good news, thats one of my favorite historic buildings downtown. I always feared it would be torn down so thats great news something is actually going to be done with it.

RumbleFish Oct 25, 2013 2:14 PM

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Originally Posted by N90 (Post 6315192)
Going to run it from the top for North America.

Proposed:
Toronto: 249
New York: 147
Vancouver: 83
Chicago: 58
Los Angeles: 58
Montreal: 52
Houston: 40
Miami: 39
Calgary: 37
Atlanta: 37
Boston: 35
Philadelphia: 33
San Francisco: 29
Edmonton: 26

Under Construction:
Toronto: 154
New York: 72
Mexico City: 43
Montreal: 32
Vancouver: 30
Calgary: 21
Miami: 19
San Francisco: 18
Houston: 17
Chicago: 15
Santa Domingo: 14
Seattle: 13
Ottawa: 12
Edmonton: 10

I guess Houston is pretty fortunate after all.

I am sure these numbers are not exact, but are pretty good indicators. And I know I should not care about this, but it does annoy me that the US has almost 10 times the population of Canada and there are much smaller Canadian cities that have much more momentum than many of our major U.S. cities. Toronto is really blowing any US city away and has a smaller metro population than Houston or Dallas and Vancouver does not have a much larger of a metro than San Antonio, but has more going on than any other US city outside NYC.

N90 Oct 25, 2013 2:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 6315412)
I am sure these numbers are not exact, but are pretty good indicators. And I know I should not care about this, but it does annoy me that the US has almost 10 times the population of Canada and there are much smaller Canadian cities that have much more momentum than many of our major U.S. cities. Toronto is really blowing any US city away and has a smaller metro population than Houston or Dallas and Vancouver does not have a much larger of a metro than San Antonio, but has more going on than any other US city outside NYC.

Yeah I know, the Canadian cities and really most of the world's cities are back on track with where they left off, the US still has a ways to go in this recovery.

Hey at least we're beating Italy, Spain, France, and Greece!

supertallchaser Oct 25, 2013 7:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RumbleFish (Post 6315412)
I am sure these numbers are not exact, but are pretty good indicators. And I know I should not care about this, but it does annoy me that the US has almost 10 times the population of Canada and there are much smaller Canadian cities that have much more momentum than many of our major U.S. cities. Toronto is really blowing any US city away and has a smaller metro population than Houston or Dallas and Vancouver does not have a much larger of a metro than San Antonio, but has more going on than any other US city outside NYC.

but lets be honest toronto may have alot of developement but none of which is over 300m...the u.s has over 20 proposals/under construction supertalls .
point,USA :machinegun:

Urbannizer Oct 25, 2013 7:13 PM

Larger rendering of the base for 609 Main:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5503/1...b33dd817_b.jpg

Urbannizer Oct 26, 2013 2:02 AM

Allen Center Complex will Undergo Improvements "to remain competitive in the CBD".


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7347/1...28da7b39_z.jpg
  • One Allen Center to receive new, sleek facade
  • Public areas will be enhanced
  • Construction to begin in 2014, more details TBA soon before years-end

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...-allen-center/

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/b...eld-makes.html

AviationGuy Oct 26, 2013 2:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6316217)
Allen Center Complex will Undergo Improvements "to remain competitive in the CBD".


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7347/1...28da7b39_z.jpg
  • One Allen Center to receive new, sleek facade
  • Public areas will be enhanced
  • Construction to begin in 2014, more details TBA soon before years-end

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...-allen-center/

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/b...eld-makes.html

What's the tall building at the right side of the photo? I've been hoping the facade would be redone at some point. Never have liked it. That's just my opinion, though. The facade looks fine in the photo, but in person it doesn't look like that.

Urbannizer Oct 26, 2013 2:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 6316228)
What's the tall building at the right side of the photo? I've been hoping the facade would be redone at some point. Never have liked it. That's just my opinion, though. The facade looks fine in the photo, but in person it doesn't look like that.

The building just out the picture is Heritage Plaza. I agree, especially with Two Allen Center being the same design, a bland box. I hope the facade turns out to be something interesting. Also good to see that new development also forces other developers to improve buildings that exist currently.

Urbannizer Oct 26, 2013 2:54 AM

800 Bell to Receive a Completely New Look

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3827/1...48ae5857_b.jpg

Here's a blurry look at the final rendering for 800 Bell, taken by BaderJF on HAIF. No more fins that extend outward on the building, traded-in for curtain wall glass. The building will also have triangular columns on the corners, and a top. Construction begins in 2015.

cloud713 Oct 26, 2013 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 6316228)
What's the tall building at the right side of the photo? I've been hoping the facade would be redone at some point. Never have liked it. That's just my opinion, though. The facade looks fine in the photo, but in person it doesn't look like that.

the tall building on the right is the Continental Center (1600 Smith). it doesnt look that bad. its an interesting design but i suppose it would look nice in a shiny new outfit.


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Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6316243)
The building just out the picture is Heritage Plaza. I agree, especially with Two Allen Center being the same design, a bland box. I hope the facade turns out to be something interesting. Also good to see that new development also forces other developers to improve buildings that exist currently.

i think he meant the continental center when he said he hoped the facade would be redone.

Urbannizer Oct 26, 2013 6:11 PM

BHP Billiton/ 1500 Post Oak: Updates by Skylineview on HAIF

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...psd670f7ef.jpg

Asotria

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1298d75d.jpg

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...psadd328a5.jpg

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...psc082161f.jpg

Premier Medical Center

http://ww2.hdnux.com/photos/24/37/21.../1024x1024.jpg

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/24/37/21.../1024x1024.jpg

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/busi...4928019.php#/3

Urbannizer Oct 26, 2013 7:44 PM

I was going to wait until this was mentioned on HAIF, but I was told via email the other day that Ritz Carlton may build downtown, near Discovery Green.

TowerSpotter Oct 26, 2013 8:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6316725)
I was going to wait until this was mentioned on HAIF, but I was told via email the other day that Ritz Carlton may build downtown, near Discovery Green.

Not a bad location, although I would have preferred it to next to/around Hermann Park.

cloud713 Oct 26, 2013 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6316725)
I was going to wait until this was mentioned on HAIF, but I was told via email the other day that Ritz Carlton may build downtown, near Discovery Green.

Near discovery green? Like next to One Park Place and Four Seasons? Seems like a possible location while still providing park views. It's gotta be tall though. Any other available spots and it's blocked from the park behind other towers. But maybe they would prefer to be on the light rail line, like on that site the city was trying to sell for residential/hotel, behind the Marquis. Imagine if the footprint was small enough they could fit the tower on that small plot directly in the park on the north east corner of the park where they were proposing building something on the under utilized portion of the park.

Wattleigh Oct 26, 2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6316725)
I was going to wait until this was mentioned on HAIF, but I was told via email the other day that Ritz Carlton may build downtown, near Discovery Green.

If only it were the height and design of the one SOM planned for BLVD Place... Can always hope.

mfastx Oct 27, 2013 12:25 AM

Interesting that they moved their proposed building from Uptown, which is seemingly a more "trendy" area, to downtown. Really shows how far downtown has come.

Urbannizer Oct 27, 2013 6:33 AM

River Oaks District: Photos by russell.hancock on flickr

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5542/1...59ae78db_b.jpg

2929 Weslayan

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7412/1...fa38d03c_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3707/1...5d57d222_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2844/1...a89ab89a_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/1...6c1dec6b_b.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2808/1...3518d304_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5484/1...90fa9504_b.jpg

TexasPlaya Oct 27, 2013 6:03 PM

Thanks for the updates. River Oaks District will be quite a large project.

Bailey Oct 27, 2013 7:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mfastx (Post 6316961)
Interesting that they moved their proposed building from Uptown, which is seemingly a more "trendy" area, to downtown. Really shows how far downtown has come.

I've always thought that downtown had the better bones and that Uptown will one day become victim of its own poor planning. Rejecting the light rail plans will only set it further behind.

Imagine IF downtown could attract Uptown type retail to go along with the parks, theaters, sporting events, conventions, tourist centers, new residential opportunities (including neighboring midtown and EADO), rail lines connecting it to other parts of the city, premiere hotels, etc. and ALL WALKABLE.

How desirable will Uptown be after this happens? I'm thinking a downtown will start distancing itself as A++ while Uptown will be A.

Urbannizer Oct 27, 2013 9:24 PM

10/26 by Triton, sign on site.

http://i.imgur.com/VcIddDv.jpg?1

BrandonJXN Oct 28, 2013 2:49 PM

Are there any plans on recladding (or at least cleaning) the JPMorgan Chase Tower? It's one of my favorite skyscrapers but it has not aged well at all. It looks really dirty and worn down.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...U-CHASE009.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...U-CHASE009.jpg

If it were to get reclad, it should look at First Canadian Place in Toronto at how to do a proper reclad. Looks like an entirely new building.

Before:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2365/2...582c9136_b.jpg
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2365/2...582c9136_b.jpg

After:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6...d60ee152_b.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7014/6...d60ee152_b.jpg

toxteth o'grady Oct 28, 2013 3:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThreeHundred (Post 6318170)
Are there any plans on recladding (or at least cleaning) the JPMorgan Chase Tower? It's one of my favorite skyscrapers but it has not aged well at all. It looks really dirty and worn down.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...U-CHASE009.jpg

You're talking about messing with IM Pei. Won't happen. But cleaning would be good (and cheap enough to do).

Wattleigh Oct 28, 2013 4:23 PM

No new fire museum in Midtown, but new apartments on the way. From the Chronicle...

Quote:

Fire museum plans doused by lack of funding
But firehouse, relics may survive at existing site

By Allan Turner and Nancy Sarnoff

October 26, 2013

Unable to raise the needed funds, the Fire Museum of Houston on Friday said plans for a $15 million state-of-the-art midtown museum have gone up in smoke. Rising from the ashes, though, are proposals to buy the museum's present 1898 firehouse home from the city and upgrade its exhibits and educational activities.

Money for those improvements should come from a pending sale of the museum's planned building site, a 1.44-acre tract at Main and Hadley for apartment development.

M. Scot Davis of Trammell Crow Residential said the high-end project, Alexan Midtown, will have five stories of apartments atop two levels of parking. Davis said the average 850-square-foot unit will lease for about $1,700 a month.

Sale of property is to close on Monday, Davis said. Construction of the 215-unit complex should begin in January, with the first units ready for occupancy in early 2015.

Urbannizer Oct 28, 2013 5:22 PM

More apartments. Local architect Allen Bianchi designed this mid-rise, they usually design modern homes in the area. Not sure how far along the project is though.

http://www.allenbianchi.com/componen...s/large/11.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen Bianchi
Providing convenience with luxury living this mixed use, mid rise, modern apartment complex houses two hundred units as well as five thousand sq ft of retail. The units surround an outdoor courtyard that contains a pool promoting and engaged community. The retail spaces also provide ample outdoor seating to engage pedestrians.

http://www.allenbianchi.com/componen...s/large/12.jpg

http://www.allenbianchi.com/componen...s/large/83.jpg

http://www.allenbianchi.com/componen...s/large/84.jpg

http://www.allenbianchi.com/index.ph...&id=2&Itemid=3

AviationGuy Oct 28, 2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6318219)
You're talking about messing with IM Pei. Won't happen. But cleaning would be good (and cheap enough to do).

IMO it didn't even look very good when new because of the drab gray color. But cleaning would certainly help, as you mentioned.

weatherguru18 Oct 29, 2013 1:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 6318827)
IMO it didn't even look very good when new because of the drab gray color. But cleaning would certainly help, as you mentioned.

This building is nothing more than that: a building. I'm not sure it was ever meant to be pretty. At the time of construction, I'm sure the office space demand was even higher than it is now.

JoninATX Oct 29, 2013 3:40 AM

The JP Morgan tower looks good to me, it just needs a touch up. Plus it's the tallest 5 sided building on Earth.

Shasta Oct 29, 2013 6:53 AM

Maybe I am way off base, but there's nothing hip about Uptown. Strip Malls, chain restaurants, and a mega-mall are about as far away from "hip" as you can get. I rarely head that way anymore despite growing up in Tanglewood. It's snoresville.

toxteth o'grady Oct 29, 2013 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by weatherguru18 (Post 6318935)
This building is nothing more than that: a building. I'm not sure it was ever meant to be pretty. At the time of construction, I'm sure the office space demand was even higher than it is now.

At the time it went up, it was supposedly the tallest concrete building in the country. Understatement was always supposed to be its hallmark.

toxteth o'grady Oct 29, 2013 4:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wattleigh (Post 6318278)
No new fire museum in Midtown, but new apartments on the way. From the Chronicle...

Can't raise the funds for the fire museum, can't even be bothered to save the Dome. That's Houston in a nutshell.

Sic'EmBears Oct 29, 2013 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasta (Post 6319159)
Maybe I am way off base, but there's nothing hip about Uptown. Strip Malls, chain restaurants, and a mega-mall are about as far away from "hip" as you can get. I rarely head that way anymore despite growing up in Tanglewood. It's snoresville.

:tup: Amen :tup:

Urbannizer Oct 29, 2013 10:09 PM

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...ps33e272e2.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by Houston Business Journal
What Hines' new downtown skyscraper means for other tower timelines

After Hines released the timeline for its next downtown tower, other developers with proposals are remaining quiet — planning their next strategic move to get another on the ground.

Last week, Houston-based Hines announced it will move forward on its 609 Main at Texas project and is doing so on a speculative basis with no tenants officially secured, a spokesperson confirmed.

It’s uncertain at this point if other developers with proposals are moving forward on spec or with secured pre-leasing.

New York-based Skanska USA Commercial Development announced plans for its Capitol Tower, a 34-story office structure, designed by San Francisco-based Gensler’s Houston office, with 700,000 square feet. It is the former site of the Houston Club at 811 Rusk and is bounded by Main, Clay, Fannin and Bell.

“Construction timing will depend on market conditions,” Mike Mair, executive vice president and regional manager of Skanska, said after the Hines announcement.

Dallas-based Stream Realty Partners LP’s Houston office and Houston-based Essex Commercial Properties have a 750,000-square-foot structure in the works in a downtown lot bounded by Preston, Prairie, Milam and Travis. Essex is affiliated with Houston-based Linbeck Group.

After the Hines announcement, Stream said the company is “still excited” about its project and is “working on it;” however it was not ready to announce anything.

New York-based Brookfield Office Properties (NYSE: BPO) is still developing plans for what it is calling for now 5 Allen Center. The 40-story office project would be on 2 1/2 acres on the western perimeter of downtown.

Paul Frazier, vice president of leasing, said in August that Brookfield (NYSE: BPO) does not plan to build on a speculative basis, and it would need a 40 percent to 50 percent pre-lease commitment before moving forward with development.

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/b...or.html?page=2

Urbannizer Oct 30, 2013 12:18 AM

Hanover Post Oak: Updates c/o lockmat on HAIF

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/30/4epuva2a.jpg

BLVD Place

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/30/jysuraqa.jpg

Gables Tanglewood

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/30/uqe7ysup.jpg

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/30/e8a5e4uj.jpg

rdavis4559 Oct 30, 2013 1:18 AM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6319516)
At the time it went up, it was supposedly the tallest concrete building in the country. Understatement was always supposed to be its hallmark.

Is the facade concrete? I had no idea, it looks more like granite to me whereas One Shell Plaza is concrete and was the tallest concrete building for some section of the US for some time if I remember correctly.

TowerSpotter Oct 30, 2013 5:53 AM

http://i.imgur.com/rHP59Oc.jpg



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It's a deal of firsts: For the first time in its 15 years of ownership, GenCap Partners sold a site in Chasewood Technology Park. And the buyer will build the first Marriott in Northwest Houston in over a decade. (There's an old saying: You never forget your first kiss, your first love, or your first technology park sale.)"


Uniquity Real Estate's Lisa Hankamer (right, with Griffin Partners' Kimberly Gauss) repped the seller; she tells us the site is seven acres within the 32-acre master-planned office park. Her team was brought on board by GenCap and leasing agent Transwestern because they felt a hotel would complete a live-work-stay-play environment. (One could move there and never leave.) The park has 463k SF of office space and is adjacent to Hewlett Packard's HQ, Noble Energy's 1M SF campus, and Lone Star College's 1.2M SF campus. It's also near retail and multifamily offerings at Vintage Park and Willowbrook Mall. Lisa tells us the deal also benefitted from its proximity to the Energy Corridor, The Woodlands, and Bush Airport. One challenge: Changing flood plain requirements.


Buyer MAS Lodging Capital will build a Marriott SpringHill Suites on the tract. It was drawn to the strong office absorption (especially Noble's recent activity) and will build above-average meeting space to serve those users. Look for groundbreaking soon and completion in September 2014. There's more office and retail coming to Chasewood Technology Park as well—GenCap SVP Paul Vangrieken says an additional 500k SF of office is coming soon (5 and 6 Chasewood), and three retail pads have been carved out for fine dining and other services. Lisa just formed her company six weeks ago and tells us she has a lot of unique hotel projects in the works, including marketing a resort on the Frio River and a boutique property in Costa Rica.
http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...heethou102913/

Urbannizer Oct 30, 2013 2:53 PM

Willowick Park: by aarosurf

http://p50400.ipscdn.com/uploads/mon...1383099773.jpg

toxteth o'grady Oct 30, 2013 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rdavis4559 (Post 6320181)
Is the facade concrete? I had no idea, it looks more like granite to me whereas One Shell Plaza is concrete and was the tallest concrete building for some section of the US for some time if I remember correctly.

I don't think the facade is concrete, but the structure is. My senior year in college (1978), my civil engineering professor mentioned the design for this structure, and I thought it was a rumored observation tower like the CN Tower in Toronto. Little did I know...

AviationGuy Oct 31, 2013 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdavis4559 (Post 6320181)
Is the facade concrete? I had no idea, it looks more like granite to me whereas One Shell Plaza is concrete and was the tallest concrete building for some section of the US for some time if I remember correctly.

Emporis says the facade is marble. One Shell Plaza is particularly beautiful close up.

rdavis4559 Oct 31, 2013 1:13 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 6321590)
Emporis says the facade is marble. One Shell Plaza is particularly beautiful close up.

Now that I read what I wrote, I realize I wasn't very clear with what I said. I always assumed Chase Tower was steel with a granite facade while OSP I was told was poured concrete. I guess I did assume that the exterior was also concrete but I can see it being marble.

Barbarossa Oct 31, 2013 5:19 PM

Such an awesome city, so much development. It's amazing how much this place has been transformed in a short time.

toxteth o'grady Oct 31, 2013 6:14 PM

More awesomeness. Well, sort of - it's only 4 stories but it is 100K sf.

Expansion of CGG's campus out west.

http://http://blog.chron.com/primepr...ouston-campus/
http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/...xpands/cgg.jpg

Urbannizer Oct 31, 2013 8:22 PM

Here's the tower going up on the former Macy's site. Hines is the developer, Ziegler Cooper the architect.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7439/1...91d846a3_b.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7398/1...3eba13cf_b.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5524/1...2346b174_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3796/1...fced2d38_b.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3719/1...9c6b0789_b.jpg

http://goingupcity.blogspot.com/2013...ret-tower.html

oscarinhouston Oct 31, 2013 8:54 PM

Very nice building :tup:

dgpatel Oct 31, 2013 8:58 PM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6322373)
More awesomeness. Well, sort of - it's only 4 stories but it is 100K sf.

Expansion of CGG's campus out west.

http://http://blog.chron.com/primepr...ouston-campus/
http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/...xpands/cgg.jpg

Fixed Link

Ground prep started about 2 weeks ago. Here's the view from my office. Sorry for the terrible picture, I'll try to take a better one tomorrow morning.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7349/1...f720ff0d_b.jpg

cloud713 Nov 1, 2013 1:09 AM

if Main Street is closed to vehicular traffic, huh...? was that proposal more serious than we thought?

i wish the retail was a little more extravagant, since its replacing what was supposed to be the main anchor for the Dallas street retail corridor, but it will be a great addition none the less.

AviationGuy Nov 1, 2013 2:13 AM

Hines Block 256 looks really good. I wish it were taller, but it's still great looking.

Wattleigh Nov 1, 2013 5:13 PM

Alexan Midtown - Rendering from an HBJ blog post. No real new info in it other than the rendering.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...psc38fd6b5.jpg

Urbannizer Nov 1, 2013 6:56 PM

Demo work has begun on Texas tower, making way for 609 Main.

http://i39.tinypic.com/9lkg7a.jpg
By Nate99

Skyhouse update, red line shows where they are currently.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...ps3cc29510.jpg

Urbannizer Nov 2, 2013 3:17 AM

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