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Dominion301 Apr 21, 2022 1:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jamincan (Post 9602851)
That's precisely what I was wondering. Cheap airfares don't do a lot of good if there are no airlines flying to your airport.

Thanks to @thenoflyzone for the map. It's pretty much a map of every existing intra-Quebec route south of La Grande.

Dominion301 Apr 21, 2022 1:28 PM

AC launched 767F service to YHZ yesterday - 5x weekly YHZ-YYZ.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...812627230.html

https://mma.prnewswire.com/media/180...hter.jpg?w=500

Acajack Apr 21, 2022 1:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jamincan (Post 9601988)
That sounds like a policy that could backfire.

It's actually a great policy and political move.

The potential for backfiring will be in how to make it happen logistically and practically.

Dominion301 Apr 21, 2022 2:08 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9602025)
YUL posted Jan and Feb numbers. (Increases are based on the same month last year.)

Jan 606,677 +182%
Feb 621,708 +460%

https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/...et_2022_EN.pdf

YYC has Jan, Feb and March posted.

Jan 653,700 +155%
Feb 698,846 +264%
March 950,174 +327%

https://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/fact...tatistics.aspx

YVR has Jan numbers up.

Jan 776,045 +208%

https://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/docum...fic-update.pdf

YUL seems to be gaining ground on YYC. Wonder if they'll retake 3rd spot this year. March/April numbers should start telling the story.

Reminder of 2021 numbers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_Canada#2021

YOW's March pax stats are out. It's the second best month since the start of the pandemic. The airport's 12 months rolling total has now surpassed 1.5 million - every 1/2 million will be a milestone. YOW is still much slower to recover than other airports as March 2022's numbers represent 40.1% of March 2019. Similar to the question of will YUL re-overtake YYC, will YOW do the same with YWG for 6th?

Sector / Mar-21 / Mar-22 / % Change
Dom: 21,855 / 161,216 / +637.7%
TB: 0 / 10,204 / #DIV/0!
Int'l: 0 / 14,252 / #DIV/0!
TTL: 21,855 / 185,672 / +749.6%

Sector / YTD 2020 / YTD 2021 / % Change
Dom: 75,111 / 362,448 / +382.5%
TB: 0 / 20,743 / #DIV/0!
Int'l: 0 / 34,327 / #DIV/0!
TTL: 75,111 / 417,518 / +455.9%

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2020
Dom: 1,431,287 / +38.7%
TB: 31,985 / -80.4%
Int'l: 49,924 / -70.4%
TTL: 1,513,196 / +11.0%

The most meaningful indicator these days

Month-Over-Month Change
Sector / Feb-21 / Mar-21 / % Change
Dom: 103,471 / 161,216 / +55.8%
TB: 5,271 / 10,204 / +93.6%
Int'l: 10,432 / 14,252 / +36.6%
TTL: 119,174 / 185,672 / +55.8%
Avg/Day: 4,256 / 5,989 / +40.7%

BenYOW Apr 21, 2022 3:39 PM

The 12,000 sqft domestic arrivals facility opened at the Region of Waterloo International Airport today, with the first arrival being Flair Airlines 824 from Halifax. 700,000 passengers are expected to use Waterloo in 2022.

Region of Waterloo Airport Twitter

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ4IPtDX...jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQ4IP0bW...jpg&name=small

kwoldtimer Apr 21, 2022 4:35 PM

Wow, that was a fast expansion.

Dominion301 Apr 21, 2022 6:53 PM

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer (Post 9604266)
Wow, that was a fast expansion.

That hall looks like it's about as big as the original terminal!

BenYOW Apr 21, 2022 7:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9604449)
That hall looks like it's about as big as the original terminal!

The new domestic arrivals hall is 12,000 sq. ft. and the holdroom expansion, set to open on June 1, will be 20,000 sq. ft. From Google Earth, the current terminal appears to be approximately 25,000 sq. ft., so this is certainly a significant expansion!

casper Apr 21, 2022 7:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9604449)
That hall looks like it's about as big as the original terminal!

Very utilitarian. It does not look at template built to worship the aviation goods like many airports.

I like it.

Dominion301 Apr 25, 2022 3:48 PM

Today YOW welcomes WS flanker brand Swoop to the airport for the first time arriving from YEG & YXX.

esquire Apr 25, 2022 5:21 PM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 9604522)
Very utilitarian. It does not look at template built to worship the aviation goods like many airports.

I like it.

It looks a bit like an ULCC terminal. But that's not a knock. If all else is equal and I have the choice of flying to a palace of a terminal with a AIF of $25 a pop or the ULCC terminal for free, I'll take the ULCC terminal every time.

thenoflyzone Apr 26, 2022 7:02 PM

AC Q1 2022 results. They're still losing money, but some interesting updates.

https://investors.aircanada.com/2022...ancial-Results

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Airbus A321XLR order increased by four to 30 aircraft with IAE to supply related PW1100G-JM engines
...

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the addition of two new Boeing 767-300 freighters to be delivered in 2022
The new freighters will be delivered brand new, straight from Seattle.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...evenues-climb/

Dominion301 Apr 26, 2022 9:14 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9608890)
AC Q1 2022 results. They're still losing money, but some interesting updates.

https://investors.aircanada.com/2022...ancial-Results



...



The new freighters will be delivered brand new, straight from Seattle.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...evenues-climb/

Here's some other details:

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...869012360.html

AC Q1 2022 highlights:
-Operating loss = $550M
-Net loss = $974M
-PW1100 engine will power the XLRs
-Q1 load factor: 66.3% in Q1 2022 vs 43.5% in Q1 2021 = +22.8%

Nick Apr 26, 2022 9:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9608890)
The new freighters will be delivered brand new, straight from Seattle.

https://www.aircargonews.net/airline...evenues-climb/

Does this mean any old 767s out there are all spoken for? There's gotto be a point when the supply chain is restored and items such as PPE can be shipped by traditional methods.

thewave46 Apr 26, 2022 9:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 9609071)
Does this mean any old 767s out there are all spoken for? There's gotto be a point when the supply chain is restored and items such as PPE can be shipped by traditional methods.

767s are in short supply because they're still economical as paid-off mid-to-long haul passenger aircraft. Older and well-used ones close to a big maintenance overhaul might be worth more as parts for the existing fleet than a dedicated hauler, once conversion costs are factored in.

Given the fact that Boeing is still having 787 delivery issues, there's still COVID-related hangover for airline cash-flow, and pilot training issues are all reasons airlines also may be modifying their expected 767 retirement dates.

Cargo airlines are definitely looking for deals, but they're not as cost-sensitive to fuel as passenger airlines, so they don't need the latest and most fuel-efficient aircraft. Capital costs factor in more, hence why a lot of cargo airlines are still using older aircraft like the 747, 757, A300, MD-11 and even a few old DC-10s.

thewave46 Apr 26, 2022 9:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9609055)
Here's some other details:
-PW1100 engine will power the XLRs

That will make the CFM Leap (the 737 MAX engine) the odd duck out in their narrowbody fleet, given that the A220 is exclusively P&W GTF powered.

So, I await AC's eventual order for P&W-powered A320neos some year in the future.

thenoflyzone Apr 28, 2022 7:40 PM

YQB finally posted 2021 results.

https://www.aeroportdequebec.com/en/...s-2021-results

353,203 passengers, -34% compared to 2020. That's the highest Y.O.Y decrease compared to all the other Canadian airports that have posted results thus far. They also lost 2 positions in the rankings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...in_Canada#2021

They're expecting quite a rebound this year, with anywhere from 700,000 to 1 million passengers.

caribb Apr 29, 2022 11:55 PM

Cargojet quietly quadruples order for 777 freighters

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/ca...777-freighters

Dominion301 Apr 30, 2022 5:50 AM

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Originally Posted by caribb (Post 9612428)
Cargojet quietly quadruples order for 777 freighters

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/ca...777-freighters

Not only that but:

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The shareholder letter says Cargojet has purchased six additional 757 aircraft, with five to be delivered this year and one in 2023 following retrofitting by an undisclosed aircraft maintenance company. It also bought six 767-300 aircraft, half of which will be converted in 2022 and the other half next year. By the end of 2022, Cargojet expects to have 39 aircraft in its fleet and grow to 47 by the end of 2024.
With a fleet that size, they'll a) probably expand freighter service to a few more cities and b) probably increase every existing Canadian market. I wonder if they'll aim to fly a few more non-Canadian routes?

thenoflyzone Apr 30, 2022 1:41 PM

I just hope the next cargo downturn isn't just around the corner.


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