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ChiPlanner Feb 5, 2020 9:35 PM

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Originally Posted by w.miles2000 (Post 8822082)
What going on at 2100 south State Street

If you mean 2200 South State, it's Southbridge. Financing just closed for the Illinois Housing Development Authority's part in mid-January. Construction should be in full swing shortly



https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/10/3...-redevelopment

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gebs Feb 5, 2020 9:45 PM

I hope this doesn't drive Reggie's out. That's my favorite concert venue.

w.miles2000 Feb 5, 2020 9:45 PM

What about the rest of the vacant lots South of 2200 S State

ChiTownWonder Feb 5, 2020 9:50 PM

I honestly don't mind the form of the east garfield park project, the retail base which appropriately fronts the sidewalk for the whole stretch but the residential massing broken up to avoid a hulking stretch of building. That corner is really strange however and I can see those colored panels becoming dingy and grimy really quick..

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Originally Posted by w.miles2000 (Post 8822132)
What about the rest of the vacant lots South of 2200 S State

*See post #46861*

KWillChicago Feb 5, 2020 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gebs (Post 8822130)
I hope this doesn't drive Reggie's out. That's my favorite concert venue.

Isn't Reggies north of all of this? Can someone crop that image of this site circling what construction is going to happen and what is already there. Dont travel to that area that much.

SolarWind Feb 6, 2020 2:17 AM

306 W Erie
 
February 5, 2020




ChiPlanner Feb 6, 2020 3:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KWillChicago (Post 8822250)
Isn't Reggies north of all of this? Can someone crop that image of this site circling what construction is going to happen and what is already there. Dont travel to that area that much.

Everything that is in color is what is happening. The only thing between Cermak/State/Dan Ryan, Stevenson right now is the school (just above the football field in white)

As-is, there is functionally nothing being demolished for this as it is the site of the former Ikes Homes- which were all demolished by a few years ago.

marothisu Feb 6, 2020 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop (Post 8821702)
There's no reason the architecture needs to be bad. It's not necessary to take one for the team, design-wise to get some economic development here. This could be redesigned into something decent, or at least passable, for not a dollar more. Don't turn this into a false choice.

There's also no reason that architecture has to necessarily be good on every single project ever. Now, with a price tag like that they could probably get better architecture but I'm not going to complain if it's a catalyst for more development that way.

w.miles2000 Feb 6, 2020 1:37 PM

Do anyone know when the Taco Bell that on the South East corner of Garfield & Princeton in Englewood going to open up

jtown,man Feb 6, 2020 3:10 PM

I'm gonna take a really unpopular opinion here and say that as long as the form is good, I don't care about some duds. In fact, I think the duds help make the overall urban landscape more interesting and that can be really nice, actually.

Goose Island Guru Feb 6, 2020 3:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8821819)
^Absolutely.

Red brick and black-mullion windows, like your typical west loop loft, and a few structural tweaks would be no change in cost compared to this travesty of a design.

I don’t think you have any concept of how insanely expensive hand laid brick is. Hand laid brick is a significant cost premium on the best Class A projects and is done at the expense of other finishes on the project.

There is zero chance brick is no cost change to what was shown.

marothisu Feb 6, 2020 5:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jtown,man (Post 8822807)
I'm gonna take a really unpopular opinion here and say that as long as the form is good, I don't care about some duds. In fact, I think the duds help make the overall urban landscape more interesting and that can be really nice, actually.

I actually agree, as long as there's not too many duds. To be able to know what good is, you have to also know evil. Same thing here - just my opinion though.

Skyguy_7 Feb 6, 2020 8:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Goose Island Guru (Post 8822848)
I don’t think you have any concept of how insanely expensive hand laid brick is. Hand laid brick is a significant cost premium on the best Class A projects and is done at the expense of other finishes on the project.

There is zero chance brick is no cost change to what was shown.

I know hand-laid is pricey. I had something more like faux brick panels or whatever the factory-laid brick panels are called in mind. Is there a big cost difference between real and faux?

Forgive my ignorance, as I am in the HVAC industry. :haha:

Goose Island Guru Feb 6, 2020 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 8823202)
I know hand-laid is pricey. I had something more like faux brick panels or whatever the factory-laid brick panels are called in mind. Is there a big cost difference between real and faux?

Forgive my ignorance, as I am in the HVAC industry. :haha:

The most cost effective is casting thin brick into precast concrete panels. The problem is the corner pieces are prohibitively expensive so you end up with a lot of brick in a single plane. Having nice inset windows becomes very expensive because of these pieces so the whole thing ends up looking flat.

The cost of the corner pieces makes it such that hand laid is comparatively expensive.

kolchak Feb 7, 2020 1:31 AM

https://chicago.curbed.com/2019/3/4/...-fire-mansions

from Curbed

UrbanLibertine Feb 7, 2020 3:38 PM

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Originally Posted by kolchak (Post 8823628)

Best news of the year so far, IMO!

west-town-brad Feb 7, 2020 5:05 PM

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Originally Posted by UrbanLibertine (Post 8824098)
Best news of the year so far, IMO!

I was under the impression a landmark district had to be continuous to qualify, but that may be for federal landmark status only.

killaviews Feb 7, 2020 6:14 PM

84 Unit apartment building from the Flats is about to start construction on Lawrence:
https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/02...unit-building/

56 units on Clark, south of Wilson. Hopefully the neighbors don’t block this. Almost all of the wholesalers have left this stretch of Clark – it is in need of serious help.
https://www.uptownupdate.com/2020/02...o-see-new.html

Proposal to knock down a very nice building that contains Jimmy’s Pizza in Lincoln Square and build some ugly apartments. Developers seem to go out of their way to earn a bad reputation. The property includes a parking lot to the east – build on the lot, and preserve the classic building.
https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/01...incoln-square/

Baronvonellis Feb 7, 2020 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by killaviews (Post 8824376)
84 Unit apartment building from the Flats is about to start construction on Lawrence:
https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/02...unit-building/

56 units on Clark, south of Wilson. Hopefully the neighbors don’t block this. Almost all of the wholesalers have left this stretch of Clark – it is in need of serious help.
https://www.uptownupdate.com/2020/02...o-see-new.html

Proposal to knock down a very nice building that contains Jimmy’s Pizza in Lincoln Square and build some ugly apartments. Developers seem to go out of their way to earn a bad reputation. The property includes a parking lot to the east – build on the lot, and preserve the classic building.
https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/01...incoln-square/

OH NO, not Jimmy's Pizza!!! I love that place. The pizza and garlic knots are so good!

Plus, it's a great classic building with nice terra cotta ornament. The new building looks like crap, it doesn't face or hold the corner at all.
Why doesn't he tear down that crap strip mall kitty corner to Jimmy! I would be happy to see that go.
It sounds like Jimmy's will be forced out and have to move as well. And some boring Starbucks or national chain will go in there.

I live in the ward so I will write to the alderman.

Steely Dan Feb 7, 2020 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Baronvonellis (Post 8824865)
Why doesn't he tear down that crap strip mall kitty corner to Jimmy! I would be happy to see that go.

or how about redvelopment of that utterly atrocious walgreens and its massive parking lot.

how come that shit always sticks around like a plague, but the nice vintage brick commercial building with terra cotta details (and it's great little neighrborhood pizza joint) gets tossed aside.

this town is just plain old fucking retarded at times.


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