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G.S MTL Jul 10, 2017 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by d_jeffrey (Post 7860219)
YUL - CMN is now yearlong with Air Canada Rouge. 6x Summer and 3x Winter.

http://www.leconomiste.com/flash-inf...lanca-montreal

I thought it was daily CMN summer according to Air Canada !

Alexcaban Jul 10, 2017 7:20 PM

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Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7860572)
I thought it was daily CMN summer according to Air Canada !

Nope it was reduced in April and the extra plane was used to make Athens daily.

ACT7 Jul 10, 2017 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7859997)
Huh? Start or announce?

Nothing has been announced by Interjet about YYZ, nor is anything bookable. I doubt they will start a route in 3 weeks, when the route hasn't even been announced yet.

They are starting service to YUL in 3 days.

Looks like he's right:

http://www.aviationpros.com/press_re...or-yul-and-yyz

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Swissport announced it will provide Interjet with comprehensive ground handling services including passenger and ramp handling, baggage services, operations coordination and load control. Montreal services will inaugurate on July 13 with six weekly flights, and Toronto will follow shortly thereafter on July 28 with eight weekly departures. The airline will operate flights to Canada from both, Mexico City and Cancun.

thenoflyzone Jul 11, 2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ACT7 (Post 7860713)

Yeah, i see that. Just rechecked interjet.com, and flights to YYZ are now bookable. They weren't when I checked yesterday. YUL was loaded in the schedules a few months in advance. YYZ seems to be a quick launch. What gives? They want to sneak into YYZ?

G.S MTL Jul 11, 2017 1:35 PM

Rumour. Emirates coming to Montreal...?? Montreal - Dubai ....we shall See

ACT7 Jul 11, 2017 2:04 PM

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Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7861433)
Rumour. Emirates coming to Montreal...?? Montreal - Dubai ....we shall See

Unless the bilateral has changed, that would be impossible. Also, I'm pretty sure YYZ would go daily before any new city is launched. Where did you hear that rumor?

On another note, YYZ May numbers are out:

International posting the strongest growth at 12.3%, up 741K over YTD may 2016.
Overall growth up 7.7% or 1.3 MM over YTD May 2016.

https://www.torontopearson.com/en/gtaa/statistics/#

G.S MTL Jul 11, 2017 2:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ACT7 (Post 7861464)
Unless the bilateral has changed, that would be impossible. Also, I'm pretty sure YYZ would go daily before any new city is launched. Where did you hear that rumor?

On another note, YYZ May numbers are out:

International posting the strongest growth at 12.3%, up 741K over YTD may 2016.
Overall growth up 7.7% or 1.3 MM over YTD May 2016.

https://www.torontopearson.com/en/gtaa/statistics/#

In terms of % YUL international YTD is at 12.9%. And YTD overall 8.5%

thenoflyzone Jul 11, 2017 2:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ACT7 (Post 7861464)
Unless the bilateral has changed, that would be impossible. Also, I'm pretty sure YYZ would go daily before any new city is launched. Where did you hear that rumor?

bilateral with Thailand was recently expanded. Maybe an expanded bilateral with the U.A.E is in the works.

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases...633157353.html

I agree with you though. If it happens, YYZ will go daily or even double daily, and I think YVR will get EK service ahead of YUL.

AC is still only winter seasonal on YVR-DEL, at mostly 3x weekly (5x weekly only for a brief period). If I was EK, I would jump on DXB-YVR to try and catch as much India-YVR traffic as I can before AC goes year round.

ACT7 Jul 11, 2017 3:09 PM

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Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7861481)
In terms of % YUL international YTD is at 12.9%. And YTD overall 8.5%

True, I meant the strongest growth of the three sectors at YYZ. As has been the case though for a few years, international volume growth at YYZ is higher than YUL, YVR, and YYC combined, by about 80K.

p_xavier Jul 11, 2017 3:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7861487)
bilateral with Thailand was recently expanded. Maybe an expanded bilateral with the U.A.E is in the works.

http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases...633157353.html

I agree with you though. If it happens, YYZ will go daily or even double daily, and I think YVR will get EK service ahead of YUL.

AC is still only winter seasonal on YVR-DEL, at mostly 3x weekly (5x weekly only for a brief period). If I was EK, I would jump on DXB-YVR to try and catch as much India-YVR traffic as I can before AC goes year round.

The rumor is talked about here about YUL-DXB :

http://www.lesailesduquebec.com/?p=3499

ACT7 Jul 11, 2017 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by d_jeffrey (Post 7861574)
The rumor is talked about here about YUL-DXB :

http://www.lesailesduquebec.com/?p=3499

Then perhaps the bilateral is being expanded. So maybe YUL gets three per week, but I think the consensus is that YYZ would see daily or double daily. May help explain Air Canada's very aggressive push into India as well. They are in talks with several Indian cities to start direct service. If I had to guess, I would say Bangalor, Calcutta, and Amritsar are three likely possibilities.

G.S MTL Jul 11, 2017 4:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ACT7 (Post 7861600)
Then perhaps the bilateral is being expanded. So maybe YUL gets three per week, but I think the consensus is that YYZ would see daily or double daily. May help explain Air Canada's very aggressive push into India as well. They are in talks with several Indian cities to start direct service. If I had to guess, I would say Bangalor, Calcutta, and Amritsar are three likely possibilities.

But nobody was talking about yyz ...I said YUL. Emirates rumour and there you have it. The link is there.

ACT7 Jul 11, 2017 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7861651)
But nobody was talking about yyz ...I said YUL. Emirates rumour and there you have it. The link is there.

YYZ came up because if EK is to expand service into Canada, it likely means the bilateral is being expanded, which in turn likely means expanded service into YYZ. Sorry, what's the issue?

Alexcaban Jul 11, 2017 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7861334)
Yeah, i see that. Just rechecked interjet.com, and flights to YYZ are now bookable. They weren't when I checked yesterday. YUL was loaded in the schedules a few months in advance. YYZ seems to be a quick launch. What gives? They want to sneak into YYZ?

That will be one empty inaugural flight.

Canadian74 Jul 11, 2017 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7861487)
If I was EK, I would jump on DXB-YVR to try and catch as much India-YVR traffic as I can before AC goes year round.


Yes, they code-share with Westjet as well, and can target YYC-YVR-DXB and YEG-YVR-DXB easily

SaskScraper Jul 11, 2017 7:37 PM

Air Canada may have to review pilot procedures and institute better training before the airline does anymore expansion. There could be a major catastrophe if not.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3589297/ai..._campaign=2014

jmt18325 Jul 11, 2017 7:43 PM

Incidents happen sometimes. People make mistakes. A while back, Westjet almost landed in the ocean. What's important is that both turned out okay, and both will be learned from. Air Canada is one of the safest airlines in the world.

thenoflyzone Jul 11, 2017 7:44 PM

According to an Air Canada VP, the Federal government turned down their request to start YUL-BEY, yet again.

https://twitter.com/DuncanBureau/sta...80901823700992

SaskScraper Jul 11, 2017 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jmt18325 (Post 7861967)
Incidents happen sometimes. People make mistakes. A while back, Westjet almost landed in the ocean. What's important is that both turned out okay, and both will be learned from. Air Canada is one of the safest airlines in the world.

MicroBurst that cause plane to have to abort landing just before end of a runway that happens to start on an ocean beach is quite different than aiming for a taxiway to land on.

jmt18325 Jul 11, 2017 8:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SaskScraper (Post 7862005)
MicroBurst that cause plane to have to abort landing just before end of a runway that happens to start on an ocean beach is quite different than aiming for a taxiway to land on.

And they didn't land there. Sometimes humans make mistakes.


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