Yeah, but come on. Sven there looks like he's close to 7'.

Hahaha I'm only 5'11"

I am actually 6'2.

Anyway I think it is fitting that such a tall building is being built by tall people. Very symbolic I think.

I wonder if it will play into the decision of making this tower the city's tallest, or at least trying to (they're so close, why not). It will supposedly be the tallest Nordstrom, and they are working with Extell on design and architect. Hmmmm.....:sly:

http://www.mediapost.com/publication...manhattan.html

wow, id probably be able to walk through their legs without ducking. I'm 5'3" haha. But they definitely joked about that them wanting high ceilings cause they're so freaking tall. And won't it be more dangerous since the buildings so tall yet won't have a core?

I wish we had a more distant shot of that Bloomberg-Nordstrom-Extell shot. I'm sure those guys were making quite a mark on the New York skyline.

There WILL be a core to this building. See explanation above.

http://www.commercialobserver.com/20...the-west-side/

Andrew Goldberg, Broker Behind Trump Tower’s Gucci Deal, Thinks Retail is Ready to Splurge on the West Side.

Mr. Goldberg spoke with The Commercial Observer recently about last month’s huge Nordstrom deal, the Drake development site, Gucci and Westfield’s plans for the World Trade Center.


By Daniel Geiger
July 10, 2012

I hope Nordstrom doesn't sway the design of this tower to become too conservative (i.e. a box). I'd love to see something that is quite interesting to rise on the site.

I'm pretty sure that all that Nordstrom cares above is the layout and interior design of the department store.

Yeah, Barnett will likely have all the say as far as the apartments go, unless those guys are interested in buying.

It's funny, I've already begun thinking of this as the Nordstrom tower in my mind, just to keep it separate from everything else. But here's a proposal from one of Nordstrom's many earlier attempts to build in Manhattan...


http://massforma.com/arch/nordstrom-tower/

Nordstrom Tower


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That proposal is for the Roosevelt Hotel site.

The government of Pakistan owns the site, and keeps changing its mind on whether or not to sell and redevelop. You could build a huge tower on that site, even without the Midtown East upzoning.

That site has been host to many proposals over the years. One day, something very tall and prominent will rise on that site. It would have been a good site for Nordstrom, though the site they eventually chose seems pretty good too.

Yes, it's in the hot zone, and can be built as large as any of the towers around Grand Central, with some "starchitecture". Look for more on that in the future.

What I find interesting about that store plan is that it's basically the same as is planned for this site...

Extell site


Hotel site


Seven is the lucky number. I feel very good about this development.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...i4fYivjUCistaL

By Lois Weiss
August 29, 2012

Walked down 57th Street yesterday and snapped a few pictures of the site.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8452/7...25b7266e_b.jpg

The hold out Morton Williams supermarket remains:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8312/7...9a486e85_b.jpg

From what I understand, the store will relocate to this retail space down the street:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8036/7...48661271_b.jpg

Gary Barnett has said excavation could begin early next year.

And old proposal left over from the "competition", but I thought we'd at least put out where it came from...


http://www.shoparc.com/home#/projects/all

Supertall Mixed-Use

Location: Confidential
Phase: Competition
Size: 1,281,000 sf



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Not too surprising to me...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/103105372/original.jpg

Egads, that thing is hideous. Much worse than the twisting Freedom Tower. :yuck:

Indeed, that one is awful. Looks like some failed Liebeskind monstrosity. Though, it will most likely be changed.

That's not what's being built. It's a design from the design competiton by SHoP. It was for a different version of the tower, one that mixed office, hotel, and residential.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8315/7...94df7281_b.jpg

Found this while browsing SSC, photoshop by Derek2k3.

Hopefully the design chosen will be as tall as the one in this image.

^ Doesn't look at that bad in that shot, though the black & white helps.

''Manhattan's tallest residential building'' So this could be taller than 432 Park?

That SHoP proposal is lousy. Hopefully something much better will rise. I have low expectations for HdeM's proposal. It'll be another hideous trendy wreck.

Am I the only one who thinks this was an awesome design? I'm shocked. I'm sure, though, that if this lost the competition, the final proposal is probably fantastic. Can't wait to see it.

It could be, though it hasn't been designed yet. Would Gary Barnett push for tallest? Undoubtedly. He's like the Donald Trump for this generation - there's always some new, flashy proposal for Manhattan. Even with all its success, One57 will be shortlived as Manhattan's tallest residential. But Barnett may like the fit of that crown. He's promised Nordstrom to build an iconic tower. Either way, it will be another supertall under construction in New York, as early as next year, maybe soon enough to steal some thunder from 432 Park.

It looks like an early version of the Freedom Tower design sitting on top of a pedestal that looks like a mountain. :yuck:

To be honest, one messy, whacky design would contrast well with the relatively subdued designs for One57 and especially 432 Park. At the very least I'm glad all of these 57th St supertalls aren't all the same cheap, blue glass box. I'm digging the diversity, and the architects behind these projects appear keen on making their own unique mark on the new Manhattan skyline.

Even though I want this design to be minimalist and boxy, I could definitely work with a tower similar to the discarded 1WTC design by Liebiskind, but as a full building with no cage on top. And silver, NOT bronze, like the other proposal.

I made another photomontage. If 225 West 57th is really the tallest tower in the city, it will have an incredible impact on the park. On to the photos:

Original Photo SOURCE

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:previous:I really hope they use the full scale Miglin Beitler Skyneedle design for a tower in NYC.

Some people say "more cowbell" I say "more art-deco"

Great rendering, though I don't think this one will be as massive as depicted. I expect a tower that grows very slender as it rises to the top.

i think it will have a spire, just my guess since the denied design also had a spire :)

A spire would be great here, let's hope it's a nice one.

Demolition permits for 225 W 57th were filed on September 18th, 2012 and I think the supermarket will be leaving quite soon to a new location.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01

Nice to see another NY supertall (that will probably exceed 432 Park in roof height!) inch closer to construction. Extell will probably be done with demo and excavation in no time if One57 is anything to go by. :banana:

Too far, too fast? A questions that's been in the back of my mind when it comes to the NY luxury real-estate market. Hopefully a relapse is not in the near future.

They are supposed to begin excavation early next year, and by Extell's standards, I'm sure they will if not before then.

I bet (if/when if not already) financing is secured then they'll start before releasing the design like with One57.

Don't forget that Nordstrom will own its portion of the building, they do have some input in the process. They have searched and waited on a perfect location in Manhattan for years, I'm sure they want to make it count. But considering there were already plans drawn up for a store at the base of a tower on the east side, they know exactly what they want. It's the tower portion that really needs to be worked out. I don't think Barnett will disappoint.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...153917&page=25
:banana::banana::banana:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uHZlMnXHnq...o+57th+lot.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QKG8effIrP...225+w+57th.jpg

http://afinecompany.blogspot.fi/2012...rcle-east.html

Before anybody starts despairing, the floor number metnioned in the blog is incorrect according RW.
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=536

I wouldn't be concerned with that. There's still the matter of getting the building designed. Here's that quote again...

It's all speculation, but we know that it will be a supertall.

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Looks like excavation is imminent!

GOD i am dying to finally see the renders of this one!!!!!

You may have to wait a little while. Just a few months ago they were searching for architects. Excavation though will begin by early next year.

according to RW on SSC, the Mortin Williams store on site has closed.

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http://www.businessinsider.com/midto...estate-2012-11

There's A New 'Billionaire's Belt' Emerging In Manhattan

Meredith Galante
Nov. 8, 2012

Heads up! The new Morton Williams further down on 57th is open, which means the old location on this site has closed, which means demolition can now commence! :cheers:

a good look at SHoP's rejected design

http://payload65.cargocollective.com...376/models.jpg

from http://www.pdmiller.com/Supertall-Mi...HoP-Architects