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Jonovision Feb 22, 2018 4:41 PM

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Colin May Mar 6, 2018 3:36 AM

Rising sea level and Halifax :
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle38160929/

eastcoastal Mar 6, 2018 1:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin May (Post 8109025)

Fascinating... I'd assumed most of the waterfront developments were going to ignore potential for rising seas and just deal with disgruntled lease holders on ground floors. Interesting to read about what Queen's Marque is including in its design. Disappointing to read that HRM is not more forward looking in its requirements to protect people and property.

I didn't realize that the Historic Properties are a "fashionable shopping and dining destination..." LOL.

someone123 Mar 6, 2018 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by eastcoastal (Post 8109241)
Fascinating... I'd assumed most of the waterfront developments were going to ignore potential for rising seas and just deal with disgruntled lease holders on ground floors. Interesting to read about what Queen's Marque is including in its design. Disappointing to read that HRM is not more forward looking in its requirements to protect people and property.

This is sort of a trendy subject at the moment and there are a lot of dramatic stories of coastal flooding and erosion. But there are mostly in areas like Florida where the land is right around sea level. In the Netherlands too they have invested a huge amount of money in protecting the country from sea level rise but much of it is below sea level.

You can see from the maps they show that in the next few decades the flood-prone areas are right by the shoreline. The right way to deal with this is probably what's happening; design the new development in these areas so it can withstand some sea level rise.

I find it annoying how the article talks about how there could have been a bridge closing off the harbour but the city couldn't afford it. That project doesn't sound worth it at all. Also they say Queen's Marque is massive by east coast standards but it is only 40% as big as the Nova Centre.

MonctonRad Mar 6, 2018 6:01 PM

:previous:

At some point in time, a flood barrage of some kind at the harbour entrance into Halifax might make sense. You could still have a working waterfront by having a lock system allowing for ship entry into the harbour.

Moncton could accomplish much the same by having a dike and pumping station further down the Petitcodiac River......

Colin May Mar 6, 2018 7:20 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8109619)
This is sort of a trendy subject at the moment and there are a lot of dramatic stories of coastal flooding and erosion. But there are mostly in areas like Florida where the land is right around sea level. In the Netherlands too they have invested a huge amount of money in protecting the country from sea level rise but much of it is below sea level.

You can see from the maps they show that in the next few decades the flood-prone areas are right by the shoreline. The right way to deal with this is probably what's happening; design the new development in these areas so it can withstand some sea level rise.

I find it annoying how the article talks about how there could have been a bridge closing off the harbour but the city couldn't afford it. That project doesn't sound worth it at all. Also they say Queen's Marque is massive by east coast standards but it is only 40% as big as the Nova Centre.

A prof at COGS has an interesting time lapse video re the impact on of rising sea levels Lunenburg county, it is several years old.
Also this from my favourite weather source : https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/we...al-new-england
" The rugged coast of New England has never recorded a one-two high-water punch like it’s gotten this winter with the nor’easters dubbed Grayson (January 4) and Riley (March 2-3). These storms produced two of the three highest water levels ever measured in Boston Harbor, and both of them produced widespread damage along the Massachusetts coast, with many water rescues carried out. Nearly a million people along the East Coast remained without power on Monday
In the longer range, there’s a more ominous outlook. Sea level is expected to rise even faster along the Northeast U.S. coast than in most places around the world, thanks in large part to the effects of a weakening Gulf Stream. The renowned ferocity of nor’easters will thus play out atop a progressively rising sea surface, making coastal impacts progressively worse unless adaptation efforts can keep pace."
Scroll down the page and look at the illustrations.
Bad news for Nova Scotia. Lawrencetown beach was destroyed this past weekend, what was sand is now all rocks.

FuzzyWuz Mar 6, 2018 8:22 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8109619)
... Also they say Queen's Marque is massive by east coast standards but it is only 40% as big as the Nova Centre.

Journalists love words like massive, multimillion, etc. Seriously, every development is described as multimillion dollar. Isn't that (almost) redundant? If it's under a million it's pretty much gonna be a house.

Jonovision Mar 15, 2018 3:03 PM

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Jonovision Mar 19, 2018 9:21 PM

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IanWatson Mar 20, 2018 11:42 AM

Anyone know when the floating boardwalk is scheduled to go back in?

Jonovision Mar 29, 2018 4:04 PM

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peacockparasols Apr 14, 2018 10:19 PM

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someone123 Apr 14, 2018 10:35 PM

Thanks for the photo updates.

I see a ramp in the last picture. Is this a ramp up from a completed lower parking level? How many parking levels are there? Are they at street level or still below? It is hard to tell from the pictures.

I guess this could be topped out by late summer or so?

terrynorthend Apr 15, 2018 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by IanWatson (Post 8125936)
Anyone know when the floating boardwalk is scheduled to go back in?

I noticed today its back in place (in fact you can see it in the above pictures). Not sure if its open though.

peacockparasols Apr 15, 2018 5:11 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8154813)
Thanks for the photo updates.

I see a ramp in the last picture. Is this a ramp up from a completed lower parking level? How many parking levels are there? Are they at street level or still below? It is hard to tell from the pictures.

I guess this could be topped out by late summer or so?



It is indeed not easy to see from pictures but the floor being built on the left of the first picture is already the 4th "level" of the building. The street level would be the one right below it.

The ramp in the second picture leads to one more lower level with means that two levels would be underground. I don't know much about construction but they seem to be going incredibly fast lately and with nicer weather, this will be topped out before next winter (my uneducated guess).

someone123 Apr 15, 2018 5:36 PM

It will be interesting to see the shape of the building emerge. Right now it looks like it has a big rectangular footprint, but it will really be U-shaped, with some passageways for pedestrians.

Once a few more floors are built it will be easier to see how this will fit in with the rest of the area. Lower Water Street is narrow and the neighbouring buildings like Nova Scotia Crystal are mostly small. Before the buildings that previously occupied the site were torn down decades ago, this part of the waterfront had a fine-grained, intimate pedestrian scale. Hopefully the new building will restore that feel. Parking lots do a really good job of destroying it.

Keith P. Apr 15, 2018 6:10 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8155351)
It will be interesting to see the shape of the building emerge. Right now it looks like it has a big rectangular footprint, but it will really be U-shaped, with some passageways for pedestrians.

Once a few more floors are built it will be easier to see how this will fit in with the rest of the area. Lower Water Street is narrow and the neighbouring buildings like Nova Scotia Crystal are mostly small. Before the buildings that previously occupied the site were torn down decades ago, this part of the waterfront had a fine-grained, intimate pedestrian scale. Hopefully the new building will restore that feel. Parking lots do a really good job of destroying it.


I have little expectation that this will fit well into the area. All renderings I have seen so far make it appear to loom over Lower Water and turn that section of street into a narrow canyon. But time will tell.

IanWatson Apr 16, 2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith P. (Post 8155391)
I have little expectation that this will fit well into the area. All renderings I have seen so far make it appear to loom over Lower Water and turn that section of street into a narrow canyon. But time will tell.

I have high hopes for the waterfront side, but yeah, I think Lower Water is going to feel pretty dark and canyon-esque when this is done.

Jonovision Apr 16, 2018 10:08 PM

A few super zoomed shots from the waterfront trail in Dartmouth.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/891/4...7f90ec18_b.jpg20180415_174833 by Jonovision23, on Flickr

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/825/4...0f166083_b.jpg20180415_180609 by Jonovision23, on Flickr

Jonovision Apr 19, 2018 4:08 PM

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IanWatson Apr 25, 2018 12:21 PM

The sea bridge is open! It's really cool to see the progress on Queen's Marque from the bridge.

Jonovision Apr 26, 2018 4:05 PM

And here is the progress from the newly opened sea bridge!

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/968/4...9192fc9e_b.jpg20180425_132737 by Jonovision23, on Flickr

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someone123 May 3, 2018 3:55 PM

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Jonovision May 3, 2018 4:09 PM

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Jonovision May 15, 2018 9:40 PM

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OldDartmouthMark May 17, 2018 1:41 PM

This shot gives me an idea on what the canyon effect will be along Lower Water. I'm thinking that it might not be all that bad. It's good to see progress happening, I can't wait for this area to be cleaned up even though I know it's a couple years out from that.

someone123 May 17, 2018 3:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDartmouthMark (Post 8190984)
This shot gives me an idea on what the canyon effect will be along Lower Water. I'm thinking that it might not be all that bad. It's good to see progress happening, I can't wait for this area to be cleaned up even though I know it's a couple years out from that.

I don't think it will be bad. Mostly I think it depends on how good the new building looks and how good the finishing of the public areas is, not how much space there is. The fact that they are using high-quality materials like sandstone to clad Queen's Marque is evidence that it will be well done.

There's very little space around some of the older buildings around Historic Properties but people really like them. There's not much space between the Dominion Public Building and Bank of NS but that street is still interesting because of the architecture of those buildings and all of the street-level detailing.

It is good that there's NS Crystal on one side and the museum on the other to break up the scale a bit.

One of the nicest aspects of the Halifax waterfront is that it still has some older buildings as well as narrow streets that are easy for pedestrians to cross. It has a different feel from modern waterfronts full of greenspace and glassy condos.

OldDartmouthMark May 17, 2018 4:23 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8191179)
I don't think it will be bad. Mostly I think it depends on how good the new building looks and how good the finishing of the public areas is, not how much space there is. The fact that they are using high-quality materials like sandstone to clad Queen's Marque is evidence that it will be well done.

There's very little space around some of the older buildings around Historic Properties but people really like them. There's not much space between the Dominion Public Building and Bank of NS but that street is still interesting because of the architecture of those buildings and all of the street-level detailing.

It is good that there's NS Crystal on one side and the museum on the other to break up the scale a bit.

One of the nicest aspects of the Halifax waterfront is that it still has some older buildings as well as narrow streets that are easy for pedestrians to cross. It has a different feel from modern waterfronts full of greenspace and glassy condos.

And in addition, across the street from part of the building will be the surface parking lot of the Dominion Public Building, which will offer some relief to the effect.

I think the material selection looks good. And I hope they don't deviate from that plan and cheap out once they get closer to completion, especially if the budget sees some overruns in the meantime.

Jonovision May 19, 2018 7:17 PM

I don't think they could get away from deviating from the materials. They were all approved as part of the development so any changes of that nature would require new approvals.

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Jonovision May 26, 2018 8:47 PM

All the concrete was pored this week for the first pier.

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SekishikiMeikaiHa Jun 2, 2018 2:06 AM

Taken by me
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RoshanMcG Jun 2, 2018 7:54 PM

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Jonovision Jun 7, 2018 4:09 PM

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q12 Jun 14, 2018 12:32 PM

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Source: Twitter User TJ Maguire @tjhfx
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Jonovision Jun 15, 2018 3:38 PM

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someone123 Jun 20, 2018 3:57 PM

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Keith P. Jun 20, 2018 4:18 PM

Looks like someone is still trying to torpedo this project... :titanic:

OldDartmouthMark Jun 20, 2018 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith P. (Post 8227236)
Looks like someone is still trying to torpedo this project... :titanic:

Probably this actually... :)

Jonovision Jun 21, 2018 3:24 PM

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Jonovision Jul 1, 2018 7:55 PM

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Jonovision Jul 12, 2018 4:11 PM

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teddifax Jul 12, 2018 5:49 PM

I wish there was a way on each site to go to a page to JUST see the original plans. I was trying to compare the buildings in the stage they are now against the conceptual plans and gave up trying to find them. It would be nice if there was a go to page for site plans for all sites here.

pblaauw Jul 13, 2018 2:52 AM

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Originally Posted by teddifax (Post 8249112)
I wish there was a way on each site to go to a page to JUST see the original plans. I was trying to compare the buildings in the stage they are now against the conceptual plans and gave up trying to find them. It would be nice if there was a go to page for site plans for all sites here.

You can get some idea of it here, but finished product is not usually like the original plans, so "buyer beware".

teddifax Jul 13, 2018 12:25 PM

Thanks!!!It appears then the other 2 piers are no where near finished and have a lot yet to be built.

someone123 Jul 13, 2018 4:29 PM

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Originally Posted by teddifax (Post 8249866)
Thanks!!!It appears then the other 2 piers are no where near finished and have a lot yet to be built.

You can also see how the floor heights vary in the portions that have been started. Different parts will have different uses.

There's an art installation type piece too in the central pier-like structure that may end up lit up at night. Cue lighthouse jokes here. I think this one has the potential to look good though, and it will be visible in a lot of skyline shots.

mleblanc Jul 13, 2018 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8250106)
You can also see how the floor heights vary in the portions that have been started. Different parts will have different uses.

There's an art installation type piece too in the central pier-like structure that may end up lit up at night. Cue lighthouse jokes here. I think this one has the potential to look good though, and it will be visible in a lot of skyline shots.

This is a Brian McKay Lyons building. I don't think anything he's ever designed has been bad. Incredibly high expectations for this one.

someone123 Jul 13, 2018 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mleblanc (Post 8250520)
This is a Brian McKay Lyons building. I don't think anything he's ever designed has been bad. Incredibly high expectations for this one.

Yep. This architect tends to produce simple modern designs that have some local flavour and don't look generic, as if they could be built anywhere in the world. I think this one has the most potential of any development being built in the city right now.

They will also be cladding it in Wallace sandstone so that is another hint that this will be of a higher quality.

beyeas Jul 16, 2018 4:56 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8250106)
You can also see how the floor heights vary in the portions that have been started. Different parts will have different uses.

There's an art installation type piece too in the central pier-like structure that may end up lit up at night. Cue lighthouse jokes here. I think this one has the potential to look good though, and it will be visible in a lot of skyline shots.

This building will be interesting to watch as it ages too, given that it seems they plan to integrate a fair amount of copper into both the north and south buildings.

Jonovision Jul 16, 2018 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by beyeas (Post 8252542)
This building will be interesting to watch as it ages too, given that it seems they plan to integrate a fair amount of copper into both the north and south buildings.

I think it will be a type of treated copper that will not oxidize like the typical roof copper we see.

Acadie_1755 Jul 17, 2018 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jonovision (Post 8252954)
I think it will be a type of treated copper that will not oxidize like the typical roof copper we see.

Yes I also remember reading that.


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