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wmemeadusjr Jan 9, 2015 7:41 PM

It would be nice to see Lowe's set up shop there for sure. I'm sure there will be a grocery store as well....most likely Coleman's, as both Sobey's and Dominion are nearby. Besides, Coleman's were planning a Southland's location a couple of years back. It would be nice to see Whole Foods Market come here. They are slowly expanding their Canadian presence, however, I don't think that expansion has even made it to Atlantic Canada yet, so I doubt it.

wmemeadusjr Jan 9, 2015 7:46 PM

I think Galway would have been the ideal spot for another Target store, and the rumour was even the case awhile back. Unfortunately, I don't believe Target is doing well enough to warrant another store right now. It's even rumoured that they may reduce their presence in Canada or even pull out completely. They've been plagued with problems at all their stores from day one....all self inflicted in my opinion.

Horsell Jan 9, 2015 8:50 PM

Some very good speculation..I think you guys have the place pretty much full now! Let's see what happens.

Arrakis Jan 15, 2015 2:07 PM

WOW. I thought they would give Target a bit more of a chance. They are pulling out of Canada after only one year.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/targe...sion-1.2189973

J_Murphy Jan 15, 2015 2:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 6875578)
WOW. I thought they would give Target a bit more of a chance. They are pulling out of Canada after only one year.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/targe...sion-1.2189973

Too bad, I actually liked going to Target.

statbass Jan 16, 2015 1:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wmemeadusjr (Post 6869331)
I don't believe Target is doing well enough to warrant another store right now. It's even rumoured that they may reduce their presence in Canada or even pull out completely. They've been plagued with problems at all their stores from day one....all self inflicted in my opinion.

Wow! Are you an oracle or something? A tarot card reader at least. :)

I agree, definitely self-inflicted. It seems like executives got together and said, "Let's sell products similar to those at Walmart but for a little more and make sure the shelves are never stocked". What a great business model!

The strange thing is that Target stores in the US are awesome, I don't understand why they decided to set up a 'slightly' better Zellers in Canada. I had high hopes for Target, but a year later and stock issues (i.e. empty shelves), something had to give.

I have a funny feeling about Best Buy as well. The company has not been doing very well in the past couple years and have closed multiple locations in North America. It's been here for a couple years now and the place still has empty shelves.... what gives??? I hope they prove me wrong.

J_Murphy Jan 16, 2015 11:58 AM

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A local business manager calls it a terrible loss, but says he is not at all surprised by Target's announcement that it is pulling out of Canada.


Terry Hussey is the CEO of Vigilant Management and is a per course instructor at MUN's business school. He says the US company has been haemorrhaging red ink since opening over 120 stores across the country less than 2 years ago.

He says in their latest quarter they posted a $200 million dollar loss, and have lost $2 billion since coming to Canada.

Hussey says he is impressed with the company's 'progressive' severance, but says it will be tough for their 17 thousand employees to find work at this time of year.


He says staff are being offered 16 weeks severance pay, and it's too bad that a company with those kind of values can't get more support here.



He calls it a tremendous loss for Canada.



http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?...52062&latest=1

statbass Jan 21, 2015 11:59 AM

More Retail Chains Following Target Out of Canada
 
VOCM
Jan 21, 2015

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The retail exodus in Canada isn't limited to Target.

Last week Target Canada announced it was shutting down all 133 locations and leaving the country after less than two years. While many speculated on the missteps the company may have taken, the economic slump isn't limited to one chain. VOCM's Andrew Hawthorn Reports.

Last week Sony also announced it was closing all of its Canadian stores, while clothing retailers Mexx and Smart Set said they would be closing their doors as well.

All this following on an announcement in August that the Bombay Company and locally founded Bowring & Co. were filing for bankruptcy protection.
http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?...52158&latest=1

Horsell Jan 21, 2015 3:17 PM

I didn’t realize that Bombay Co. and Bowring were looking for bankruptcy protection, if they shut down that means a couple of more empty store fronts in the Stavanger Dr. area. Add to that the incomplete strip where Golf Town is and it doesn’t bode well for retail in that area. What does all this mean for Glencrest? That could throw a spanner in the works.

For a population of our size, even if the drawing area is 250,000 to 300,000, can we really support that much retail spread over multiple sites (Stavanger, Kelsey, Mt. Pearl and Glencrest). It would be sad if this signals a shakedown in the industry, I have been to places in recent years (Florida for one) where the sight of empty strip malls and even a full enclosed mall paint a depressing sight.

Malreynolds Jan 21, 2015 3:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by statbass (Post 6883229)

Sony as a company is pretty much f***ed lately anyway

Arrakis Jan 21, 2015 3:37 PM

Bon Bay Co. and Bowring have been struggling to stay afloat for years. I think they plan on staying open as they go through bankruptcy protection. Time will tell if they will survive it. Not optimistic here. I do feel this is a normal thing with big box parks like this anyway. All companies go through adapting to changing retail markets. Best Buy/Futureshop is struggling now too. No one is buying DVD's, CD's, cameras, desktop computers anymore and pretty much everybody now has their big screen tv so that market is slowing down big time too. If you don't adapt your company to changing times, you are gonna be left in the dust. Some companies will no doubt perish as a result of the changing times too.


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Originally Posted by Horsell (Post 6883394)
I didn’t realize that Bombay Co. and Bowring were looking for bankruptcy protection, if they shut down that means a couple of more empty store fronts in the Stavanger Dr. area. Add to that the incomplete strip where Golf Town is and it doesn’t bode well for retail in that area. What does all this mean for Glencrest? That could throw a spanner in the works.

For a population of our size, even if the drawing area is 250,000 to 300,000, can we really support that much retail spread over multiple sites (Stavanger, Kelsey, Mt. Pearl and Glencrest). It would be sad if this signals a shakedown in the industry, I have been to places in recent years (Florida for one) where the sight of empty strip malls and even a full enclosed mall paint a depressing sight.


Trevor3 Jan 21, 2015 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Horsell (Post 6883394)
I didn’t realize that Bombay Co. and Bowring were looking for bankruptcy protection, if they shut down that means a couple of more empty store fronts in the Stavanger Dr. area. Add to that the incomplete strip where Golf Town is and it doesn’t bode well for retail in that area. What does all this mean for Glencrest? That could throw a spanner in the works.

For a population of our size, even if the drawing area is 250,000 to 300,000, can we really support that much retail spread over multiple sites (Stavanger, Kelsey, Mt. Pearl and Glencrest). It would be sad if this signals a shakedown in the industry, I have been to places in recent years (Florida for one) where the sight of empty strip malls and even a full enclosed mall paint a depressing sight.

What I find about shopping/retail in St. John's, is that these big box developments don't try to attract new retailers to the scene. They seem to focus on existing retailers trying to stimulate business by making access more convenient. Kelsey Drive seems to be the epitome of this, there is nothing there that is really unique to the site. Sobey's, Walmart, Canadian Tire, Boston Pizza, EB Games, Dollarama, etc...

There needs to be a key retailer that is unique to keep drawing people back to that particular location. On Stavangar, that is Costco. That Walmart probably draws on the widest population base in the city because everybody goes up there for Costco and "hey, may as well go to Wally World while I'm here and get that overwith". Without a unique draw I think there are a few of these developments that are going to fade out, and I think Kelsey Drive is the most vulnerable. Glencrest, if it does go ahead, will likely be easier to reach from Mount Pearl and is somewhat better located in the suburbs (ie: won't need to deal with Kenmount road to get there). Unless you live in Kenmount Terrace, there wouldn't really be a need to go to Kelsey Drive. Ever.

I have a somewhat irrational hatred for Kelsey Drive - as you may have noticed. It might be my least favourite place on earth.

J_Murphy Jan 21, 2015 6:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Trevor3 (Post 6883724)
What I find about shopping/retail in St. John's, is that these big box developments don't try to attract new retailers to the scene. They seem to focus on existing retailers trying to stimulate business by making access more convenient. Kelsey Drive seems to be the epitome of this, there is nothing there that is really unique to the site. Sobey's, Walmart, Canadian Tire, Boston Pizza, EB Games, Dollarama, etc...

There needs to be a key retailer that is unique to keep drawing people back to that particular location. On Stavangar, that is Costco. That Walmart probably draws on the widest population base in the city because everybody goes up there for Costco and "hey, may as well go to Wally World while I'm here and get that overwith". Without a unique draw I think there are a few of these developments that are going to fade out, and I think Kelsey Drive is the most vulnerable. Glencrest, if it does go ahead, will likely be easier to reach from Mount Pearl and is somewhat better located in the suburbs (ie: won't need to deal with Kenmount road to get there). Unless you live in Kenmount Terrace, there wouldn't really be a need to go to Kelsey Drive. Ever.

I have a somewhat irrational hatred for Kelsey Drive - as you may have noticed. It might be my least favourite place on earth.

The only unique thing to Kelsey would be Home Depot. Although not that unique because it is just another hardware/home renovation store, but it is the only Home Depot in NL. Personally, I like home depot over any of their competitors so I find myself on Kelsey a bit more often. I share your hatred for this area....but not as much as Stavanger. Costco is more of a deterent than an attraction for me. I don't shop there because being only 2 of us living together, I don't need to buy in bulk (plus the crowds drive me absolutely crazy).

Arrakis Jan 21, 2015 7:04 PM

If Glencrest big box area goes ahead you can be sure there will probably be a Home Depot there. There's already a Kent and Rona in the Mt Pearl and Paradise area.

I tend to stay away from Stavanger Drive more than Kelsey but not by much. I can't stand the bottleneck of Costco and Stavanger Drive and Kelsey Drive. Merchant Drive in Mount Pearl can be pretty backed up too at times, especially if you want to exit out onto Ruth Ave.



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Originally Posted by J_Murphy (Post 6883779)
The only unique thing to Kelsey would be Home Depot. Although not that unique because it is just another hardware/home renovation store, but it is the only Home Depot in NL. Personally, I like home depot over any of their competitors so I find myself on Kelsey a bit more often. I share your hatred for this area....but not as much as Stavanger. Costco is more of a deterent than an attraction for me. I don't shop there because being only 2 of us living together, I don't need to buy in bulk (plus the crowds drive me absolutely crazy).


rthomasd Jan 21, 2015 7:32 PM

If they could only get the TGH extension finished, the west end of the city would have an easier access to Kelsey Drive and so reduce some of the traffic-induced reluctance to visit that area. It's easier for Cowan Height residents to go to the CTire/Marks/ WalMart/Kent in Mt. Pearl than to go to those on Kelsey.
BTW - work continues on Blackmarsh Rd to site-prep for the underpass with TGH, so work hasn't completely stopped for the winter.

wmemeadusjr Jan 21, 2015 7:53 PM

I just heard another rumour. I heard that Walmart will convert 3 of the 4 Metro St. John's area stores to Supercentres this year. I don't know if this means building on or just rearranging the existing layout. There is definitely expansion room at Kelsey, Aberdeen and Merchant. Of course, we all know that Topsail Road is the store that won't be converted.

Arrakis Jan 21, 2015 8:28 PM

That won't be good for the Loblaws and Sobeys if its true. I don't believe any rumours though until I get some kind of confirmation from Walmart itself. Three of the Walmart stores just spent a good deal of time updating their stores here (if you can call it that). Will they do it all again converting them to super centres?
Not a whole lot of land to build onto at the Walmart on Aberdeen unless they go down over that embankment towards the golf course. Pretty big drop there and fairly close to the existing building. Stavanger Drive is fairly close to it on th other side too. Probably easier if they just build a new building.


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Originally Posted by wmemeadusjr (Post 6883875)
I just heard another rumour. I heard that Walmart will convert 3 of the 4 Metro St. John's area stores to Supercentres this year. I don't know if this means building on or just rearranging the existing layout. There is definitely expansion room at Kelsey, Aberdeen and Merchant. Of course, we all know that Topsail Road is the store that won't be converted.


PoscStudent Jan 22, 2015 1:17 AM

There's been rumours about building a super centre for severals years. Supposedly there's not enough space on Aberdeen for an extension. I had heard someone say several years ago that Canadian Tire would go in that location and Walmart would go elsewhere, but that's obviously not the plan now.

Malreynolds Jan 22, 2015 3:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 6883936)
That won't be good for the Loblaws and Sobeys if its true. I don't believe any rumours though until I get some kind of confirmation from Walmart itself. Three of the Walmart stores just spent a good deal of time updating their stores here (if you can call it that). Will they do it all again converting them to super centres?
Not a whole lot of land to build onto at the Walmart on Aberdeen unless they go down over that embankment towards the golf course. Pretty big drop there and fairly close to the existing building. Stavanger Drive is fairly close to it on th other side too. Probably easier if they just build a new building.

I know its coming as a walmart empoyee but not when its actually coming

wmemeadusjr Jan 22, 2015 4:45 PM

The soon to be empty Target building on Stavanger Drive, in my opinion, would be a great location for IKEA. Sandwiched right in between Costco and Kent, it would certainly be an ideal spot.

J_Murphy Jan 22, 2015 4:53 PM

Apparently Goodlife are eyeing the Target Stores

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GoodLife Fitness believes soon-to-be-closed Target locations might help it flex its muscle and expand across Canada — and it's offering job opportunities to current Target employees.

The privately held fitness centre operator said it will expand to more than 350 clubs across the country by this spring, and is aiming for 400 clubs by the end of the year.

"The former Target locations provide spacious and convenient locations that would be an excellent space for people to achieve their fitness goals," said GoodLife founder and CEO David Patchell-Evans in the statement.

Patchell-Evans noted that GoodLife has experience converting retail spaces into gyms, having acquired 12 former Eaton's locations in 1999.

Target's Canadian stores are good locations with lots of parking, making them prime candidates for fitness clubs, said GoodLife chief operating officer Jane Riddell in an interview with CBC News.

"We are very innovative when it comes to renovating space and making great looking and great feeling clubs for our members," said Riddell.

A landlord's perspective

From a retail landlord's perspective, a GoodLife fitness club might not be as desirable as a Target store, said Rick Pennycooke, a commercial real estate analyst and president of the Lakeshore Group.

"[GoodLife members are] going there to work out, and then they're going either on to work or going home," said Pennycooke. "They're going there not as a destination to shop, but to do something else."

In contrast, Target serves as an "anchor" store for many shopping centres, intended to draw shoppers in to neighbouring stores.

Some Target locations could also be too large for GoodLife clubs, added Pennycooke.

"If GoodLife wants to take over a good portion of that space, what does the landlord do with the rest of it?"


http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/good...yees-1.2919823

That would be one awfully large gym.

Arrakis Jan 22, 2015 6:42 PM

A typical IKEA building is about 3 times the size of the current Target Building on Stavanger. St john's does not have the population base to support an IKEA store anyway. Though IKEA is talking about opening smaller stores in Canada, they would only be about 37000 sq feet and basically be a pick up for catalogue orders from what I understand.



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Originally Posted by wmemeadusjr (Post 6885146)
The soon to be empty Target building on Stavanger Drive, in my opinion, would be a great location for IKEA. Sandwiched right in between Costco and Kent, it would certainly be an ideal spot.


iLoveYatget Feb 3, 2015 12:26 AM

A Walmart Canada rep told me on their favebook page that there are no plans for a Walmart Supercentres in the metro area in the immediate future.

rthomasd Feb 3, 2015 1:18 AM

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Originally Posted by iLoveYatget (Post 6899343)
A Walmart Canada rep told me on their favebook page that there are no plans for a Walmart Supercentres in the metro area in the immediate future.

Interesting. Walmart staff I've talked to have been told that renovations will start Feb/March to convert at least two of the stores into Supercentres. The Kelsey and Merchant drive stores already have the area on the side ready for expansion.

Malreynolds Feb 3, 2015 2:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rthomasd (Post 6899383)
Interesting. Walmart staff I've talked to have been told that renovations will start Feb/March to convert at least two of the stores into Supercentres. The Kelsey and Merchant drive stores already have the area on the side ready for expansion.

i work at walmart and its been said a few times by management that at least two of the stores are being converted but they arent going to come out and tell the public until they officially announce it

iLoveYatget Feb 3, 2015 2:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Malreynolds (Post 6899434)
i work at walmart and its been said a few times by management that at least two of the stores are being converted but they arent going to come out and tell the public until they officially announce it

I would say that if they do it will be Kelsey and merchant. They won't bother to put a superstore by Costco. Wonder will Topsail Rd close then?

IronMan Feb 7, 2015 3:05 PM

I notice that the space in the Avalon Mall that used to be Bogarts and the Sony Store is being renovated for a new Bootleger. Given then that Bootleger is moving up from downstairs, and that next door Rickies is moving to Aberdeen Avenue in the old Pets Unlimited building (along with a new Cleo store), I wonder what they have in mind for this downstairs space? This is a big area!

Malreynolds Feb 7, 2015 3:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronMan (Post 6905327)
I notice that the space in the Avalon Mall that used to be Bogarts and the Sony Store is being renovated for a new Bootleger. Given then that Bootleger is moving up from downstairs, and that next door Rickies is moving to Aberdeen Avenue in the old Pets Unlimited building (along with a new Cleo store), I wonder what they have in mind for this downstairs space? This is a big area!

Maybe thats where sephora is going?

rthomasd Feb 11, 2015 8:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Malreynolds (Post 6899434)
i work at walmart and its been said a few times by management that at least two of the stores are being converted but they arent going to come out and tell the public until they officially announce it

Perhaps we'll hear something soon - According to today's news -
"Walmart Canada Plans Major Expansion: $340 Million For 29 New Supercentres
CP | By The Canadian Press"
MISSISSAUGA, Ont. - Wal-Mart Canada says it plans to complete another 29 supercentre projects in the fiscal year beginning Feb. 1.

The retailer says the expansion is expected to generate about 3,700 construction jobs, 1,000 store jobs and 300 distribution centre jobs across Canada.

The new supercentres are in addition to the 11 Wal-Mart supercentres which opened across Canada in January.

Wal-Mart Canada says the supercentre projects will cost about $230 and include the remodelling and expansion of several stores to add full grocery departments.

Another $75 million will be spent to add distribution centres and $35 million will be spent on e-commerce initiatives, raising the total capital outlay to about $340 million.

Wal-Mart says the locations of specific store and distribution centre projects will be announced over the coming weeks and months as projects become finalized.

The expansion will bring Wal-Mart Canada's store count to 396 by the end of January, 2016, consisting of 309 supercentres and 87 discount stores.

Marty_Mcfly Feb 11, 2015 9:43 PM

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Originally Posted by IronMan (Post 6905327)
I notice that the space in the Avalon Mall that used to be Bogarts and the Sony Store is being renovated for a new Bootleger. Given then that Bootleger is moving up from downstairs, and that next door Rickies is moving to Aberdeen Avenue in the old Pets Unlimited building (along with a new Cleo store), I wonder what they have in mind for this downstairs space? This is a big area!

That's the location for Sephora.

PoscStudent Feb 12, 2015 3:51 AM

I thought Sephora might go where Eddie Bauer was. Another large area.

Arrakis Feb 13, 2015 2:26 AM

Interesting article.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/wha...hed-2015-02-11

displacednewfie Feb 25, 2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by iLoveYatget (Post 6899448)
I would say that if they do it will be Kelsey and merchant. They won't bother to put a superstore by Costco. Wonder will Topsail Rd close then?

Realistically speaking can this area sustain multiple Walmart SuperStores and a Costco?

NewfBC Feb 26, 2015 5:44 AM

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Originally Posted by iLoveYatget (Post 6899448)
I would say that if they do it will be Kelsey and merchant. They won't bother to put a superstore by Costco. Wonder will Topsail Rd close then?

Why won't they put one by Costco? Costco is competition, to compete Walmart must improve the shopping experience. Converting a store to a Supercentre improves the shopping experience.

Ron.

SpongeG Feb 26, 2015 6:26 AM

i thought walmart was planning to make all walmarts supercentre stores.

IronMan Feb 27, 2015 2:44 PM

My understanding is that a WalMart Superstore is just a regular WalMart with an expanded grocery section with fresh produce, meats and bakery - maybe a bit bigger of a store? Don't see why this would not survive - especially in the Stavanger Drive area. Let's face it, that area is 'the' shopping district for the metro area - as much as the west-enders may not want to admit it. Don't think Galgay is going to be another Stavanger drive - maybe a watered down version such as Kelsey and Merchant. I'd say bring on the Supercenters at all locations (except Topsail of course - that store is just there to prevent a competitor from going in - I mean really, that store is just not up to par.)

Arrakis Mar 9, 2015 11:51 AM

Interesting story on Loblaws. I wonder if St. John's or Newfoundland is part of this plan? I know they have renovated two stores in St. John's so far.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bus...295583871.html

Arrakis Mar 9, 2015 1:18 PM

Also noticed that the area on Hebron Way where the now defunct cinemas were supposed to have gone has a new sign on the site advertising the space for lease. So I guess the hopes of the cineplex happening there are has now been decided. Too bad for the new restaurants that opened in that area for the sole purpose of servicing the movie going customers.

goodgrowth Mar 10, 2015 5:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 6943387)
Also noticed that the area on Hebron Way where the now defunct cinemas were supposed to have gone has a new sign on the site advertising the space for lease. So I guess the hopes of the cineplex happening there are has now been decided. Too bad for the new restaurants that opened in that area for the sole purpose of servicing the movie going customers.

Huge blow that area/street if true. How many cinema screens were supposed to be going in that Cineplex?

Arrakis Mar 10, 2015 9:08 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgrowth (Post 6945179)
Huge blow that area/street if true. How many cinema screens were supposed to be going in that Cineplex?


I think it was suppose to have been 8 screens. I think.

wardo44 Mar 12, 2015 1:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrakis (Post 6945564)
I think it was suppose to have been 8 screens. I think.

The Cineplex purchase of Empire is about 18 months old now. I wonder if the Cineplex folks assessed at the entire market & the proposed retail in Galway & saw that as a more appropriate site for a new theatre. It becomes a solution for the closure/relocation of Mount Pearl Square & easier to capture patrons from young, higher growth areas of CBS & Paradise.

Arrakis Mar 12, 2015 1:56 PM

Funny, I was thinking the same thing. Kinda makes more sense economically to be in Galway than on Hebron Way. But who knows, they may not open there either.

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Originally Posted by wardo44 (Post 6947878)
The Cineplex purchase of Empire is about 18 months old now. I wonder if the Cineplex folks assessed at the entire market & the proposed retail in Galway & saw that as a more appropriate site for a new theatre. It becomes a solution for the closure/relocation of Mount Pearl Square & easier to capture patrons from young, higher growth areas of CBS & Paradise.


Stryker Mar 12, 2015 2:21 PM

They should put one downtown(something I'm obsessed with actually)

Even if it was a simple two screen or something I think it'd be a great alternative to getting drunk downtown.

goodgrowth Mar 12, 2015 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wardo44 (Post 6947878)
The Cineplex purchase of Empire is about 18 months old now. I wonder if the Cineplex folks assessed at the entire market & the proposed retail in Galway & saw that as a more appropriate site for a new theatre. It becomes a solution for the closure/relocation of Mount Pearl Square & easier to capture patrons from young, higher growth areas of CBS & Paradise.

Yeah that would be a better plan. Keep Avalon Mall Cineplex open, close Mount Pearl Square Cineplex and open an new theatre in the Paradise area (Galway comes to mind). Because when you think about Mount Pearl, Paradise and CBS combined have a population of about 70,000 and I would say 2/3's of that are young families. It could definitely support a 8 studio theatre. I don't think a lot of people (especially families) even go to Mount Pearl Square because it is kinda old/no other amenities in that mall or around it anymore.

So instead of having to drive 20+25 minutes AND look for parking at the Avalon mall it would be more like 5-10 minutes tops with dedicated parking for people in that area. I think it would have to be put in a retail area though.

Malreynolds Mar 12, 2015 8:13 PM

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Originally Posted by goodgrowth (Post 6947962)
Yeah that would be a better plan. Keep Avalon Mall Cineplex open, close Mount Pearl Square Cineplex and open an new theatre in the Paradise area (Galway comes to mind). Because when you think about Mount Pearl, Paradise and CBS combined have a population of about 70,000 and I would say 2/3's of that are young families. It could definitely support a 8 studio theatre. I don't think a lot of people (especially families) even go to Mount Pearl Square because it is kinda old/no other amenities in that mall or around it anymore.

So instead of having to drive 20+25 minutes AND look for parking at the Avalon mall it would be more like 5-10 minutes tops with dedicated parking for people in that area. I think it would have to be put in a retail area though.

if i remember it right i thought i heard danny say that they've had a dicussions with a theatre company for one in Dannyland

JP4R Mar 13, 2015 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by goodgrowth (Post 6947962)
Yeah that would be a better plan. Keep Avalon Mall Cineplex open, close Mount Pearl Square Cineplex and open an new theatre in the Paradise area (Galway comes to mind). Because when you think about Mount Pearl, Paradise and CBS combined have a population of about 70,000 and I would say 2/3's of that are young families. It could definitely support a 8 studio theatre. I don't think a lot of people (especially families) even go to Mount Pearl Square because it is kinda old/no other amenities in that mall or around it anymore.

So instead of having to drive 20+25 minutes AND look for parking at the Avalon mall it would be more like 5-10 minutes tops with dedicated parking for people in that area. I think it would have to be put in a retail area though.

Definitely. Mt Pearl Square has seen better days, and the west end suburban market would be perfect for a cinema.

IronMan Mar 14, 2015 5:48 PM

While there is a lot of talk about the CBS area, which is a great area to be in, I think we need to acknowledge that the east end (specifically the Stavanger Drive area) is definitely where it's at. This is the premiere shopping area, hands down, and I don't see this changing. Galway will be great I'm sure, but I doubt if it could be another Stavanger Drive - unless the Costco would relocate there! LOL

statbass Mar 27, 2015 11:51 AM

Ricki's, Bootlegger and Cleo Shutting Down Stores Across Country
 
Looks like there'll be more retail space opening up in the Avalon and Village malls as another Canadian retail company files for bankruptcy. It seems like retailers just can't compete with online competition.

VOCM News
March 27, 2015

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The company that owns Ricki's, Bootlegger and Cleo plans to close stores across Canada and cut jobs as part of a restructuring. On Thursday, Ontario-based Comark Inc. received creditor protection. The company didn't specify how many locations would be closed, but said all three outlets would be affected.

Three of the stores under Comark are located at the Avalon Mall and two stores are located at the Village.
http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&ID=53625

SignalHillHiker Mar 27, 2015 1:16 PM

They just need better styles. That generic mainstream look Isn't enough for a lot of people anymore when they can get things with some real design online.

Malreynolds Mar 27, 2015 5:27 PM

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Originally Posted by statbass (Post 6967020)
Looks like there'll be more retail space opening up in the Avalon and Village malls as another Canadian retail company files for bankruptcy. It seems like retailers just can't compete with online competition.

VOCM News
March 27, 2015



http://www.vocm.com/newsarticle.asp?mn=2&ID=53625

Wasn't it announced that they were moving stores outside the mall and smallers stores at that


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