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yyzer Jul 31, 2018 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by zahav (Post 8267463)
Yes this is true, using the October start date as a sign of bad performance is a major reach and not based on anything. They didn't have to increase service at all, but still did. Toronto is in a league of its own in Canada bar none, the GTA is just so massive compared to everywhere else and its business centre, it really isn't comparable at all to the other cities. Most countries have a dominant city where things are concentrated, Canada is the same and there's no point competing on who's on top

Tongue in cheek noted... :P YVR is also a major airport, and is definitely a major player on the world stage. It also takes a few shots from certain forumers here... so we have that in common.. :)

J81 Aug 1, 2018 1:39 AM

[QUOTE=thenoflyzone;8266422]To be fair, Corsair service to YQM lasted what? a year or two? Can't really call something that barely got off the ground "the good old days".....



Where did i say anywhere it was “the good old days”? I simply stated that in the early 2000s, Canada3000, Corsair and Condor all had service to Europe at some point.

zahav Aug 1, 2018 6:22 AM

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Originally Posted by yyzer (Post 8267551)
Tongue in cheek noted... :P YVR is also a major airport, and is definitely a major player on the world stage. It also takes a few shots from certain forumers here... so we have that in common.. :)

I really didn't mean to be tongue and cheek LOL but re-reading it I can see how it sounded like that! I just realized that the competition and rankings and one-up-manship between cities is so exhausting, and pointless. It is a fact that the GTA is huge and is the dominant city, we are a country of under 40 million with one super major City, which is totally normal. Then we have secondary cities and so on, it's just the way it is, it's not something for non-Torontonians to grind their teeth about and get defensive about

SteelTown Aug 1, 2018 2:35 PM

Swoop to add U.S. routes from Hamilton
https://www.thespec.com/news-story/8...from-hamilton/

WestJet Airlines Ltd. says its ultra low cost Swoop airline will soon begin transborder service as it looks to regroup from a "deeply disappointing" second quarter when it was hurt by the impact of a pilot strike threat, intensified competition and soaring fuel costs.

Details about routes and the official start date will be announced later this week.

Reports suggest the Calgary-based airline will fly to Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Florida destinations including Orlando, Tampa, and Fort Lauderdale from low-cost airports in Canada like Hamilton and Abbotsford, B.C.

"We are clearly concentrating on those airports to help migrate the five million Canadians who are crossing the border to Buffalo and Bellingham (Wash.) and make sure that there's less need to travel on North American counterparts," WestJet CEO Ed Sims said Tuesday during a conference call.

thenoflyzone Aug 1, 2018 3:01 PM

YUL June 2018

1,765,846 +10.2%
Domestic +5.4%
Intl +13.4%
Transborder +13.4%

https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/...et_2018_EN.pdf

Also, Primera will indeed launch CDG-YUL in winter. 6th carrier between the two cities. As per airlineroute.net

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Primera Air last week announced new routes launch from Paris, including service to Montreal and Tel Aviv. Planned operation as follows.

Paris CDG – Montreal eff 28OCT18 4 weekly
PF027 CDG1740 – 2110YUL 321 x135
PF028 YUL2240 – 1050+1CDG 321 x135

thenoflyzone Aug 1, 2018 3:13 PM

[QUOTE=J81;8268529]
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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8266422)
To be fair, Corsair service to YQM lasted what? a year or two? Can't really call something that barely got off the ground "the good old days".....



Where did i say anywhere it was “the good old days”? I simply stated that in the early 2000s, Canada3000, Corsair and Condor all had service to Europe at some point.

Well you said it was ridiculous you had those services back then and you don't now. Not hard to deduce what you meant.

LeftCoaster Aug 1, 2018 9:45 PM

Growth at YVR continues to roll, no soft spots at all this month and with recent new services to Europe and the US the growth should be strong through the summer.

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Originally Posted by nname (Post 8269317)
June 2018

Domestic: 1,114,557 (+8.4%)
International: 1,258,544 (+12.0%)
- Transborder: 591,100 (+8.3%)
- Asia Pacific: 398,936 (+14.0%)
- Europe: 220,921 (+13.1%)
- Misc: 47,587 (+44.5%)
Total: 2,373,101 (+10.3%)


http://www.yvr.ca/en/about-yvr/facts-and-stats


J81 Aug 2, 2018 4:58 AM

[QUOTE=thenoflyzone;8268987]
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Originally Posted by J81 (Post 8268529)

Well you said it was ridiculous you had those services back then and you don't now. Not hard to deduce what you meant.

Lol OK!! Keep trying though!

SignalHillHiker Aug 2, 2018 12:44 PM

Our Minister of Health and Community Services is meeting with the President of Air Canada about the reduction of service to Gander. He said the business is there and numbers have been rising 3-6% for the past five years. He said the changes add at least one and often two overnight stops for the province's commuter workforce that lives in rural NL but works a couple weeks at a time in ON and AB.

They've also changed their flight times so that Gander-bound passengers land at YYT after their connecting flight to Gander has already departed.

SteelTown Aug 2, 2018 1:15 PM

Swoop to launch transborder service in October to five tourist destinations

https://business.financialpost.com/p...t-destinations

Swoop will become Canada’s first ultra low cost airline to fly to the United States when it launches service this fall to five popular tourist destinations in Florida, Nevada and Arizona.

The subsidiary of WestJet Airlines Ltd. will start Oct. 11 with flights to Las Vegas from Abbotsford, B.C., and Edmonton, Alta., about four months after Swoop began to fly.

Service will be added over the following couple of weeks between Hamilton, Ont., and Las Vegas as well as to the Florida cities of Fort Lauderdale, Orlando and Tampa Bay. Flights between Edmonton and Phoenix will start Oct. 27.

Most destinations will be serviced a few times per week but daily service will be flown between Edmonton and Las Vegas.

The transborder service will be launched to these U.S. gateways as Swoop receives delivery of its fifth and sixth airplane, said Swoop president Steven Greenway.

“They really blend well to the model that we provide in terms of low cost, high volume type of leisure profile that we definitely are targeting,” he said in an interview.

Everyday one-way fares start as low as $149 including taxes and fees through April, however it will offer 4,100 seats at low promotional fares of $99 and $119 for travel booked online until Feb. 13.

https://www.flyswoop.com/images/route-map2.png

thenoflyzone Aug 2, 2018 2:39 PM

Some rumors floating around that Brussels Airlines might cancel YYZ and BOM.

When I first read that I said to myself, that's impossible, because.....

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Originally Posted by yyzer (Post 8267046)
YYZ is a pretty profitable route for many carriers. They wouldn't fly there if it wasn't. :rolleyes:

Flawed thinking, but I digress.

Here is the link. French only.

http://pagtour.info/un-feu-dartifice...uvaise-humeur/

whywhyzee Aug 2, 2018 4:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8270201)
Some rumors floating around that Brussels Airlines might cancel YYZ and BOM.

When I first read that I said to myself, that's impossible, because.....



Flawed thinking, but I digress.

Here is the link. French only.

http://pagtour.info/un-feu-dartifice...uvaise-humeur/

Weird, I have heard they do really well at YYZ on connections to Africa. Apparently it goes full all the time up front.

thenoflyzone Aug 3, 2018 2:19 PM

Aimia rejected AC's offer. They will partner up with Porter instead. In talks with Oneworld as well.

AC just got shafted. Serves them right for getting rid of the program in the first place.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/aimi...rter-1.4772738

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/aim...orld-1.4771215

Coldrsx Aug 3, 2018 4:21 PM

Killer deals right now on Hainan.

YYC-PEK in Oct/Nov is $706 return.

LO 044 Aug 3, 2018 5:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8270201)
Some rumors floating around that Brussels Airlines might cancel YYZ and BOM.

Works for me. Although i was looking forward to flying a new airline, now Aeroplan can find me a more suitable connection which means i will help them find me a more suitable connection.

Denscity Aug 3, 2018 5:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 8271509)
Killer deals right now on Hainan.

YYC-PEK in Oct/Nov is $706 return.

Is this a possible bad thing aka small pax counts?

Coldrsx Aug 3, 2018 5:31 PM

It is very similar to Delta each oct/nov/mar/apr.

hollywoodcory Aug 3, 2018 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 8271509)
Killer deals right now on Hainan.

YYC-PEK in Oct/Nov is $706 return.

This is pretty normal for them. I usually see it between $750-800.

nname Aug 3, 2018 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 8271509)
Killer deals right now on Hainan.

YYC-PEK in Oct/Nov is $706 return.

I think here in YVR, $700+ is considered expensive for TPAC. Normally you can get a round-trip in the $600s range, and a "killer deal" is in the range of $400s or lower :D

The last 5 times my family flew, the ticket price is all below $650 return... four of the flights are with AC and the length of flight is all longer than YYC-PEK... Makes me wonder if they're really making any money or not...


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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8271306)
Aimia rejected AC's offer. They will partner up with Porter instead. In talks with Oneworld as well.

Porter.. then it's not going to be useful for half of Canada... Oneworld? It's not useful for the entire Canada then...

TorontoDrew Aug 3, 2018 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelTown (Post 8270127)


What's the draw in Mesa? Do Edmontonians like to vacation there?

source: http://flyrfd.com
http://flyrfd.com/wp-content/uploads..._0-700x460.jpg


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