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rocketman_95046 Jun 9, 2014 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 6609774)
I posted about a project off the 56 about a month ago. Basically it will be a "main street" or "village" type concept with about 5 floors of mixed use lining a couple of streets with shopping, movie theater, office, and residential. It has been approved and will break ground soon I believe. May need to dig around to find the name. Very similar to the One Paseo concept in nearby Carmel Valley.

These are two good links that go over all the developments at Pacific Highlands Ranch near Carmel Valley, including The Village at Pacific Highlands Ranch.

http://www.cbre.us/o/sandiego/proper...ster-plan.aspx

http://phrvillage.blogspot.com/?view=timeslide

eburress Jun 9, 2014 8:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rocketman_95046 (Post 6610975)
These are two good links that go over all the developments at Pacific Highlands Ranch near Carmel Valley, including The Village at Pacific Highlands Ranch.

http://www.cbre.us/o/sandiego/proper...ster-plan.aspx

http://phrvillage.blogspot.com/?view=timeslide

So far they're framing up what appears to just be retail and the layout appears to be that of your typical suburban shopping center, as opposed to something a little more urban or pedestrian friendly. It may still end up being a more village-like, but we'll see.

eburress Jun 9, 2014 8:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 6609731)
Does anyone know what the development plan is for the 56 Corridor from say Crosby Estates/Del Dios out to 4S Ranch and down towards Los Penasquitos Canyon? When you look on google maps or hike up to Black Mountain and look out on this area there is still tons of flat land sitting undeveloped.

Can someone show a map of what will be eventually built in this area? It seems like such a waste to fill in that whole quadrant of the city with low density sprawl as it is very centrally located to job centers in Rancho Bernardo, Carmel Valley, and Sorrento Valley. I know there is a large peace of land set aside called the Del Mar Mesa Preserve and I have hiked in that area. Then there is Black Mountain Ranch open space preserve that just burned.

I have always been curious about this section of SD and how the city views it and what planners think the best way is to utilize it. Thanks --

It's pretty interesting in that the busybody NIMBYs -- which is pretty much the entire local population -- have been surpassingly quiet about this project. Maybe they're finally tired of having to drive 30 minutes to buy stuff. Generally I would say that the Carmel Valley locals want to keep things small, quaint, and that sort of thing, which is why One Paseo has had so much trouble getting off the ground.

SDfan Jun 9, 2014 9:25 PM

This project hardly qualifies as anything urban. It's a shopping center with some luxury apartments in between. There will be a transit center, but I'm sure a bus route won't be considered too much of a threat to their quality of life...

I don't think we should be too invested in the going's on in these types of communities where faux-urbanism reigns supreme. We have to fight hard for the actual urban centers (downtown, uptown, Mission Valley, East and Southeast San Diego). Those are going to be the places where real urban, and transit dependent development could and should occur. You can make an argument for University City, but it's basically a glorified industrial park with a mall surrounded by freeways (maybe after mid-coast is done, I'll be less critical).

Leo the Dog Jun 9, 2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 6611390)
This project hardly qualifies as anything urban. It's a shopping center with some luxury apartments in between. There will be a transit center, but I'm sure a bus route won't be considered too much of a threat to their quality of life...

I don't think we should be too invested in the going's on in these types of communities where faux-urbanism reigns supreme. We have to fight hard for the actual urban centers (downtown, uptown, Mission Valley, East and Southeast San Diego). Those are going to be the places where real urban, and transit dependent development could and should occur. You can make an argument for University City, but it's basically a glorified industrial park with a mall surrounded by freeways (maybe after mid-coast is done, I'll be less critical).

I agree. I'd include University City because of the mid-coast Trolley extension coming. Connecting UCSD to the trolley network will be big.

spoonman Jun 9, 2014 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 6611390)
This project hardly qualifies as anything urban. It's a shopping center with some luxury apartments in between. There will be a transit center, but I'm sure a bus route won't be considered too much of a threat to their quality of life...

I don't think we should be too invested in the going's on in these types of communities where faux-urbanism reigns supreme. We have to fight hard for the actual urban centers (downtown, uptown, Mission Valley, East and Southeast San Diego). Those are going to be the places where real urban, and transit dependent development could and should occur. You can make an argument for University City, but it's basically a glorified industrial park with a mall surrounded by freeways (maybe after mid-coast is done, I'll be less critical).

I agree, except to say that these faux-urbanism projects may be needed to warm these NIMBY's up to better projects. That said, if done poorly, these projects can also make the NIMBY's hate urbanism even more.

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As someone mentioned, putting in a Trader Joes seems to go a long way toward getting the NIMBY acceptance on a project. It seems that many are tired of driving to faraway stores.

One Paseo will no longer have a Trader Joe's now that it is going to be built at Pacific Highlands. One Paseo better promise a Whole Foods or Jimbo's, or they are screwed. It is worth noting that much of the opposition to that project was actually created by the neighboring shopping center, as the neighboring center was afraid that One Paseo would affect their business. I believe Kilroy (One Paseo) is suing the city and the neighboring shopping center over this. Could get ugly.

tyleraf Jun 10, 2014 1:04 AM

Unfortunately this is a typical San Diego suburban project. Unfortunately it seems this faux-urban style is catching on.

Bertrice Jun 10, 2014 3:12 AM

Drove through east village to take a look if rad lab was making any progress. no such luck but I saw Alpha project on market had started construction.

atlantaguy Jun 10, 2014 4:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chapelo (Post 6609385)
Steel at One La Jolla has reached the 11th floor, while the lobby floor slab was poured on Wednesday. Ironworker I spoke to said they should be topping out sometime in July.

http://i.imgur.com/vNhLlvkl.jpg?1

Wow, Chapelo!

If my bearings are correct, this is just west of the 805 on the north side of the street?

Chapelo Jun 10, 2014 5:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 6609457)
It's amazing how fast that building has gone up! Irvine must have some tenants that want that space ASAP. I can't wait to see glass go up on it. Chapelo: Did you ever check out that other site you mentioned las Tim you posted an update?

I heard that the building is actually being built on spec, and has no tenants lined up. If you look at the available space page here, it shows all floors are available.

As for the other site, crap, sorry, I forgot. I will grab one this week.

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Originally Posted by atlantaguy (Post 6611804)
Wow, Chapelo!

If my bearings are correct, this is just west of the 805 on the north side of the street?

Yeah, at the intersection of Executive and Judicial Drive.

atlantaguy Jun 10, 2014 6:12 AM

^ Thanks for confirming. I can't believe the changes around UTC since my first visit to San Diego, when it was new.

How funny that I now work for a company based one exit north, in Sorrento Mesa.

No complaints from the East Coast though, I love it! I wish they brought me out more than they already do. ;)

tyleraf Jun 10, 2014 7:51 PM

Crazy looking project for San Ysidro. Kind of looks like a UFO. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/...eta-duty-free/

spoonman Jun 10, 2014 8:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 6612562)
Crazy looking project for San Ysidro. Kind of looks like a UFO. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/...eta-duty-free/

Very cool. I think more development near the border is a good thing for the region. Like the construction at the San Ysidro port of entry, the cross border airport terminal should also create more development down there, including hotels, car rental facilities, etc.

SDfan Jun 11, 2014 12:26 AM

Fun gif of San Diego's housing growth over the decades.

http://nextcity.org/daily/entry/gifs...-diego-seattle

tyleraf Jun 11, 2014 12:31 AM

Cool link. It's amazing to see the sprawl that happened from the 50's to the 90's. Also, does anyone know what is going up next to the office at sunroad spectrum in Kearny Mesa? It's concrete construction so I'd guess it'll be taller than 7 stories.

tyleraf Jun 11, 2014 1:19 AM

This could be huge! http://scoopsandiego.com/mission_val...a4bcf6878.html

spoonman Jun 11, 2014 2:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tyleraf (Post 6613018)
Cool link. It's amazing to see the sprawl that happened from the 50's to the 90's. Also, does anyone know what is going up next to the office at sunroad spectrum in Kearny Mesa? It's concrete construction so I'd guess it'll be taller than 7 stories.

I think this is what you saw, unless a new office tower is going up.

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Here's an article on some new buildings at the Centrum site in Kearney Mesa. There is a lawsuit over changes to the plan, but both renderings have similar heights. In addition to these buildings, I expect the 2nd office tower will get but here at some point as well. Overall great news for that area.


http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2...through-court/

http://media.sdreader.com/img/photos...08e3fa67d9af9d

mello Jun 11, 2014 6:28 AM

Wow I love the Mission Valley proposal between that Civita and Manchester's buildings on his UT property I have some hope that MV will get built out in decent fashion.

Also excited about the Kearny Mesa project, I also noticed a decent sized building going up along Aero Drive out of the corner of my eye as I drive south on the 163, what is that?

spoonman Jun 11, 2014 2:44 PM

Not only that but also the redevelopment of the Town and Country site and Hazard Center (but this one seems to be dragging), and whatever hotel is built on the tiny Ricky's footprint. Mission Valley is already on its way to becoming a valley of high rises.

tyleraf Jun 11, 2014 3:05 PM

Here is an article on the town and country site. http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/...xpansion-redo/ Also it mentions Manchester is about to release the EIR for the UT site and hopes to be before the planning commission by November. It's crazy how fast Mission Valley could be changing for the better.


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