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Truenorth00 May 27, 2020 3:26 PM

Never understood why WestJet never bought Transat. That would have been a good combination. I wonder what's going on with Sunwing. They would seem to be am okay candidate to merge with WestJet.

wave46 May 27, 2020 3:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Truenorth00 (Post 8933925)
Never understood why WestJet never bought Transat. That would have been a good combination. I wonder what's going on with Sunwing. They would seem to be am okay candidate to merge with WestJet.

Westjet was preoccupied with many things on their plate in the last little bit. They had a dispute with their pilots, the 787 acquisition/starting international routes, Swoop and Westjet Link to name a few. Then Onex came along and I suspect AC got rightly concerned as Onex could have scooped AT up along with Westjet, hence the offer.

Had Onex bought both at the same time, maybe it would have worked.

Sunwing isn't really the direction Westjet wants to go (more Europe) and doesn't do much for bolstering its position in Quebec.

whatnext May 27, 2020 4:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8933743)
Pretty sure Onex is regretting their move to buy an airline right about now.....No way in hell will they invest in another.

What Buffett did a few weeks ago should tell you plenty about investing in an airline right about now.

I don't think AC will go ahead with the TS merger either, but not because the government wont approve it. They will. They would be foolish not too. AC will find another way to wiggle itself out of the deal. They can't afford to take on more planes/employees at the moment when the flying public has all but disappeared.

I don't think Francois Legault, if anyone, will let TS tank. The Quebec government made sure BBD survived a few years ago. The'll make sure TS does as well. It might not be as big as it is today, but it'll be here, one way or another.

Basically, even if the deal doesn't happen, federal and provincial governments will most likely help out each and every major airline in this country to ensure their survival. In a weird way, COVID might ensure the TS name lives on.

Onex's timing was aboslutely terrible but who could have foreseen it? I can't imagine why anyone thinks buying Transat would be desirable for him at this point.

hollywoodcory May 27, 2020 6:58 PM

YYC saw a 95% drop in passenger levels in April. Only 67,700 passed through. In 2019, that's what the airport would have seen in a single day. May will be even worse, as April still had a decent domestic schedule, as well as KLM and Alaska.
https://www.yyc.com/News/tabid/91/ar...-in-April.aspx

Only 345 international passengers. Still better than the 0 that will pass through in May. Could even be more than what will pass though in June too. (Just Edelweiss is left in June, and that isn't looking very good either.)

nname May 27, 2020 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8934186)
YYC saw a 95% drop in passenger levels in April. Only 67,700 passed through. In 2019, that's what the airport would have seen in a single day. May will be even worse, as April still had a decent domestic schedule, as well as KLM and Alaska.
https://www.yyc.com/News/tabid/91/ar...-in-April.aspx

Only 345 international passengers. Still better than the 0 that will pass through in May. Could even be more than what will pass though in June too. (Just Edelweiss is left in June, and that isn't looking very good either.)

I'm curious of how they're going to fit the curve for next month's release without having the line goes into the negatives... :cool:

Dominion301 May 28, 2020 3:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lubicon (Post 8933294)
Alitalia is being nationalized again so likely will not disappear.

https://airlinegeeks.com/2020/03/17/...izes-alitalia/

It’s amazing how the Italians have managed to dodge Euro state aid rules for so long. AZ, the airline with 9 lives.

Dominion301 May 28, 2020 3:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8934186)
YYC saw a 95% drop in passenger levels in April. Only 67,700 passed through. In 2019, that's what the airport would have seen in a single day. May will be even worse, as April still had a decent domestic schedule, as well as KLM and Alaska.
https://www.yyc.com/News/tabid/91/ar...-in-April.aspx

Only 345 international passengers. Still better than the 0 that will pass through in May. Could even be more than what will pass though in June too. (Just Edelweiss is left in June, and that isn't looking very good either.)

Compared with YOW, YYC had a ‘good’ month. Normally YYC handles about 3.5 times the traffic of YOW. In April YYC handled 9.5 times the traffic of YOW.

thenoflyzone May 28, 2020 3:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8934673)
Compared with YOW, YYC had a ‘good’ month. Normally YYC handles about 3.5 times the traffic of YOW. In April YYC handled 9.5 times the traffic of YOW.

I agree. That’s a decent result for YYC. It might even be more than YUL. I guess we’ll know soon enough.

wave46 May 28, 2020 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8934670)
It’s amazing how the Italians have managed to dodge Euro state aid rules for so long. AZ, the airline with 9 lives.

The Italian government had debt and economic growth problems prior to this whole COVID thing and I imagine that it hasn't improved the situation.

Alitalia may be a victim of the Italian government cuts. Given that it has shrunk from credible flag-carrier to also-ran over the last decade, it might be an easy sacrifice.

Then again, it never fails to disappoint. Maybe some other foolish airline will dump a pile of cash into it.

hollywoodcory May 28, 2020 3:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8934673)
Compared with YOW, YYC had a ‘good’ month. Normally YYC handles about 3.5 times the traffic of YOW. In April YYC handled 9.5 times the traffic of YOW.

I agree the April numbers weren't as bad as they could have been, I was mostly saying that May will likely see a larger drop with a slow recovery from June onward.

Some additional positive news is WestJet's bookings in July appear to be fairly decent (at the moment).

Djeffery May 28, 2020 11:52 PM

Air Canada today said they were resuming service to YXU London starting June 22. No idea the flights or frequencies as yet but it's a good sign for sure, since the airport has been down to 4 flights a week on Encore to YYZ. I imagine AC will be ramping up other regional services in their network at the same time.

Dominion301 May 29, 2020 12:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 8935520)
Air Canada today said they were resuming service to YXU London starting June 22. No idea the flights or frequencies as yet but it's a good sign for sure, since the airport has been down to 4 flights a week on Encore to YYZ. I imagine AC will be ramping up other regional services in their network at the same time.

5 flights a week to start.

thenoflyzone May 29, 2020 2:17 AM

https://www.flightglobal.com/airline...138573.article

Quote:

Air Canada is seeking government approval to add five new destinations in Europe and South America to its air freight network starting 1 June, seeking to take advantage of demand for cargo capacity even as passenger travel demand remains stagnant.

If approved, the Canadian flag carrier would operate air freight deliveries from its hub in Montreal to Bogota, Lima, Amsterdam, Dublin and Madrid.

thenoflyzone May 29, 2020 2:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p_xavier (Post 8933747)
So is AC flying to NRT from YUL or not this Summer? I can't find dates.

It’s bookable from August 1, for now.

Dominion301 May 29, 2020 6:04 PM

Nice article about YWG and some good historic photos of YWG: https://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bu...Pos=3#cxrecs_s

Denscity May 30, 2020 7:12 AM

Air Canada has delayed again coming back to YCG till early September.

Coldrsx May 30, 2020 6:04 PM

YEG


https://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...ec&oe=5EF8EB47
Colin Hicks on FB's YEG Airport Spotters Group

Djeffery May 30, 2020 7:14 PM

AN-225 in Toronto today.

Video Link

thenoflyzone May 30, 2020 7:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 8937120)
AN-225 in Toronto today.

:tup:

whatnext May 30, 2020 9:40 PM

I had heard AC's cabin crew layoffs are going all the way back in seniority to those who were hired in 1998. That's gobsmacking.

mxg308 May 31, 2020 2:32 PM

Huge loss for YOW as it appears AA and DL are pulling out of YOW.

AA PHL-YOW JUN 0.7>0.1[2] JUL 1.8>0[2.0] AUG 2>0[2] SEP 2>0[1.9] OCT 2>0[2] NOV 3>0[1.9] DEC 3>0[1.9] JAN 3>0[1.9] FEB 3>0[1.9]
DTW-YOW JUN 1.0>0.6[1.8] JUL 1.0>0[1.7] AUG 1.8>0[1.8] SEP 1.9>0[1.8] OCT 1.8>0[1.7] NOV 1.9>0[1.7] DEC 1.9>0[1.9] JAN 1.8>0[1.8] FEB 1.9>0[1.8]
LGA-YOW AUG 1.8>0[1.8] SEP 1.9>0[1.7] OCT 1.8>0[1.7] NOV 1.9>0[1.6] DEC 1.5>0[1.5] JAN 1.7>0[1.7] FEB 1.9>0[1.7]

So that leaves YOW with only UA as the only non-Canadian airline flying out of YOW.

Dominion301 May 31, 2020 4:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxg308 (Post 8937623)
Huge loss for YOW as it appears AA and DL are pulling out of YOW.

AA PHL-YOW JUN 0.7>0.1[2] JUL 1.8>0[2.0] AUG 2>0[2] SEP 2>0[1.9] OCT 2>0[2] NOV 3>0[1.9] DEC 3>0[1.9] JAN 3>0[1.9] FEB 3>0[1.9]
DTW-YOW JUN 1.0>0.6[1.8] JUL 1.0>0[1.7] AUG 1.8>0[1.8] SEP 1.9>0[1.8] OCT 1.8>0[1.7] NOV 1.9>0[1.7] DEC 1.9>0[1.9] JAN 1.8>0[1.8] FEB 1.9>0[1.8]
LGA-YOW AUG 1.8>0[1.8] SEP 1.9>0[1.7] OCT 1.8>0[1.7] NOV 1.9>0[1.6] DEC 1.5>0[1.5] JAN 1.7>0[1.7] FEB 1.9>0[1.7]

So that leaves YOW with only UA as the only non-Canadian airline flying out of YOW.

That’s rather shocking given currently AA to PHL and DL to DTW are the only two airlines flying transborder currently out of YOW. I imagine they’ll be back eventually but for now they’re gone as opposed to UA who have merely suspended YOW.

That means as of mid-June YOW will have zero transborder service until later in the year.

Coldrsx Jun 2, 2020 1:57 AM

https://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...c6&oe=5EF9F816
Simon Pontin on FB's YEG Airport Spotters Group

Truenorth00 Jun 2, 2020 2:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8937710)
That’s rather shocking.....

Is it? Is it really?

YOW is Air Canada's bitch. And in the age of passenger loads being able to fit in a car, there's no point trying to compete where there's no edge. Post-TS, AC is going to absolutely dominate international and transborder out of YOW and YUL.

thenoflyzone Jun 2, 2020 1:38 PM

LH updated their schedules for the last 2 weeks of June.

MUC-YUL set to resume June 22. 3x weekly A359. As mentioned a few weeks ago, FRA-YYZ resumes tomorrow, 3x weekly A333.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-31may20/

YYCguys Jun 2, 2020 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8939872)
LH updated their schedules for the last 2 weeks of June.

MUC-YUL set to resume June 22. 3x weekly A359. As mentioned a few weeks ago, FRA-YYZ resumes tomorrow, 3x weekly A333.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-31may20/

Are there still 14 day isolation restrictions in effect for Germany, Ontario and Quebec? Wonder what kind of loads they can expect if the restrictions are still in effect (perhaps residents only versus visitors?)

thenoflyzone Jun 2, 2020 5:15 PM

I think the EU wants to lift restrictions for non-EU citizens by June 15, and Germany thus far has followed the EU guidelines. Not sure if they will go ahead with that plan though.

Considering YUL is one of only 7 long haul destinations LH is resuming from MUC, I tend to guess loads are better than expected. Don’t forget, it’s a hub-hub route and is only 3x weekly. Seat capacity is also limited, so considering all of those conditions, wouldn’t surprise me to see the flights close to ”full”, so to speak.

Same thing for FRA-YYZ.

lubicon Jun 2, 2020 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 8940067)
Are there still 14 day isolation restrictions in effect for Germany, Ontario and Quebec? Wonder what kind of loads they can expect if the restrictions are still in effect (perhaps residents only versus visitors?)

If by Ontario and Quebec you mean Canada then the answer is yes. International arrivals to Canada must self isolate. Province of arrival is irrelevant.

rbt Jun 2, 2020 6:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 8940067)
Are there still 14 day isolation restrictions in effect for Germany, Ontario and Quebec? Wonder what kind of loads they can expect if the restrictions are still in effect (perhaps residents only versus visitors?)

Having a guaranteed full cargo hold paying a premium to be at the front of the line helps the numbers quite a bit.

hollywoodcory Jun 2, 2020 9:06 PM

https://news.klm.com/klm-adds-more-d...ns-to-network/

According to this press release KLM will only resume YYC and YVR in July. YEG and YUL are TBD.

ReeceZ Jun 2, 2020 9:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8940383)
https://news.klm.com/klm-adds-more-d...ns-to-network/

According to this press release KLM will only resume YYC and YVR in July. YEG and YUL are TBD.

It should have been YYC and YEG TBD, and YVR and YUL resuming service in July.

YUL>>>>>>>>>YYC

YYCguys Jun 2, 2020 9:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReeceZ (Post 8940404)
It should have been YYC and YEG TBD, and YVR and YUL resuming service in July.

YUL>>>>>>>>>YYC

When Quebec brings down its Covid-19 cases (over half of cases in Canada are in Quebec!), then KLM will reconsider when to resume flying to YUL.

thenoflyzone Jun 2, 2020 10:00 PM

It's called AF-KL for a reason. AF never stopped serving YUL, so in essence, KL still serves YUL, just not via AMS. In that context, I understand their decision not to resume YUL for now. YYC and YVR are currently not served by the AF-KL group, so it makes sense for those cities to get KL first.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 8940435)
When Quebec brings down its Covid-19 cases (over half of cases in Canada are in Quebec!), then KLM will reconsider when to resume flying to YUL.

I dont think that matters. Quebec's covid count is still nothing compared to other jurisdictions in North America.

If it did matter, no foreign airlines would fly to JFK or EWR either, or anywhere else in the US for that matter. Yet they are.

samuelx88 Jun 2, 2020 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxg308 (Post 8937623)
Huge loss for YOW as it appears AA and DL are pulling out of YOW.

AA PHL-YOW JUN 0.7>0.1[2] JUL 1.8>0[2.0] AUG 2>0[2] SEP 2>0[1.9] OCT 2>0[2] NOV 3>0[1.9] DEC 3>0[1.9] JAN 3>0[1.9] FEB 3>0[1.9]
DTW-YOW JUN 1.0>0.6[1.8] JUL 1.0>0[1.7] AUG 1.8>0[1.8] SEP 1.9>0[1.8] OCT 1.8>0[1.7] NOV 1.9>0[1.7] DEC 1.9>0[1.9] JAN 1.8>0[1.8] FEB 1.9>0[1.8]
LGA-YOW AUG 1.8>0[1.8] SEP 1.9>0[1.7] OCT 1.8>0[1.7] NOV 1.9>0[1.6] DEC 1.5>0[1.5] JAN 1.7>0[1.7] FEB 1.9>0[1.7]

So that leaves YOW with only UA as the only non-Canadian airline flying out of YOW.

Why did YOW lose many US destinations and airlines for this summer while YQB hasn't lost yet any frequency, airline or destination to the US even in July?

Those are:
UA YQB-EWR 3-4x daily
UA YQB-ORD 1x daily
AA YQB-ORD 1x daily
AA YQB-PHL 2x daily

hollywoodcory Jun 2, 2020 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samuelx88 (Post 8940495)
Why did YOW lose many US destinations and airlines for this summer while YQB hasn't lost yet any frequency, airline or destination to the US even in July?

Those are:
UA YQB-EWR 3-4x daily
UA YQB-ORD 1x daily
AA YQB-ORD 1x daily
AA YQB-PHL 2x daily

Neither UA or AA have updated their July schedules yet. I wouldn’t expect them to actually operate that schedule.

zahav Jun 3, 2020 1:14 AM

Cathay just updated their July scheds too. YVR will be their only long haul destination served daily. This is still so crazy to read, long haul frequencies of 3 weekly were essentially unheard of before, now that is considered good :o

Cathay Pacific in the last few days gradually filed changes to its schedule and inventory, as interim schedule extended to late-July 2020. For the month of July 2020, the airline continues to restore various long-haul flights, with additional frequencies added in the second half.

Planned changes as of 01JUN20 as follows. Further changes remain possible.

Hong Kong – Amsterdam 3 weekly A350-1000XWB (5 weekly from 18JUL20)
Hong Kong – Frankfurt 3 weekly A350-1000XWB (5 weekly from 20JUL20)
Hong Kong – London Heathrow 5 weekly A350-1000XWB (1 daily from 20JUL20)
Hong Kong – Los Angeles 4 weekly A350-1000XWB (1 daily from 15JUL20)
Hong Kong – Melbourne 3 weekly A350-1000XWB (4 weekly from 21JUL20)
Hong Kong – New York JFK 3 weekly 777-300ER
Hong Kong – Paris CDG eff 20JUL20 3 weekly A350-1000XWB
Hong Kong – San Francisco 3 weekly A350-900XWB (4 weekly from 18JUL20)
Hong Kong – Sydney 5 weekly A350-1000XWB (1 daily from 20JUL20)
Hong Kong – Toronto 3 weekly A350-1000XWB
Hong Kong – Vancouver 1 daily 777-300ER/A350-900XWB


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-01jun20/

thenoflyzone Jun 3, 2020 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zahav (Post 8940647)
Cathay just updated their July scheds too. YVR will be their only long haul destination served daily

LAX, LHR and SYD are going daily as well a few weeks after YVR.

With the protests regaining intensity in HKG, even all those 3x weekly frequencies look generous.

thenoflyzone Jun 3, 2020 3:05 PM

Trump will ban Chinese carriers from flying to the US as of June 16, unless the Chinese government allows US carriers access into China based on their reciprocal air agreement.

I don’t like Trump, but i agree with this move.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN23A248

kwoldtimer Jun 3, 2020 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8941086)
Trump will ban Chinese carriers from flying to the US as of June 16, unless the Chinese government allows US carriers access into China based on their reciprocal air agreement.

I don’t like Trump, but i agree with this move.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN23A248

More trips via Vancouver and Toronto? Does the Canada-USA closed border arrangement address transit passengers?

nname Jun 3, 2020 5:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer (Post 8941193)
More trips via Vancouver and Toronto? Does the Canada-USA closed border arrangement address transit passengers?

Unlikely to help even if Canada allows transit passengers from US.

All flights to China from anywhere in the world are full for at least 1-2 months. The one that are either won't be running at all (like AC's daily PEK/PVG starting July), or does not allow transit for China-bound passengers (HKG).

hollywoodcory Jun 3, 2020 6:28 PM

KLM has now loaded it's revised July schedule. As noted above in the press release only YVR and YYC will resume in addition to YYZ.

YYZ - Daily 78J
YVR - 3x weekly 78J replacing 77W
YYC - 2x weekly 772 replacing 333

Edelweiss also loaded a revised full summer schedule and both YVR & YYC survived with reduced frequencies (for now).

thenoflyzone Jun 3, 2020 7:31 PM

To tie in with the KL schedules, AF is slowly increasing service to YUL this month. Currently 4x weekly this week, going to 5x weekly next week, and to daily as of June 15.

They haven't finalized July yet, as most of the month is still showing 3 to 4 daily to YUL.

Edit: In other news, based on google flights, Royal Air Maroc is showing 2x daily to YUL as of June 16. Don't know if they simply haven't updated their schedules past that date, or if those flights are actually happening. it's only 2 weeks away, so we shall see. Also, TK is showing 2x weekly YUL service from June 14 and 3x weekly to YYZ from June 10. By the end of June, both routes are showing their normal frequencies, which are 3x weekly and 6x weekly, respectively. YVR launch, as mentioned on the YVR thread, is delayed to mid July.

casper Jun 3, 2020 8:51 PM

Some news reports that Trump is to ban all Chinese airlines from flying to the US. That should help increase transfer passengers in Vancouver and Toronto.

thenoflyzone Jun 3, 2020 9:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper (Post 8941503)
Some news reports that Trump is to ban all Chinese airlines from flying to the US. That should help increase transfer passengers in Vancouver and Toronto.

Already posted this earlier, and no, it won’t do much for transfer traffic at YYZ or YVR. The Chinese government will most likely buckle and give in by the deadline anyways.

thenoflyzone Jun 4, 2020 4:53 AM

speaking of which....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...KBN23B081?il=0

Quote:

China said it will ease coronavirus restrictions to allow more foreign carriers to fly to the mainland, shortly after Washington vowed to bar Chinese airlines from flying to the United States due to Beijing’s curbs on American airlines.

Still pretty stupid, if you ask me.

Quote:

The CAAC said all airlines will be allowed to increase the number of international flights involving China to a maximum of two per week if no passengers on their flights test positive for COVID-19 for three consecutive weeks.

If five passengers or more on one flight test positive for the coronavirus upon arrival, the CAAC would bar the airline from services for a week, it said. Airlines would be suspended for four weeks if 10 passengers or more test positive.

zahav Jun 4, 2020 4:28 PM

I didn't realize AC fully retired the 767 already from it's fleet already. I knew that was the plan but didn't know it just happened on June 2nd. See below. Also, good news for YYC, they are keeping the NRT flight!

Air Canada S21 Calgary – Tokyo aircraft changes as of 04JUN20
By Jim Liu
Posted4 June 2020 11:20

Air Canada in recent schedule update filed aircraft changes for Calgary – Tokyo Narita route, for summer 2021 season. Upon service resumption on 27MAR21, the Star Alliance carrier schedules Boeing 787-8 aircraft on this route, as the airline concluded Mainline Boeing 767 service on 02JUN20.

AC009 YYC1315 – 1435+1NRT 788 x1
AC010 NRT1625 – 1035YYC 788 x2

Service increases to 7 weekly from 03MAY21. The Star Alliance carrier on Tuesday (02JUN20) operated last Boeing 767-300ER scheduled service, as AC439 from Montreal to Toronto.


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-04jun20/

p_xavier Jun 4, 2020 4:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8942055)
speaking of which....

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...KBN23B081?il=0



Still pretty stupid, if you ask me.

There doesn't seem to be a plan for testing at airports in Canada yet. It's crazy how slow they officials are to act.

hollywoodcory Jun 4, 2020 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zahav (Post 8942450)
I didn't realize AC fully retired the 767 already from it's fleet already. I knew that was the plan but didn't know it just happened on June 2nd. See below. Also, good news for YYC, they are keeping the NRT flight!

Air Canada S21 Calgary – Tokyo aircraft changes as of 04JUN20
By Jim Liu
Posted4 June 2020 11:20

Air Canada in recent schedule update filed aircraft changes for Calgary – Tokyo Narita route, for summer 2021 season. Upon service resumption on 27MAR21, the Star Alliance carrier schedules Boeing 787-8 aircraft on this route, as the airline concluded Mainline Boeing 767 service on 02JUN20.

AC009 YYC1315 – 1435+1NRT 788 x1
AC010 NRT1625 – 1035YYC 788 x2

Service increases to 7 weekly from 03MAY21. The Star Alliance carrier on Tuesday (02JUN20) operated last Boeing 767-300ER scheduled service, as AC439 from Montreal to Toronto.


https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-04jun20/

AC already made this change back in April, and doesn’t necessarily mean it will actually operate. We still don’t even know when LHR will resume. But the fact that they scheduled a 787 rather than just cancelling the route is at least a positive sign.

thenoflyzone Jun 4, 2020 5:37 PM

^
It is encouraging, that's for sure.

Still plenty of Rouge routes are still showing B763 next summer though. So plenty of shuffling will happen, fleet wise.

In other news, BA will resume passenger flights to YYZ and YVR next month.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-03jun20/

Quote:

London Heathrow – Toronto 1 daily 787-9
London Heathrow – Vancouver 1 daily 777-200ER
Quote:

Originally Posted by p_xavier (Post 8942473)
There doesn't seem to be a plan for testing at airports in Canada yet. It's crazy how slow they officials are to act.

What kind of testing are you talking about? A temperature test is pointless, as you can be asymptomatic and still have COVID. You would need a swab test, or something else, that will tell you right away if you have the virus or not. That kind of screening costs more money, and getting the results right away probably costs even more money. Hence why officials aren't quick to act.

casper Jun 4, 2020 6:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8942552)
^
It is encouraging, that's for sure.

Still plenty of Rouge routes are still showing B763 next summer though. So plenty of shuffling will happen, fleet wise.

In other news, BA will resume passenger flights to YYZ and YVR next month.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-03jun20/





What kind of testing are you talking about? A temperature test is pointless, as you can be asymptomatic and still have COVID. You would need a swab test, or something else, that will tell you right away if you have the virus or not. That kind of screening costs more money, and getting the results right away probably costs even more money. Hence why officials aren't quick to act.

All the temperature test is tell you who has a high temperature and for some silly reason chose not to take some medication.


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