Holy! I hope this makes it to market. I haven't seen any demo notifications for the site nor permitting requests, so this is probably very conceptual.

I know. :( But the market conditions aren't there yet (nor have they been for nearly a decade, minus build to suit towers).

A good sign that this may not be conceptual is because Amanat's website shows the final designs for Horizons, Bayside and the yet to be built Kettner/Ash project Let's keep our fingers crossed that 777 Front will be coming on board next.

http://www.amanatarchitect.com/proje...sidential.html

On a related note, looks like Kettner and Ash looks to be taking off soon.

http://www.bosadev.com/coming-soon.html

The downtown office market needs to take off soon before it's end up like Vancouver's West End, where it's mostly residential towers with little commercial. It would be horrible to have a reverse commute from downtown to UTC, Sorrento Valley or Carlsbad. I'm hoping Makers Quarter and I.D.E.A. District will be a game changer.

I don't know why they haven't announced it yet (maybe they don't want to take attention away from Pacific Gate sales?), but Kettner & Ash has definitely broken ground already. I drive past it everyday on my reverse commute out of downtown (:(), and the lot is fenced off with construction vehicles and machines moving dirt.

Doesn't Bosa own the property at 1st and Island? That would be an awesome spot too.

That's already what it is. Isn't the UTC/Sorrento Valley already San Diego's largest employment center?

Yes he does. There was a proposal for that awhile back. Looked extremely bland. Hopefully they rethink that design. Does anybody remember when that site was going to be a tower KUSI newsroom? This was probably 14 years ago...

BOSA also owns the Office Depot parcel on Pacific Hwy/E street right? That would be another good signature tower location. Until the Naval Broadway Complex is built at least.

If I see one more waterfront proposal I am going to :lynchmob:

That's not to say I'm opposed to waterfront development, I'm just tired of the 983292302 proposals flying around the bay.

Makes it fun though to watch the angry NIMBY villagers take to the comment section in the UT to complain about height, density, parking, potholes, developers, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc.

From the south side, the proposed tower reminds me of the John Hancock in Boston

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...8.2-0_t837.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c2...0_r900x493.jpg

http://thegrapecatcher.com/hancock.jpg

It is strange that Bosa has been quiet about the groundbreaking of Kettner and Ash. Still not a bad looking design after all these years.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7229/...26b9ac5a_b.jpg

Probably, but I read somewhere that 80,000 people still work downtown, while 35,000 live there. It would be really terrible if it was the other way around.

Good point on both.

Exactly. We've seen so many of them that we're all a bit jaded. I do like the tower in the rendering, though.

Anybody go to the Horton Plaza Park opening?

Kinda underwhelmed by it, especially with the freaking starbucks right there, not sure if it was worth 18M.

But eh, San Diego now has a place to gather for big events

I can imagine showing WC games or the Superbowl there

I drove by it and it looks very cluttered. Not sure if they have a bunch of extra things out for the grand opening, but it doesn't seem like a park - more like a place to store crap. There was some very cheesy looking white picket fence snaking through it that looked temporary (at least I REALLY hope it's temporary). My hope is that after whatever they are doing for the opening is finished they will clear out the clutter and it will look more inviting

We've had some doozies for sure ;)

http://voiceofsandiego.org/wp-conten...02/neptune.jpg

I went to Horton plaza around noon and loved it.. It was cluttered because of the event.. Extra lights, speakers and seating. The Starbucks didn't bother me at all.

The old bank makes it look cramped, IMO. I'd probably preferred if the bank wasn't there, but it is a historical building and worth preserving.

I agree that it cramps the plaza. It wouldn't be so bad if the facade was facing the plaza instead of the blank wall. Though having a rotating mural/art exhibit on the wall is a nice touch, similar to Trafalgar Square.

And the roof is used to shoot fireworks.. So for New Years celebration it should be pretty awesome.. I wonder how they plan on doing the countdown :)