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tyleraf Aug 16, 2014 10:41 AM

CivicSD had the files up.

travis bickle Aug 16, 2014 4:52 PM

"I used to scratch my head when cities would build really wide residential streets, slap a 25mph speed limit down, then be forced to put in speed humps to slow traffic..."

Thank your local Fire Department...

eburress Aug 16, 2014 5:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 6692374)
^ Not sure I agree with this entirely. Yes, the more desirable older neighborhoods are fighting dentisy/mixed use, but many places like Kearny Mesa and Mission Valley may be beginning to embrace it. These areas, which have typically been office/commercial/industrial, are now adding lots of residential, which put homes closer to jobs. Granted they are not that walkable, but at least it is infill. (The city would be smart to encourage high rise development near Qualcomm in Sorrento valley too) Over time the older areas will embrace density too...they will either see that it has benefits, or the boomers will fade/leave.

True, but I'd hardly consider Kearny Mesa "desirable," at least not in relation to PB, OB, La Jolla, Pt Lomas, Del Mar, Coronado, etc...

SDfan Aug 16, 2014 7:57 PM

Interesting piece of news coming out of the San Diego Metro about a property in Hillcrest...

Quote:

Park Boulevard Properties Sell for $6.2 Million

GLD Housing Inc. has acquired five commercial parcels on Park Boulevard in the Uptown area of San Diego for a total of $6.2 million. The company intends to redevelop the site for HUD housing and to build a fourth Tower on Park for senior and low-income housing. The properties sit on the highest point in Hillcrest, in close proximity to Mission Valley, Banker’s Hill and North Park.

The five parcels are 3952, 3958, 3960, 3968 and 3974 Park Blvd. and total 24,900 square feet. Cushman & Wakefield was the broker.

http://www.sandiegometro.com/2014/08...t-aug-15-2014/
I'm assuming the 4th tower is part of the Cathedral Towers at University and Park. There are the two towers on the east side of park, and another small tower on the west side.

I's like to know how they plan on overcoming the interim height limit (65') in the neighborhood.

Northparkwizard Aug 16, 2014 8:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 6693797)
I's like to know how they plan on overcoming the interim height limit (65') in the neighborhood.

Apply for a variance. They wouldn't buy a 6.2 million dollar property without some confidence that what they're proposing to build there would be approved. That's just a hypothesis.

At a glance it seems like there's a precedent (the adjacent towers), a need for density/affordable housing, and it's a goodwill project for Todd Gloria's district.

If he wants it to happen, it will.

Though, I'd have to say it would be hilarious/insane to watch a group of retired seniors oppose the construction of another retirement/senior tower next to there own tower. Just imagining the uptown planning committee meetings on this project makes me bored to death. Ugh.

spoonman Aug 18, 2014 4:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Northparkwizard (Post 6693855)
Apply for a variance. They wouldn't buy a 6.2 million dollar property without some confidence that what they're proposing to build there would be approved. That's just a hypothesis.

At a glance it seems like there's a precedent (the adjacent towers), a need for density/affordable housing, and it's a goodwill project for Todd Gloria's district.

If he wants it to happen, it will.

Though, I'd have to say it would be hilarious/insane to watch a group of retired seniors oppose the construction of another retirement/senior tower next to there own tower. Just imagining the uptown planning committee meetings on this project makes me bored to death. Ugh.

I would love to see new high rise(s) in this area. To me it is sad that we built taller structures in these neighborhoods in the 60's/70's than we do today. Even through the NIMBY's have had some recent successes, almost every argument is stacked against them and I believe the city is determined to increase density, it just has to be done in a politically viable way.

tyleraf Aug 19, 2014 1:41 AM

SD might be getting a gondola from Petco to Balboa Park. http://sandiegonewsroom.com/business...high-ambitions

spoonman Aug 19, 2014 2:06 AM

This is a fun gimmick for tourists, but it concern me that this is looked at as viable transportation in a major metropolitan area. What is the status with the rail line running from Downtown to Balboa Park (eventually continuing to Norma Heights) via Park Blvd?

SDfan Aug 19, 2014 2:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 6696400)
This is a fun gimmick for tourists, but it concern me that this is looked at as viable transportation in a major metropolitan area. What is the status with the rail line running from Downtown to Balboa Park (eventually continuing to Norma Heights) via Park Blvd?

I spoke with SANDAG staff a few weeks ago about the street car proposal between city college and the zoo. As far as they're concerned, it's a dead proposal and they are focusing on transitioning the mid-city rapid line to LRT sooner rather than later.

They don't see the feasibility in putting in a streetcar along a route that is also supposed to support bike lanes, LRT, and regular street traffic plus medians and pedestrians. The street cars also have different infrastructure than LRT, and move slower than their LRT cousins - making shared tracks impossible (the vintage street cars currently serving downtown were retrofitted to support use on LRT tracks, which wouldn't be feasible to do on newer street cars).

Our best bet would be the transition of mid-city rapid to LRT be pushed up. It's the next line to be built after mid-coast, but it's still a long way off (2035-ish).

As for the gondola, whatever. I'm sure I would enjoy it if it were built, but I wouldn't cry if this ended up in the ever growing graveyard of SD proposals.

spoonman Aug 19, 2014 2:38 AM

Sad news about the streetcar line. That seemed like our quick and dirty hope for a rail line into mid-city. Guess we will have to fight to push the date up for the LRT line.

Will the brt line run up Park Blvd or through Banker's Hill?

spoonman Aug 19, 2014 5:32 AM

Trying to find more details on this new Mission Valley project.

http://sandiegonewsroom.com/communit...no-de-la-reina

spoonman Aug 19, 2014 5:55 AM

Renaissance Inn going in on Camino Del Rio S.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...qxswWv3jE4gBDQ

SDfan Aug 19, 2014 5:56 AM

Found this on the project from the recorded minutes at the MV community planning meeting last year:

http://www.sandiego.gov/planning/com...13junminmv.pdf

(pg. 6-7)

Quote:

Camino Del Rio Project – Informational Item
Josh Vasbinder with the Dinerstein Companies introduced Bob Brittingham and John Hellinga and provided the DAB with an overview of the development. The Camino del Rio project site is located at 730 Camino del Rio North on the old Bob Baker site. The proposed project would involve demolition of the existing structure and surface parking and construct a mixed-use, transit-oriented development consisting of residential, retail, and live/work units that wrap-around a parking structure. Access to the project site occurs via a new driveway off Camino del Arroyo and via Camino del Rio North. Selected components of the presentation included: Mission Valley Planning Group Minutes-June 05, 2013 Page 7

- 291 Residential for-rent units, consisting of studios to 2-bedroom units in 4-5 story buildings.
- 18 Live/work units totaling approximately 9,000 square feet of work space.
- 4,000 square feet of retail commercial space.
- Parking is provided in a 5-story above-ground parking structure with 570 parking stalls and 68 surface stalls, for a total of 638 parking stalls (578 required). The parking structure is naturally ventilated. Traffic generated by the development is proposed to be within the existing allocated ADTs.
- Since the 5.38 acre site lies in the 100-year flood plain, fill material will be imported to elevate the site.
- The development is proposed to be consistent with the existing zoning (mixed use).
- The project will seek a minimum certification of LEED silver.
- The proposed schedule includes submission to the City during the first week in September, with an estimated construction start in the first quarter 2015 and completion targeted toward the end of 2016.
on
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The project is being called "Millennium." It appears to be a classic Texas wrap around (parking in the center, apartments on the exterior). I hope the quality is better than the Collwood structures they built. They look pretty on the outside, but they're cheap and asylum-like on the interior.

spoonman Aug 19, 2014 5:58 AM

Interesting articles about Mission Valley development.

http://www.sddt.com/Commentary/artic...e#.U_Ljnd7n_IU

http://www.cresa.com/5970

mello Aug 19, 2014 6:24 AM

Very excited to see old underutilized properties in Mission Valley getting re purposed like boat and car dealerships I was actually just thinking about that line of car dealerships on the South side of I-8 two days ago and how eventually they will be replaced by residential buildings. The author of the Spoonman article I think is a bit negative in saying the Qualcomm site will take 2 or 3 decades to get going. Maybe 2 decades to be completely built out with 6000 units but it will get going soon in my opinion.

Oh and what is the new crane for to the east of Renaissance in UTC right by the 805?

spoonman Aug 19, 2014 2:45 PM

Mello, you can see it on this webcam. Looks like more Renaissance apartments?

http://earthcam.com/clients/irvineco...ter/?cam=pano1

Leo the Dog Aug 19, 2014 4:47 PM

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Originally Posted by spoonman (Post 6696918)
Mello, you can see it on this webcam. Looks like more Renaissance apartments?

http://earthcam.com/clients/irvineco...ter/?cam=pano1

That's a fun video.

Regarding the gondola, that could be a pretty cool tourist attraction to the zoo, but I doubt this would ever get built. Just imagine the fight from residents. Funny how they think it could be easily expanded to Fashion Valley and so on.

mello Aug 19, 2014 8:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mello (Post 6696618)
Very excited to see old underutilized properties in Mission Valley getting re purposed like boat and car dealerships I was actually just thinking about that line of car dealerships on the South side of I-8 two days ago and how eventually they will be replaced by residential buildings. The author of the Spoonman article I think is a bit negative in saying the Qualcomm site will take 2 or 3 decades to get going. Maybe 2 decades to be completely built out with 6000 units but it will get going soon in my opinion.

Oh and what is the new crane for to the east of Renaissance in UTC right by the 805?

EDIT: Correction its La Jolla Crossroads that is adding more units not Renaissance.

tyleraf Aug 20, 2014 3:44 AM

Good news regarding trolley usage. http://www.kpbs.org/news/2014/aug/19...last-fiscal-y/

spoonman Aug 20, 2014 4:20 AM

Some news from February regarding the Hillcrest height limit proposal. Sounds like there was a weak compromise by various groups (50 ft without review, 65 ft with some buildr concessions, and 100 ft with major NIMBY scrutiny), but the city will ultimately decide the height limits. I hope the city decides on a limit of at least 120 ft. The residents are going to turn that neighborhood into 5 story stucco box-ville with a proposed 50-65 ft limit...short sighted.

http://sandiegonewsroom.com/communit...t-height-limit

Anyone know if Leo Wilson has been booted from the Uptown Planners position?


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