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someone123 Sep 18, 2018 5:37 AM

[Halifax] 1874 Brunswick Street | 12 fl | 34 m | Cancelled
 
This will be a 12 storey hotel on the corner of Brunswick and Gottingen.

Report presented to the municipal Design Review Committee:

https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...3_reduced2.pdf

Rendering:

https://imageshack.com/a/img921/5615/Pf4yHj.jpg

OldDartmouthMark Sep 19, 2018 5:14 PM

Interesting project, but the architecture is a little disappointing based on the renderings. For such a prominent spot I was hoping for something that made a statement, not the typical mishmash of shapes and materials that seems to be popular today. Perhaps something that would accentuate the flatiron-esque layout of the corner might do it justice.

Also noted that there will only be 12 parking stalls in the building, although the building will have 171 units. Presumably they will provide valet-style offsite parking for their guests?

someone123 Sep 19, 2018 5:28 PM

I agree about the architectural design. Hopefully it will evolve and be simplified.

Still a big step up from what's there now though, and another small step toward filling in the gaps between downtown and the North End.

hoser111 Sep 19, 2018 6:43 PM

Here's the St. John's version. Presumably this will be of the same ilk....

http://www.olympic-construction.nf.c...ect/jag-hotel/

OldDartmouthMark Sep 19, 2018 7:18 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8319849)
I agree about the architectural design. Hopefully it will evolve and be simplified.

Still a big step up from what's there now though, and another small step toward filling in the gaps between downtown and the North End.

True enough. I am hoping for an evolution/improvement in design, but I can be a little impatient for change when it looks obviously bad to me.

But you're right, it will be a large improvement over the current situation regardless.

beyeas Sep 20, 2018 2:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hoser111 (Post 8319959)
Here's the St. John's version. Presumably this will be of the same ilk....

http://www.olympic-construction.nf.c...ect/jag-hotel/

yikes

mleblanc Sep 20, 2018 3:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hoser111 (Post 8319959)
Here's the St. John's version. Presumably this will be of the same ilk....

http://www.olympic-construction.nf.c...ect/jag-hotel/

Looks like a hospital building.

JET Sep 20, 2018 4:23 PM

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Originally Posted by mleblanc (Post 8320996)
Looks like a hospital building.

not bland enough for a hospital building

mleblanc Sep 20, 2018 5:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JET (Post 8321076)
not bland enough for a hospital building

Are we looking at a pictue of the same hotel?

JET Sep 21, 2018 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mleblanc (Post 8321164)
Are we looking at a pictue of the same hotel?

The one that looks like it was made of red and grey lego?

Marty_Mcfly Feb 15, 2019 2:52 PM

Quote:

Jag Looking To Open Second Location In Halifax

A St. John’s hotelier is expanding one of his brands outside the province.

JAG Hotel, owned by Steele Hotels, is looking to open a second location in the Cogswell District of Halifax. The proposed development will feature 10 floors and 170 rooms near the Metro Centre in Halifax.

John Steele says they are still awaiting approval on the project. He is hopeful that construction will get underway in late spring or early summer.

Meanwhile, plans are ongoing to expand JAG’s footprint in the west end of St. John’s. Steele says city officials appear upbeat about the project. Once approved, it will be bigger than the new Halifax hotel.

He says it will have about the same number of rooms, but will include a new multi-purpose room.

http://vocm.com/news/jag-looking-to-...on-in-halifax/

Heads up, Halifax.

OldDartmouthMark Feb 15, 2019 3:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly (Post 8475354)

Interesting that they call it the Metro Centre rather than the Scotiabank Centre...

I thought mention of this project was posted here last year for this corner...

Edit: Post was moved from the General thread. No longer has relevance.

Hali87 Feb 18, 2019 3:35 AM

The renderings make it look like a sad amalgam of everything that exists on that block with some purple spandrel thrown in just to make it worse. What I feel they should have gone for is something like the Vic or the Pearl - visually striking and making good use of the site. Those (hopefully very conceptual) renderings look tacky and hideous IMO and waste one of the only remaining opportunities to build something on that block that's both large-ish and not a dull slab. This is fronting the Citadel and will (presumably) be there for decades; we should be demanding better than this. With the right materials (and colours) it has potential to be a decent building but I'd hesitate to say a great one.

someone123 Feb 18, 2019 4:01 AM

It doesn't address the corner or the slope very well. A lot of older buildings in Halifax have (or had) elegant corner entrances or ornamentation, windows and storefronts that follow the slope of the street, etc. The cheap, poor equivalent is a plain concrete plinth.

Hopefully the DRC insisted on some changes.

someone123 Jul 25, 2019 5:34 PM

This is going before the DRC tonight. Report: https://www.halifax.ca/sites/default...0725drc911.pdf

hoser111 Jul 26, 2019 11:42 AM

Passed the DRC.....

HALIFAX—A committee has approved a 12-storey hotel for a prominent site in downtown Halifax, though there are still some details to iron out.

Halifax’s design review committee met Thursday evening to consider the proposal for the corner of Brunswick and Gottingen streets from Fougere Menchenton Architecture Inc. on behalf of Steele Hotels Ltd., owned by Newfoundland Capital Corp. founder John Steele.

Steele’s company operates six hotels in Newfoundland. This hotel will be branded like the JAG in St. John’s — “a masterpiece within the heart and soul of North America’s oldest city,” according to its website.

“This is a very high-end brand,” Ron Fougere, president of Fougere Menchenton, told the committee.

https://www.thestar.com/halifax/2019...n-halifax.html

someone123 Jul 26, 2019 5:07 PM

The rendering in the article is much better than what was in the report:

https://images.thestar.com/aUX5VmJlv...le_hotel25.jpg

I still think the corner is a bit weak but I like the taller lower floors.

The public benefit portion for the height bonus is an aboriginal themed gallery. There was some discussion of whether the gallery space provided is good enough to qualify or if it would be redundant with the Friendship Centre nearby.

This argument seems a bit weak since the benefit is based on a dollar value that the developer is exceeding, and if anything being next door to the Friendship Centre might make this more valuable since it would be easy to visit both. It's good that they're not proposing more lighthouse statues.

Keith P. Jul 26, 2019 5:57 PM

A better public benefit would be an enclosed escalator for the uphill sidewalk adjacent on the south side.

IanWatson Jul 26, 2019 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 8642643)
The public benefit portion for the height bonus is an aboriginal themed gallery. There was some discussion of whether the gallery space provided is good enough to qualify or if it would be redundant with the Friendship Centre nearby.

I don't think the main issue was the redundancy (though it did come up), but the fact that it's on the second floor of the hotel. Sounds like it's less of a "public" gallery and more of an amenity for the hotel guests.

Dmajackson Jun 10, 2020 12:26 AM

Case 22322: Incentive or Bonus Zoning Agreement 1872-1874 Brunswick Street, Halifax


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