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GaylordWilshire Jun 22, 2015 4:12 PM

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6...CDUP.jpg?gl=USHLA


Lumber dealer James Shultz had Harwood Hewitt build 53 Fremont Place in 1918—it's still there, if in the shadow of a condominium facing Wilshire Blvd. The Shultzes stayed for about eight years...then among others came Emma Rhinock and her much married children, one of whom, Laura, married silent star Roy D'Arcy—twice. Her end would be noirish....

The story of the house and its inhabitants is here: http://bit.ly/1GAW8dM (FB page: http://on.fb.me/1roPXOM)


We don't seem to have come across Roy before. Here's a great informative bio of him by Larry Harnisch: http://ladailymirror.com/2014/12/15/...devilish-grin/

http://ladailymirror.files.wordpress...pg?w=684&h=886Mary Mallory

HossC Jun 22, 2015 4:56 PM

The house on the far left is still there (below), although the view from this angle is obscured by trees. It's quite possible that the one on the right is also still there, but the trees are so thick on that side that I can't be sure.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icLucerne1.jpg
GSV

This house on Lucerne is difficult to see from the road, but can be seen from the air.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...icLucerne2.jpg
Google Maps

GaylordWilshire Jun 22, 2015 5:26 PM


The Samuel Markowitz house at 96 Fremont Place, the rear of which is seen at right in BRR's shots, is still there. What's very rare is a view in the middle shot--if fuzzy--of one of the curving colonnades that were originally part of the four Fremont Place gates (more here and here).

More on 96 Fremont here.

The Olympic Special lamp standards, if not the teardrop fixtures, are still in place. The one at the NE corner seen close-up in BRR's third shot may be the same one (if it wasn't, say, knocked down by a car at some point and replaced).


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y....bmp.jpg?gl=USGSV

ethereal_reality Jun 22, 2015 6:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7070653)
The parapet of the Beverly Wilshire Hotel looking north on Rodeo. That's the Beverly Hills Presbyterian church in the left distance, on the NW corner of Rodeo Drive and Big Santa Monica.

Thanks tovanger2. I should have known it was the roof of the Beverly Wilshire Hotel. (I briefly worked there)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/1BjADz.jpg
gsv

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eBay

ethereal_reality Jun 22, 2015 7:29 PM

President Wilson, taken on 12th St. near S. Hope. Sept. 20, 1919, Los Angeles Calif.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/DGTvYx.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-191...item5420b978f4



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XLarge view
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/DGTvYx.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-191...item5420b978f4

oldstuff Jun 22, 2015 7:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7070980)



:previous: Thank you for the followups, HenryHuntington and HossC.






Edward R. Murrow: "THIS . . . is . . . Olympic Boulevard."


Building would have looked equally at home on the Thames as well as Olympic Blvd.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../88933/rec/172



1940. Cue the Alma Mater
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Fascinating light standards.
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Light standard close ups.
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Lucerne
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Panel truck.
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Can I borrow your homework?


This 1940 Letterman (or Member of Parliament) would likely be in his early '90s today. I sincerely hope he is still around.)
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Interesting decoration around the call box
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Is a good Notary hard to find?
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Guy V. Colf, whose "for sale" sign is seen here, was born in Wisconsin, in 1887,the son of a bricklayer. His family came to Los Angeles before 1910. His WWI draft card, signed in 1917 has his address as 4216 Dalton Avenue. This house is still there The next place he lived was at 113 S. Larchmont in 1922. By 1932 he lived at 1833 Victoria Avenue.

When Googling his name, recent real estate sales reveal a house he did build, 1838 Buckingham, in Lafayette Square, built in 1923. The real estate site has pictures of the property outside and also the interior

GaylordWilshire Jun 22, 2015 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7071287)
President Wilson, taken on 12th St. near S. Hope. Sept. 20, 1919, Los Angeles Calif.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/DGTvYx.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-191...item5420b978f4


Some Times photos from his visit to LA in 1919--apparently he suffered his debilitating stroke before he got back to Washington.


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All LAT

Flyingwedge Jun 22, 2015 8:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7071287)
President Wilson, taken on 12th St. near S. Hope. Sept. 20, 1919, Los Angeles Calif.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/DGTvYx.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-191...item5420b978f4

Very interesting, er! That's quite a large eagle on the front of the car.

This photo was taken just five days before Wilson collapsed at Pueblo, Colorado, and obviously less than two weeks before his October 2 stroke.

In the photo Wilson is passing in front of the evangelical church on the NE corner of 12th and Hope: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=25666

ethereal_reality Jun 22, 2015 8:39 PM

:previous: Good eye Flyingwedge. I was hoping someone might recognize the buildings in the Wilson photo.

Martin Pal Jun 22, 2015 8:59 PM

Interesting Pres. Wilson posts.

Martin Pal Jun 22, 2015 9:00 PM

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ethereal_reality Jun 22, 2015 10:17 PM

I recently came across this amazing photograph on eBay.



The E.W. Jones Building.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/EhYNxq.jpg
eBay


Above E.W. Jones, it also says 7th Regiment Armory. huh?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/4rrnmd.jpg


So I take it this was the regiment's location before moving to the Copeland Building on the northwest corner of 8th and Spring streets?

Copeland Building
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detail / the lower right corner.
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I found this address, 611 S. Broadway for Coons
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-while looking for the E.W. Jones Building, I also found this:
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http://pcad.lib.washington.edu/building/17376/

unihikid Jun 22, 2015 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7070980)



:previous: Thank you for the followups, HenryHuntington and HossC.






Edward R. Murrow: "THIS . . . is . . . Olympic Boulevard."


Building would have looked equally at home on the Thames as well as Olympic Blvd.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../88933/rec/172



1940. Cue the Alma Mater
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Up until maybe 2004 the LARWY row was still peaking out of the street. I lived on the 1200 block of Windsor for about a yr, and i remember freaking out when i found the " track crack" "(as Ralph Cantos calls it) in the middle of the street. it went west a bit then made a left onto Victoria heading north.. I'm not too sure what this line was called but i know its labeled as 10th street. I know i took some photos of the "track crack" but im sure they are back in Dallas.

Tetsu Jun 23, 2015 1:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7068767)

further information
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"Brown-Israel Outfitting Co. Clothes on Credit" bulb sign

F.W. Braun Building, 1913. W.J. Sauder, architect

Brown-Israel Outfitting Company. -enlarged to six stories in 1922.

architect: Benjamin Bloser

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I knew I would have a lot of catching up to do after a week in Hawaii!

I'm almost certain the correct spelling of the architect's name is W.J. Saunders. He designed other commercial buildings in DTLA during the 20's, but he may be best known for the two Swiss Chalet Craftsman bungalows he designed in Pasadena, the Rhodes house (1906) at 365 W. Bellevue Drive, as shown in this Michael Locke photo:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...psfdjcekhd.jpgMichael Locke on Flickr

And the Bartlett house at 572 Prospect Boulevard:

http://pasadena.cfwebtools.com/image...ospect_572.jpgCHRID

Tetsu Jun 23, 2015 1:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7065052)
I don't believe we've seen this fascinating photograph on NLA. (even if we have...it deserves a second look ;))


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eBay. Scroll right----> to see Sol's Liquor Store.

I believe this is the intersection of Sunset Blvd. and N. Alameda Street.

If this is a double post (and I don't remember seeing it before), I'll just go on record with saying that any photo with the Sentous Block in it deserves a second look, at the minimum. :D

Tetsu Jun 23, 2015 1:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7062581)
Speaking, as we have been, of W 8th St and Masonic lodges and Westlake, I don't think the Westlake Masonic Lodge on W 8th has ever been mentioned here. It didn't make la.curbed's "magnificent Masonic architecture" list, but it's very nice just the same.

Built on the SW corner of W 8th and S Burlington in 1916, on a never-before-built lot, it has a grand piano nobile over a retail base. Great windows:
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The 1890 home at 807 S Burlington (pictured above) seems more than a little overwhelmed by the brick bulk of the lodge.

Everyone knows Bradbeer & Ferris' 1894 Frederick Mitchell Mooers house at 818 S Bonnie Brae, just around the corner from the Masons (an upper corner of the lodge may be just glimpsed at left):
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0...15011%2BAM.jpg
iamnotastalker

I don't know how I've missed that Masonic Lodge all these years - now I'll have to go check it out in person.

And, everyone knows the Mooers house, but I've never seen that photo - er, screen cap, really - of it. Very interesting read and set of photos overall from IAmNotAStalker.

GaylordWilshire Jun 23, 2015 1:59 AM

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Originally Posted by unihikid (Post 7071636)
Up until maybe 2004 the LARWY row was still peaking out of the street. I lived on the 1200 block of Windsor for about a yr, and i remember freaking out when i found the " track crack" "(as Ralph Cantos calls it) in the middle of the street. it went west a bit then made a left onto Victoria heading north.. I'm not too sure what this line was called but i know its labeled as 10th street. I know i took some photos of the "track crack" but im sure they are back in Dallas.


When the tracks were exposed:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/526...3rdhigh192.jpg

From ER's post, 2009:http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=550

ethereal_reality Jun 23, 2015 2:01 AM

Rare snapshots dated March 1912 showing the palisades at Santa Monica.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-2-Origin...item43de8e2055


reverse
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photo #2.

a bit blurry...but still pretty impressive.
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photo #2 reverse
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BifRayRock Jun 23, 2015 2:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7071104)
What's very rare is a view in the middle shot--if fuzzy--of one of the curving colonnades that were originally part of the four Fremont Place gates (more here and here).





Maybe slightly better view of the colonnades?



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GaylordWilshire Jun 23, 2015 2:12 AM

:previous:


Yes, excellent, BRR. Thanks.


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