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JHikka Apr 16, 2019 2:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8541863)
If "Empire" is inappropriate for what it evokes then maybe having a big city in that location named for a place in England (Edmonton), is inappropriate too.

Depends on how far you want to go down the rabbit hole, you know? ;)

Acajack Apr 16, 2019 2:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8541867)
Depends on how far you want to go down the rabbit hole, you know? ;)

I won't be taking us there personally. Just reporting on the view from the bridge.

osmo Apr 16, 2019 6:38 PM

In this current climate of outrage, it shouldn't be the public who seem the Edmonton Eskimo name offensive. If the football team consults and has a dialogue with the Inuit community and they are okay with the name they can carry on. If the Inuit community prefers a change, then explore changing it. The Eskimos should not bend to general public pressure which borders on madness these days over every little thing.

esquire Apr 16, 2019 6:45 PM

^ I've read reports over the years that have suggested there are mixed feelings about it in the Inuit community, it's not really a slam dunk like Redskins which probably just about every Indigenous person hates. Some like it and take it as a point of pride, some are offended.

But really, pressure will only continue to mount until change inevitably happens. The Eskimos might as well make the change gracefully before it becomes an embarrassment like the Washington Redskins.

Acajack Apr 16, 2019 6:56 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8542276)
^ I've read reports over the years that have suggested there are mixed feelings about it in the Inuit community, it's not really a slam dunk like Redskins which probably just about every Indigenous person hates. Some like it and take it as a point of pride, some are offended.

But really, pressure will only continue to mount until change inevitably happens. The Eskimos might as well make the change gracefully before it becomes an embarrassment like the Washington Redskins.

I think if ever the issue were to become "public", the outcome would be a foregone conclusion. These days it doesn't take long for these things to become a lightning rod and they almost always tilt in the same direction. The day the "Eskimos" name becomes an issue is the day its goose is cooked.

MonctonRad Apr 16, 2019 6:57 PM

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Originally Posted by osmo (Post 8542259)
In this current climate of outrage, it shouldn't be the public who seem the Edmonton Eskimo name offensive.

Agreed.

A main problem I have with SJW's is that they are professional protesters. This is what they do for a living. Once they get redress for one particular perceived wrong, they will move on to the next one, and then another one, until eventually their pious moral outrage gets focussed on the most trivial of issues.

It is important not to feed their outsized and misdirected moral outrage. You'll only encourage them.........

Xelebes Apr 16, 2019 7:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8541808)
:hmmm:



:shrug:

Elk, elks, elkenkind

esquire Apr 16, 2019 7:39 PM

OK, I think I've got it...

I give you

THE EDMONTON ERADICATORS

https://media.giphy.com/media/MzTqj5...facebook_s.jpg

(Apologies to all the young people who have no idea what I'm talking about)

elly63 Apr 16, 2019 8:06 PM

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Originally Posted by osmo (Post 8542259)
In this current climate of outrage, it shouldn't be the public who seem the Edmonton Eskimo name offensive. If the football team consults and has a dialogue with the Inuit community and they are okay with the name they can carry on. If the Inuit community prefers a change, then explore changing it. The Eskimos should not bend to general public pressure which borders on madness these days over every little thing.

AMEN! I was going to bold a few words above, but everything in it is bang on.

elly63 Apr 16, 2019 8:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 8542294)
A main problem I have with SJW's is that they are professional protesters. This is what they do for a living. Once they get redress for one particular perceived wrong, they will move on to the next one, and then another one, until eventually their pious moral outrage gets focussed on the most trivial of issues.

It is important not to feed their outsized and misdirected moral outrage. You'll only encourage them.........

The problem I have is this is only going to be temporary, political correctness has only a few more good years in it and then its gone, and then we'll have lost a large amount of history, and culture and for what.

Acajack Apr 16, 2019 9:11 PM

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Originally Posted by elly63 (Post 8542404)
The problem I have is this is only going to be temporary, political correctness has only a few more good years in it and then its gone, and then we'll have lost a large amount of history, and culture and for what.

Brace yourself for when the pendulum swings back!

JHikka Apr 18, 2019 3:27 PM

CBC Sports and MEDIAPRO Canada announced today a partnership that will see live coverage of 20 games throughout the 2019 season of Canada’s new tier-one men’s professional soccer league, the Canadian Premier League (CPL), on CBC Sports platforms. CBC will be the exclusive free-to-air television broadcast home for 10 Canadian Premier League games, offering 10 live key events throughout the season. An additional 10 games will be available via free live streaming coverage at cbcsports.ca, the CBC Gem streaming service, and via the CBC Sports app for iOS and Android devices. All games will be produced by MEDIAPRO.

The first game kicks off at 1 p.m. ET (10 a.m. PT) on Saturday, April 27 at Tim Hortons Field in Hamilton, Ontario, as Forge FC (Hamilton) hosts Ontario rivals York9 FC (York Region), and Canadians can tune in to catch all the action of the beautiful game on CBC and the CBC Gem streaming service. The full schedule of games included in the partnership is below.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cpl-network...091549/CBC.png

https://canpl.ca/article/cbc-sports-...-of-cpl-season

Acajack Apr 18, 2019 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JHikka (Post 8544755)
CBC Sports and MEDIAPRO Canada announced today a partnership that will see live coverage of 20 games throughout the 2019 season of Canada’s new tier-one men’s professional soccer league, the Canadian Premier League (CPL), on CBC Sports platforms. CBC will be the exclusive free-to-air television broadcast home for 10 Canadian Premier League games, offering 10 live key events throughout the season. An additional 10 games will be available via free live streaming coverage at cbcsports.ca, the CBC Gem streaming service, and via the CBC Sports app for iOS and Android devices. All games will be produced by MEDIAPRO.

The first game kicks off at 1 p.m. ET (10 a.m. PT) on Saturday, April 27 at Tim Hortons Field in Hamilton, Ontario, as Forge FC (Hamilton) hosts Ontario rivals York9 FC (York Region), and Canadians can tune in to catch all the action of the beautiful game on CBC and the CBC Gem streaming service. The full schedule of games included in the partnership is below.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/cpl-network...091549/CBC.png

https://canpl.ca/article/cbc-sports-...-of-cpl-season

I wish the CPL well, but it's noteworthy how the CBC continues to rely on "cheapie" sports properties.

esquire Apr 18, 2019 4:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8544781)
I wish the CPL well, but it's noteworthy how the CBC continues to rely on "cheapie" sports properties.

It makes sense for CBC to be involved in covering Canadian sports that tend to be ignored by the big media companies. TSN and SN are practically built on the model of having the big eyeball-drawing sports properties like NHL, NFL, CFL, MLB, etc. CBC would have a hard time outbidding them... might as well focus on the stuff being neglected by those networks.

I'd love to see CBC cover other things that seldom get national coverage these days like CHL/AHL hockey and U-Sports.

Acajack Apr 18, 2019 4:11 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8544822)
It makes sense for CBC to be involved in covering Canadian sports that tend to be ignored by the big media companies. TSN and SN are practically built on the model of having the big eyeball-drawing sports properties like NHL, NFL, CFL, MLB, etc. CBC would have a hard time outbidding them... might as well focus on the stuff being neglected by those networks.

I'd love to see CBC cover other things that seldom get national coverage these days like CHL/AHL hockey and U-Sports.

I can see that and I agree. The CBC needs to rebuild its sports division, especially when it comes to pro team sports.

esquire Apr 18, 2019 4:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8544832)
I can see that and I agree. The CBC needs to rebuild its sports division, especially when it comes to pro team sports.

CBC used to be so good. They had all the big pro stuff, HNIC, CFL, sometimes the Blue Jays/Expos depending on who held the rights. But they also crushed at amateur sports too, not just international level competition but even things like high school sports... something like regional broadcast TV coverage of a girls volleyball final like this would be damn near unimaginable today:

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5092746.155516878...vball-1986.jpg

These days they have retrenched into the smaller calibre stuff. There is a ton of stuff on the CBC Sports app, but I have to admit that I never check it even though it's on my phone... there is something about the ease of channel surfing that is impossible for apps to match. Apps are good if you are already a hardcore fan of something.

Acajack Apr 18, 2019 6:43 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8544852)
CBC used to be so good. They had all the big pro stuff, HNIC, CFL, sometimes the Blue Jays/Expos depending on who held the rights. But they also crushed at amateur sports too, not just international level competition but even things like high school sports... something like regional broadcast TV coverage of a girls volleyball final like this would be damn near unimaginable today:

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5092746.155516878...vball-1986.jpg

These days they have retrenched into the smaller calibre stuff. There is a ton of stuff on the CBC Sports app, but I have to admit that I never check it even though it's on my phone... there is something about the ease of channel surfing that is impossible for apps to match. Apps are good if you are already a hardcore fan of something.

SRC, the French CBC, was much the same.

When I was growing up they had a program called Les Héros du Samedi, sandwiched in between the barrage of Saturday morning cartoons. It featured all sorts of sports: with one (seemingly) randomly-chosen event broadcast each week. IIRC the kids were generally teens or younger (often quite a bit younger). The idea wasn't about allowing you to follow a specific sport (one week could have hockey from Montreal, the next basketball from Quebec City, then skiing from the Laurentians, equestrian, figure skating, etc.) It was about giving the kids some exposure on TV. It was covered just like pro sports with pre and post-game interviews, their names on the screen and everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFLB8zbAZFw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs_u8SBz2AY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdiOE8bOins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyH_2lIEink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oAE3-1ua3g

esquire Apr 18, 2019 6:50 PM

^ Les Heros du Samedi is incredible, it's hard to imagine something like that existing today!

Acajack Apr 18, 2019 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 8545165)
^ Les Heros du Samedi is incredible, it's hard to imagine something like that existing today!

Yeah, it's hard to imagine network TV coverage that includes a two-person mobile team (in a car or on a motorcycle) for a cycling race run by 10-year-old kids!

JHikka Apr 19, 2019 10:04 PM

Saturday, April 13, 2019:
Raptors & Magic (SN1) - 788K

Sunday, April 14, 2019:
Masters (CTV & TSN) - 1.15M

Monday, April 15, 2019:
WWE Raw (SN360) - 357K
Jays & Twins (SN1) - 259K

Wednesday, April 17, 2019:
Leafs & Bruins (CBC) - 2.03M
Flames & Avs (CBC) - 944K
Jays & Twins (SN1) - 248K
Preds & Stars (SN) - 217K

Numbers via @BillBriouxTV on Twitter.


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