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Don B. Oct 4, 2012 12:41 PM

Rode 12 miles on my new bicycle yesterday morning, than ran and hiked last night.

:)

--don

HooverDam Oct 4, 2012 3:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 5855037)
Nice job, Hoover. Glad to see local TV news has taken a break from their usual obsession with weather, crime, & traffic to cover this issue. I guess one upside of quitting your bad job is a little time for worthwhile community activities like this one. Thanks for being out there.

Yup, I figured I could email out resumes while sitting in my car just as easily as while sitting at home watching Judge Judy.

Here's the local CBS story/video:

http://t.co/rx5wFH0a

Here's the national CBS video which was on todays morning programming:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_1...lition-threat/

Vicelord John Oct 5, 2012 6:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don B. (Post 5855038)
Rode 12 miles on my new bicycle yesterday morning, than ran and hiked last night.

:)

--don

if you ever start a strava account to track your bike rides/hikes, etc. follow me on there and I'll return the favor.

nickw252 Oct 6, 2012 8:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 5854663)
Who's that handsome fellow on Channel 12 trying to save the David Wright House?

http://www.azcentral.com/video/1876363392001

Good job raising awareness. It's sickening that someone is so dead set on tearing down such an architecturally significant building. If this were Chicago there would be riots in the streets if someone wanted to tear down the Robie House to build some McMansions.

HooverDam Oct 20, 2012 1:35 PM

This is today:
http://grandavephoenix.com/grand-avenue-festival/

I'll be helping guide the 8am tour of some historic buildings, there are also tours at 10 and 12. There's a free film screening and free events all day, come on down and see how Grand Ave is coming along :-)

PHX31 Oct 20, 2012 2:01 PM

Interesting. Too bad you aren't guiding the 10 am tour as well, I can make that one.

nickw252 Oct 20, 2012 5:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 5873169)
This is today:
http://grandavephoenix.com/grand-avenue-festival/

I'll be helping guide the 8am tour of some historic buildings, there are also tours at 10 and 12. There's a free film screening and free events all day, come on down and see how Grand Ave is coming along :-)

Yesterday I saw a bunch of boxed palo verdes in the stone lot at the Roosevelt, Grand, and 15th intersection. Were those for the festival?

HooverDam Oct 21, 2012 3:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickw252 (Post 5873361)
Yesterday I saw a bunch of boxed palo verdes in the stone lot at the Roosevelt, Grand, and 15th intersection. Were those for the festival?

I don't know! I had to work the rest of the day, so I did the 8am tour until 10am and then had to be off. So I wasn't really hip to the rest of the goings on.

nickw252 Nov 2, 2012 2:35 AM

Frank Lloyd Wright house in Phoenix has mystery buyer lined up
 
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After only two weeks on the market, the historic Phoenix home designed by famed architect Frank Lloyd Wright is in escrow to be sold to an anonymous buyer for $2.38 million.

Robert Joffe, the home’s listing agent, told me late Wednesday afternoon that the buyer has opted to remain anonymous until the cash deal closes, at which time such information will become public record. Joffe, owner of the Joffe Group and an agent of Russ Lyon Sotheby’s International Realty, is listing the home pro bono. It was unclear as to how long the escrow process may take, he said.

Click here to see photos from inside the home.

The most important thing, Joffe said, is that the buyer fully intends to preserve the 2,500-square-foot home in the Arcadia neighborhood.

“The buyer is absolutely the perfect type of buyer we’re looking for,” Joffe said. “My belief is that they’re going to honor the house and restore and preserve it the way it is intended to be.”

The home has been a source of contentious debate on the local and national stages in recent weeks after the seller’s initial plans to demolish the house sparked a public outcry among historic preservationists and architecture purists.

The concrete home was built in 1952 for Wright’s son David and daughter-in-law Gladys.

It was purchased in June by local development company 8081 Meridian LLC, which was trying to act on the demolition permit it had received from the city before the expiration date this month. After sparking the public uproar, Meridian put the house on the market for the exact price that is now in escrow with the anonymous buyer.
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/n...n-phoenix.html

Excellent news!

PHX31 Nov 2, 2012 5:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 5873169)
This is today:
http://grandavephoenix.com/grand-avenue-festival/

I'll be helping guide the 8am tour of some historic buildings, there are also tours at 10 and 12. There's a free film screening and free events all day, come on down and see how Grand Ave is coming along :-)

Hoover, what is the status of the O.S. Stapley Hardware building? If you gave tours of it, there must be some new developments regarding its sale or restoration. Any news?

HooverDam Nov 2, 2012 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 5888381)
Hoover, what is the status of the O.S. Stapley Hardware building? If you gave tours of it, there must be some new developments regarding its sale or restoration. Any news?

Abromovitz Investment Properties own it, which is a father and son operation. They were the ones who years back bought up the building that now houses Cooperstown, fixed it up and got Alice Cooper to move in there.

They're doing a similar restoration to OS Stapley and the smaller single story buildings that are adjacent (just north) of it. Those buildings were built later, in phases, each is about 6K sq feet if memory serves.

Its still very early but it looks like Abromovitz is doing a good job, they've been sandblasting tons of nasty crap off the walls on the insides, exposing the brick and such. If you go look at OS Stapley you'll notice the nasty aluminum siding that was on it, facing Grand Ave, is gone, and the old building face is now revealed. They're going to fix that up and try to match the original as close as they can. That building is actually 3 stories, it has a basement that has basically the same floor plan as the 2 other floors.

No talk yet of a tenant/tenants. Mark Abromovitz was just very general and said "you know creative types, people who love the City, see Lower Grands potential" and such. Personally, I think the 3 story building needs some kind of anchor in it to really become a gateway/destination for Lower Grand.

If all of the buildings become offices for small architecture firms and things like that, I kinda doubt thats the highest possible use. A really cool restaurant, or in my ultimate fantasy world something like Ground Kontrol would be amazing.

PHX31 Nov 2, 2012 8:21 PM

Thanks for the info. I was curious if the metal had come down to reveal the original facade. I didn't know it was under construction/restoration already. Good to hear.

Uhhhhh, if something like Ground Kontrol went in there, I may never leave. I would have to play Galaga until I had the high score. I was addicted to arcades as a youngster. An arcade that had a bar and food, and maybe some live music every once in a while would be the best thing ever.

I went to a similar place in Chicago near Wrigley Field. They had old school indoor batting cages, old school arcade games where you could get tickets and buy trinkets (lamest most expensive ever, though, 8937294872938742 tickets = one plastic pocket harmonica), and old school arcade games (we played a couple locals on the old ice hockey game where you spin the players to hit the tiny puck in the goal). Not to mention a bar. It was so fun.

Don B. Nov 3, 2012 1:46 PM

deleted for lack of interest

--don

Phxguy Nov 5, 2012 3:42 AM

Would just like to thank those who regularly update the Southwest forum or are out in the community making a difference as tomorrow I will be leaving the Valley for many years. I plan on returning without a doubt, but wherever I go it'll be nice to read about all of the changes happening in our city. Cherio!

dtnphx Nov 5, 2012 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 5890781)
Would just like to thank those who regularly update the Southwest forum or are out in the community making a difference as tomorrow I will be leaving the Valley for many years. I plan on returning without a doubt, but wherever I go it'll be nice to read about all of the changes happening in our city. Cherio!

All the best in your new endeavors. We'll keep the forum fresh for you.

Vicelord John Nov 5, 2012 10:00 PM

ok, where are you going and what are you doing.

wtfvaguepostsucks.

Phxguy Nov 5, 2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicelord John (Post 5891536)
ok, where are you going and what are you doing.

wtfvaguepostsucks.

I joined the Navy and will be off to Chicago for 2 months.

Vicelord John Nov 5, 2012 11:24 PM

at Navy Pier?

Phxguy Nov 6, 2012 12:26 AM

Close but not as fun and a bit more yelling.

Leo the Dog Nov 6, 2012 1:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 5891615)
I joined the Navy and will be off to Chicago for 2 months.

I'm sure your Navy career will bring you to SD at sometime.

Good luck to you!

pbenjamin Nov 8, 2012 5:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbenjamin (Post 5736129)
My wife Susan Benjamin is running for the Phoenix Elementary School District Governing Board. We are gathering signatures to get her on the ballot (need 94). If you live in the district, are a registered voter and are willing to sign the nominating petition, let me know, I'll come to you. We have been walking door to door but it's not a lot of fun in the heat. Boundary map is below. Facebook page is here: https://www.facebook.com/SusanForPhoenixEl

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7090/7...8d7f03cd_z.jpg

Susan was elected to the School Board on Tuesday. Thanks to all who signed the petition.

HooverDam Nov 8, 2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbenjamin (Post 5895098)
Susan was elected to the School Board on Tuesday. Thanks to all who signed the petition.

congrats!

nickw252 Nov 10, 2012 1:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pbenjamin (Post 5895098)
Susan was elected to the School Board on Tuesday. Thanks to all who signed the petition.

Congratulations, I see that of the three winners she got the most votes :cheers:

HooverDam Nov 14, 2012 11:59 PM

Random question:

Does anyone know how the Madison United neighborhood got that name? I mean, I get the Madison part. There's Madison Park on 16th St, Madison school district, etc. But where the heck did the United part come from?

My best thought was maybe it was some kind of block watch/unity/neighborhood fight back kinda thing?

exit2lef Nov 15, 2012 5:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 5901865)
Random question:

Does anyone know how the Madison United neighborhood got that name? I mean, I get the Madison part. There's Madison Park on 16th St, Madison school district, etc. But where the heck did the United part come from?

My best thought was maybe it was some kind of block watch/unity/neighborhood fight back kinda thing?

I don't know, but it sounds like a soccer team to me.

Vicelord John Nov 15, 2012 5:35 PM

fight the power

HooverDam Nov 16, 2012 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exit2lef (Post 5902571)
I don't know, but it sounds like a soccer team to me.

I've thought that as well, has that European sports kinda sound for sure.

Don B. Nov 16, 2012 12:54 AM

From Wikipedia (I did not know this about schools here, which came up when I was searching):

In Arizona, union high school districts are districts that contain only high schools. Sometimes the name is derived from the first school opened, which typically has Union in its full name. Examples include the Casa Grande Union High School District (the Union school still uses the full name), the Glendale Union High School District and the Tempe Union High School District. Some special union high school districts—like the Santa Cruz Valley Union High School District— have just one school.

A unified school district (in Arizona, California, and Oregon) or unit school district (in Illinois) is a school district which includes both primary school (kindergarten through middle school or junior high) and high school (grades 9–12) under the same district control. This distinction exists primarily in Illinois and the western U.S. states, where elementary school districts and high school districts are, or were, usually separate. The Los Angeles Unified School District (sometimes called "LA Unified") is a major example of a California unified school district. In Illinois, unit school districts are not to be confused with consolidated or union school districts, which are usually formed by the consolidation of multiple school districts of the same type.


As for the neighborhood, who knows? I did find this site:

http://www.phoenixmarkettrends.com/b...l-phoenix.html

:)

--don

HooverDam Nov 16, 2012 12:57 AM

Right but this is Madison UNITED not Union or Unified. And I don't think the neighborhood boundaries overlap exactly with the school district boundaries, it seems odd.

I just dont really get why they wouldn't have opted to simply call it "Madison", or even "Madison Park" considering that park is nearby, but what do I know.

Also their sign has like a Mom and children on it, which is unique. Most of them have little houses or other physical structures depicted, not people.

Related: I bet I could put my brain to a lot of good use if I didn't fill it with wondering about needless nonsense like this.

HooverDam Nov 16, 2012 5:00 AM

on an unrelated note...
 
So tonight I was elected the President of the Phoenix Historic Neighborhoods Coalition.

Our next meeting is....well, we don't know. We may or may not have one in December. We'll be updating the website soon, sprucing up the Facebook page, getting on Twitter, etc.


I'll be posting more info down the line I'm sure. I'd invite/encourage you all to get involved with the group, whether you live in a Historic Neighborhood or are just interested in Historic Preservation more generally.

pbenjamin Nov 16, 2012 7:13 PM

AND... The school district is Madison Elementary School District. For grades 9-12 the people in Madison got to the Phoenix Union High School District.

Don B. Nov 17, 2012 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HooverDam (Post 5903368)
So tonight I was elected the President of the Phoenix Historic Neighborhoods Coalition.

Our next meeting is....well, we don't know. We may or may not have one in December. We'll be updating the website soon, sprucing up the Facebook page, getting on Twitter, etc.


I'll be posting more info down the line I'm sure. I'd invite/encourage you all to get involved with the group, whether you live in a Historic Neighborhood or are just interested in Historic Preservation more generally.

Congrats. :)

--don

PHX31 Dec 20, 2012 5:00 PM

Not sure what the real point of this post is other than to cry over our city's destruction. But on a positive note, since the 60s and 70s, downtown has come a long way, and I think we're on a course for it to be really good.

Here are a progression of aerials from a section of downtown Phoenix from 2nd St to 7th St, Polk to Washington.

There used to be some grand old homes and dense blocks of houses and buildings in this 1930 view:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...psf9338dd7.jpg

By 1969 this area was almost completely destroyed and a desolate wasteland of parking lots and empty lots:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ps708a4c13.jpg

Today there aren't many empty lots left, most have been developed with super-sized developments. We've lost more houses/small buildings, but added a lot of important structures and landscaping:
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...ps38834845.jpg

Granted, I'd rather have saved what we had in the 1930s than build the Mercado, the Herberger, and the crappy St. Mary's building, but the Convention Center and Heritage Square are nice and important for downtown.

Vicelord John Dec 20, 2012 7:17 PM

I hate all of that megablock crap

PHX31 Dec 20, 2012 7:26 PM

agreed

PHX31 Dec 20, 2012 11:21 PM

Check out this ridiculous list.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Media/...a.aspx?index=3

Can anyone vouch for the accuracy of the per square foot dollar figure for an acre of land (I'd bet prices are still very high, definitely not a 90% discount since the height of the market)? And don't they know it looked like that in that area before the recession (and is getting better now with Roosevelt Point, etc.)? Businesses aren't "closing their doors", more are actually opening in this area. Who writes this type of useless crap on the internet (and why did I read it?).

phxSUNSfan Dec 21, 2012 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 5946088)
Check out this ridiculous list.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Media/...a.aspx?index=3

Can anyone vouch for the accuracy of the per square foot dollar figure for an acre of land (I'd bet prices are still very high, definitely not a 90% discount since the height of the market)? And don't they know it looked like that in that area before the recession (and is getting better now with Roosevelt Point, etc.)? Businesses aren't "closing their doors", more are actually opening in this area. Who writes this type of useless crap on the internet (and why did I read it?).

I remember this...it was done a few years ago (2009, maybe 2010) when things weren't looking as great as now and things were in limbo.

HooverDam Dec 21, 2012 5:58 AM

Wow thanks for those aerials PHX31, amazing/depressing. I posted them to my Facebook, hope you don't mind.

On a positive note:

In the past 2 days, "we" (me, you maybe, lots of people) have helped kill the Circle K on the SEC of 7th St/Roosevelt and the David Wright House was bought by a preservation minded buyer, who's going to not live in the house, but rather have it fixed up, preserved and used for educational purposes.

These are 2 amazing Christmas gifts for those of us on team good guys here in PHX.

Leo the Dog Jan 26, 2013 7:08 AM

Cool maps
 
Found this dot density map based off of ethnicity and race. It was in another SSP thread. This map is of the East Valley. Very interesting to look at and compare other cities to Phoenix.

Red = white
Blue = black
Orange = Hispanic
Green = Asian

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walking...57626354149574

dtnphx Jan 28, 2013 6:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo the Dog (Post 5988475)
Found this dot density map based off of ethnicity and race. It was in another SSP thread. This map is of the East Valley. Very interesting to look at and compare other cities to Phoenix.

Red = white
Blue = black
Orange = Hispanic
Green = Asian

http://www.flickr.com/photos/walking...57626354149574

There is this link from The NY Times that shows you how every region and every state. Zoom in for more detail.
http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2...r?ref=nyregion

Leo the Dog Jan 29, 2013 5:21 AM

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Originally Posted by dtnphx (Post 5990833)
There is this link from The NY Times that shows you how every region and every state. Zoom in for more detail.
http://projects.nytimes.com/census/2...r?ref=nyregion

This is a good site too!

Its fascinating just how segregated American cities are to this day, by choice. I wonder what metro region is the most integrated.

Some quick observations:

Census tract 1157 in South Phoenix - Broadway to Southern, 7th ave to 19th ave
1 sq. mile. Population 7,048
5% white
92% hispanic

Census tracts in the Surprise, Sun Cities area are in the 90%+ white. Some are 99% white. Census tracts in N. Scottsdale around Shea, also in the 90's.

Don B. Feb 2, 2013 5:24 AM

Ate at the 3rd Ave & Roosevelt Pita Jungle with a client for the first time last Wed. It was jam-packed and tasty.

Also was at the Angel's Trumpet House on 2nd Street south of Roosevelt for the No Pants Day on the light rail and that was pretty cool as well.

--don

Vicelord John Feb 2, 2013 1:19 PM

Damnit! I always hear about no pants day after the fact. I've got some crazy velvet paisley boxer briefs that are perfect for such an occasion.

Angels trumpet has a pizza my friend swears is the best ever, called the tractor, with egg, bacon, and Brussels sprouts. I need to try it.

nickw252 Feb 12, 2013 3:58 AM

Since it's been a slow news day, here's a pic of the Phoenix sunrise this morning. It was unusually orange because of the clouds.

http://i46.tinypic.com/349ccd5.jpg

PHX31 Feb 12, 2013 4:36 PM

/\ Nice shot. I think the best angle of the downtown skyline is from the east side looking west (when you are on I-10 somewhere north of Jefferson).

Leo the Dog Feb 12, 2013 6:20 PM

My favorite angle was from the 202 at the 10 interchange going westbound on the 202. DT looks like a fortress from the northeast.

PHX31 Feb 12, 2013 7:54 PM

I came across this "Original Architectural Rendering" of the Viad Tower online.

I thought there was supposed to be a twin, but I had never known the original (or the twin) was supposed to be shorter with the angled slopes much more pronounced. Anyone ever seen this or known about this? Plinko?

http://img3.etsystatic.com/008/0/665...63419_o5dm.jpg

HooverDam Feb 15, 2013 12:27 AM

^^^ Too bad that didn't get built, its more interesting looking.

On another note, this was in the paper today:

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Gosar, Kirkpatrick join forces for Ariz. copper mine

Deteriorating storefronts speak to the hard economic times Superior has faced since mining fell off in the area. Many leaders and residents say they are hoping Resolution Copper Co. plan to open a mine in the mountains east of town will make Superior thrive again.
Jennifer A. Johnson / Cronkite News Service
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By Rebekah L. Sanders
The Republic | azcentral.com
Thu Feb 14, 2013 3:52 PM
Two Arizona Congress members, once rivals on the campaign trail, announced Thursday they are reintroducing legislation to pave the way for the largest copper mine in North America to be dug under thousands of acres near Superior.

U.S. Reps Paul Gosar, a Republican, and Ann Kirkpatrick, a Democrat, touted the Southeast Arizona Land Exchange and Conservation Act as a major job creator for the state. Gosar blamed Washington bickering for the legislation's failure to pass, despite attempts by four Arizona representatives - including both of them - in the last eight years.

U.S. Sens. Jeff Flake and John McCain, both Republicans from Arizona, planned to introduce identical legislation Thursday in the Senate.

“This bill is a win-win for Arizona and for our nation — it will create over 3,700 high-paying jobs, increase U.S. energy and mineral independence, and preserve some of rural Arizona’s most beautiful natural lands,” Gosar said in a written statement. “The gridlock must end. Congresswoman Kirkpatrick and I will build on last year’s successes in the House, work closely with Senators Flake and McCain in the Senate, and finally get this land exchange across the finish line.”

Kirkpatrick, whose district includes the proposed mine site, also praised the mine’s economic benefits.

“My vision for Arizona is a diversified and stable economy. The Superior mine fits into that vision and is critical to the communities and constituents in my district,” she said in a written statement. “It will provide jobs, economic development and a stronger foundation for their future.”

But she acknowledged longstanding opposition to the mine from American Indian tribes and environmental groups, many of whom contributed to Kirkpatrick’s return to Congress this year. The groups worry the mine will threaten the region’s water supply, harm sacred tribal grounds and destroy land in the Tonto National Forest enjoyed by campers and rock climbers. Opponents question the mine’s job-creation figures.

“I believe their voices should be heard during this process,” Kirkpatrick said. She pledged to represent their concerns while also advancing the project.

Arizona Republican Reps. Matt Salmon, David Schweikert and Trent Franks will be co-sponsors as well. The delegation’s remaining four Democrats had not signed on, including Reps. Ed Pastor and Raúl Grijalva, who voiced strong objections in the past.

Under the bill, Resolution Copper Mining Co. would exchange more than 5,000 acres of environmentally sensitive land the company owns throughout Arizona for about 2,400 acres of federal land in the Oak Flat area, about 70 miles east of Phoenix.

The company, jointly owned by U.K.-based Rio Tinto and Australia’s BHP-Billiton, plans to develop a 7,000-foot-deep mine, opening up the third largest undeveloped copper resource in the world, which officials have said could contribute $61.4 billion to Arizona over the course of its projected 66-year lifetime.

A series of Arizona Congress members have tried to shepherd the land swap since 2005. Kirkpatrick worked on the legislation in 2009, before losing her seat to Gosar in a tough election battle in 2010. With the help of the new GOP majority, Gosar was the first to get the bill to a floor vote and won passage in the House in 2011.

But the legislation became bogged down in the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee and made no progress last year.

Just before Christmas, Resolution Copper announced it would lay off more than 400 mine employees because of congressional delays.

Mine backers hope the new bill will have more success, given the two bipartisan representatives leading the charge and changes in Senate committee leadership. Kirkpatrick returned to Congress this year after redistricting prompted Gosar to move to a different district.
Whats the thoughts of people on this board about the Resolution Copper mine? I'm kind of split on it, I usually have a strong opinion one way or the other ,but can certainly see both sides here.

Obviously even if the economic benefits are half of what the supporters are claiming, thats a big help to AZs weak-ish economy. On the other hand, I hate seeing more of our natural beauty depleted, though I haven't camped/hiked in that area specifically and am unsure of exactly how special it is.

I feel like if I knew Rio Tinto or BHP Billiton was going to set up major offices in Central Phoenix and really create a US corporate HQ sort of thing here, I might be more 'pro' the mine. The feel I get now is a bit of out of country folks swooping in, depleting resources and skipping town.

Thoughts?

Vicelord John Feb 20, 2013 10:41 PM

so I took this just now

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d6...psa2636bfd.jpg

PHX31 Feb 20, 2013 10:43 PM

Central Phoenix

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i2...uadfasdfre.jpg


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