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MiamiSpartan Aug 27, 2014 12:45 AM

so bummed.....
:(

Onn Aug 27, 2014 1:08 AM

Poor decision by the FAA, I hope this doesn't stand

Zapatan Aug 27, 2014 2:55 AM

The FAA are such losers who need to go do something productive yeesh.

1040' would be fine with me though... anything over 300 meters would be great for Miami.

chris08876 Aug 27, 2014 2:56 AM

Well at least Skyrise was approved by the voters. Not terribly bad news today. :haha:

bobdreamz Aug 27, 2014 4:17 AM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6706249)
Rubbish. :(

I wonder if they would be fine with a 1000 ft height. FAA is really annoying. Does that height really interfere with flight routes? More headaches and delays for quality developments.

Planes don't really fly right over downtown Miami or Brickell district. The flight paths usually take planes either north of the CBD or south of the Brickell Financial district with the tallest building on the southern end of Brickell Avenue being the Four Seasons tower @ 789 ft. | 240 m.

I really don't understand how the FAA thinks an extra 30 feet higher from 1,010 ft. to 1,040 feet is a safety hazard for airplanes!
MIA sits about 5 miles northwest of the CBD/Brickell area so if something goes wrong what difference does it make if a building is over 1,000 feet tall or 100 feet tall?

http://www3.gendisasters.com/florida...miami-aug-1997

http://www3.gendisasters.com/files/f...8-7-1997_2.jpg

chris08876 Oct 16, 2014 10:27 PM

New Site is up: http://residencesbrickellcitycentre.com/index.php

Features: Gallery, info on residences, floor plans, amenities, renderings, and much more.

Also as a reminder, this is a multi tower project. See page 2 for more info as a refresher.

chris08876 Oct 22, 2014 7:16 PM

This thread should be renamed:

Brickell CityCentre | 1,102 FT + (520 FT X 2) + 516 FT | FLOORS

To avoid confusion with the other thread which is One Brickell, the height information would distinguish the two.

The supertall portion is part of a phase for this project. The smaller towers are part of the complex. It is this complex that the thread title should resemble. Also, the floor count isn't really known. The supertall portion could be 80 floors, but the floors of the other towers are tentative. The height though is backed up by diagrams in page 2.

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs...009a66/519.jpg

Notice the supertall slot.

chris08876 Nov 11, 2014 6:59 PM

Apologies for bumping this. I posted some recent information pertaining to a different project by accident. All of the names for a lot of Miami developments all sound the same and use "Brickell", "Ocean Drive" or "one" in the name. :haha:

bobdreamz Feb 10, 2015 11:27 PM

Update: SWIRE prepares for demolition of Eastern Nat'l. Bank building
 
Eastern National Bank Moving Out, Building Will Be Demolished For One Brickell City Centre
By TNM Staff on February 9, 2015

An office building slated for demolition to make way for One Brickell City Centre is being vacated by Eastern National Bank, which formerly owned the building.

The bank signed a lease to move their headquarters to Dadeland from Brickell Avenue, according to a press release (via TRD).

They have been operating on a lease from Swire Properties. The bank sold their 197,611-square-foot Brickell headquarters to Swire in 2011 for just $13.1 million in 2011. The property, which includes 50,172-square-feet of land, is now worth multiples of that price.

Swire intends to demolish the office building to build the mixed-use 1,049-foot tall One Brickell City Centre. The developer recently topped off several other building withing the Brickell City Centre complex.

http://i.imgur.com/fvdcGT8.jpg

^ Site includes Eastern Nat'l. bank & the now demolished brick building that fronted Brickell Ave.

http://i.imgur.com/q5VNyYV.jpg

http://www.thenextmiami.com/index.ph...l-city-centre/

Zapatan Feb 11, 2015 3:44 AM

Nice, hopefully the FAA doesn't ruin everything

N830MH Feb 14, 2015 5:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 6910114)
Nice, hopefully the FAA doesn't ruin everything

Screw the FAA!! Leave it alone.

chris08876 Feb 14, 2015 5:50 AM

^^^

The tabloids a couple of weeks ago made one of their many errors in exaggerating the FAA impact on these towers. I wouldn't worry, towers like this will not be 500 feet. :haha:

Likewise for MiamiCentral or any other projects. I think this one is a safe bet. Worst case scenario for the 4 or 5 supertalls in the pipeline is that we may see a reduction to 900 feet, but for this project, I'd say the current height or even a 1000 feet is a very safe bet, thats if they go that route.

If all goes well, Miami may have the 3rd most supertalls after NYC and Chicago. Pretty damn impressive if you ask me. 2020 will see a largely expanded skyline, both in width, and height.

Plokoon11 Feb 14, 2015 2:07 PM

My question is who is going to be filling up all these business towers? I understand the residential demand down there, heck its very nice down there.

chris08876 Feb 14, 2015 7:42 PM

Usual tenants consist of banks, law offices, real estate companies, and construction firms. Keep in mind though that these towers are not 100% filled in the first year. Like any tower, it could take years to reach somewhat full occupancy. International banks also reside in Miami and are some of the tenants that usually sign deals along with foreign financial firms.

Zapatan Feb 14, 2015 8:15 PM

If Miami had a supertall boom that would be awesome. It's hard to tell how serious all these projects are though and the FAA always trying to get involved doesn't help.

I'm sure at least one or two will go through though.

chris08876 Feb 14, 2015 8:49 PM

Takes time. I mean, as long as the economy is well, and the conditions are favorable like they are now, than its just a matter of waiting. I think the NYC super tall boom makes it seem like they can just go up, but a supertall can take a decade or more from conception to completion. Takes a really long time to get a tower such as this.

chris08876 Feb 27, 2015 3:20 PM

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MiamiSpartan Jun 24, 2015 11:03 PM

Miami Herald is reporting that the FAA has approved this tower at 1049 feet!!
:cheers:
Not quite as tall as I'd like it, but this will do!

Ploppalopp Jun 24, 2015 11:16 PM

Quote:

Feds OK height for 80-story One Brickell City Centre tower
Quote:

A soaring 80-story skyscraper on Brickell Avenue won’t endanger airplanes flying to and from Miami International Airport if it is built, the Federal Aviation Administration said Wednesday.

“It is determined that the proposed structure ... would not be a hazard to air navigation,” the FAA wrote in a report issued to developer Swire Properties and obtained by the Miami Herald.

Swire had originally wanted to build One Brickell City Centre up to a height of 1,111 feet above sea level but settled for 1,049 feet after negotiations with the FAA, the agency wrote.

When built, One Brickell City Centre will be the tallest tower in Miami, according to Emporis, a website that tracks and ranks buildings.

The tallest building in Miami today is the Four Seasons Hotel & Tower (789 feet), but several developers have plans to outdo that height including Tibor Hollo at One Bayfront Plaza (1,010 feet) and Jeff Berkowitz at SkyRise Miami (1,000 feet).

The new Swire tower, designed by Arquitectonica, will include retail, office space, condos and a hotel. It is the centerpiece of the second phase of development at Brickell City Centre, a gargantuan, mixed-use project with a price-tag of $1.05 billion.

Swire will demolish the Eastern National Bank building at 799 Brickell Ave. and the former Northern Trust Bank building at 700 Brickell Ave. to make room for the project.

Miami-Dade County’s Aviation Department must also approve the tower’s height.

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/busi...#storylink=cpy

Awesome news!!!

JR Ewing Jun 24, 2015 11:30 PM

I hope this isn't the final design because it's horrible, and as the tallest tower in Miami, it will utterly Ruin the skyline.

Dale Jun 25, 2015 2:50 AM

I rather like the design. I've made peace with the fact that Miami is never going to get a spire.

chris08876 Jun 25, 2015 9:42 AM

I'm happy for the city. Another supertall. Well, if we can count Skyrise as one. Still, great height, and I too am kinda surprised the FAA didn't bastardize this.

Still waiting on One Bayfront Plaza to start up. :( That will be 1,010 ft.

JR Ewing Jun 25, 2015 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6329749)

This is a fat box that's missing a piece. This tower is horrible , and as the tallest tower in Miami, it will destroy the skyline.

dave8721 Jun 25, 2015 1:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiSpartan (Post 7074352)
Miami Herald is reporting that the FAA has approved this tower at 1049 feet!!
:cheers:
Not quite as tall as I'd like it, but this will do!

The official height will be 1040 feet above ground level. Can the thread title be changed?

UrbanImpact Jun 25, 2015 3:36 PM

Awesome news!!!!!! Finally, we are the 3rd most populated state after all. Can't wait to watch it rise now :)

chris08876 Jun 25, 2015 8:58 PM

High Quality Renderings from Arquitectonica:

http://arquitectonica.com/wp-content...9.10.15pil.jpg

http://arquitectonica.com/wp-content...9.10.22pil.jpg
Credit: http://arquitectonica.com/blog/portf...l-city-centre/

JR Ewing Jun 25, 2015 10:53 PM

Horrible

It's a fat box that's missing a piece .

bobdreamz Jun 28, 2015 2:51 PM

Fantastic news! Out of all of the proposals for a super tall I know Swire will actually build this and upon completion it will be the tallest tower in all of the Southern US!

MrDreTheOne Jun 28, 2015 3:26 PM

I very much like this tower, the design might not be something out of this world but if the cladding is of the same quality as the rest of the Brickell City Center towers (they look sexy as hell) it will be a sight to behold. This is great news for us, we have been waiting for a serious supertall to be approved for a long time. With the FAA approval developers will be encouraged to pursue more 1000 footers.

chris08876 Jun 28, 2015 3:52 PM

A solid supertall to the roof too. :cheers:

SLO Jun 28, 2015 6:12 PM

Very nice building.

ATLksuGUY Jun 29, 2015 7:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdreamz (Post 7078083)
Fantastic news! Out of all of the proposals for a super tall I know Swire will actually build this and upon completion it will be the tallest tower in all of the Southern US!

Technically it would be the same height as the Bank of America plaza here in Atlanta. 1040' I swear people forget about that building all the time, and it really has a nice presence to it. The crown is beautiful at night, especially from midtown.

chris08876 Jun 29, 2015 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLksuGUY (Post 7079342)
Technically it would be the same height as the Bank of America plaza here in Atlanta. 1040' I swear people forget about that building all the time, and it really has a nice presence to it. The crown is beautiful at night, especially from midtown.

That tower, with its crown and shape is what more cities need. Lovely tower. Shall not be forgotten! :cheers:

ATLksuGUY Jun 29, 2015 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7079472)
That tower, with its crown and shape is what more cities need. Lovely tower. Shall not be forgotten! :cheers:

Yes!! I think it is underappreciated!! This tower looks great as well. :cheers:

bobdreamz Jun 30, 2015 3:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLksuGUY (Post 7079342)
Technically it would be the same height as the Bank of America plaza here in Atlanta. 1040' I swear people forget about that building all the time, and it really has a nice presence to it. The crown is beautiful at night, especially from midtown.

The B of A tower in Atlanta is 1,023 ft. | 311.8 m to the tip and the highest occupied floor is at 728 ft. | 222 m.
So even with the additional 295 ft. gold crown & tip on top of the highest occupied floor, One Brickell is still 17 ft. higher so it's not the same height as the Bank of America tower.

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buil...rica-plaza/429

One Brickell's highest occupied floor will be at 1,040 ft. | 317 m.

hunser Jun 30, 2015 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdreamz (Post 7079867)
The B of A tower in Atlanta is 1,023 ft. | 311.8 m to the tip and the highest occupied floor is at 728 ft. | 222 m.
So even with the additional 295 ft. gold crown & tip on top of the highest occupied floor, One Brickell is still 17 ft. higher so it's not the same height as the Bank of America tower.

http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buil...rica-plaza/429

One Brickell's highest occupied floor will be at 1,040 ft. | 317 m.

It won't. CTBUH's classification of occupied height is very controversial imho. They don't count mechanical floors or even multistory penthouses. F.e., 432 PA is a flat- roofed building topping out at 1,397'. Yet, the occupied height is listed as 1,287' according to the Council. Same with Nordstrom (1,522' roof, 1,450' HOF) and many other buildings. So most likely, One Brickell's figure will be <1,000'.

bobdreamz Jun 30, 2015 7:31 PM

^ One Brickell will still be taller than the B of A tower though.

ATLksuGUY Jun 30, 2015 9:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobdreamz (Post 7080610)
^ One Brickell will still be taller than the B of A tower though.

No. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_o...Plaza_(Atlanta)

summersm343 Jun 30, 2015 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATLksuGUY (Post 7080815)

That info is incorrect. Anyone can edit Wikipedia. BofA Plaza in Atlanta is 1,023 feet.

http://www.emporis.com/buildings/121...atlanta-ga-usa

bobdreamz Jun 30, 2015 11:46 PM

^ I have always known B of A in Atlanta to be around 1,025 feet or so. How it somehow has jumped to 1,040 feet is beyond me! Anyways even using hunser's argument that One Brickell's highest occupied floor would be less than 1,000 feet that contradicts what the CTBUH says:
http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buil...y-centre/15763

Even if it's highest occupied floor is less than 1,000 feet One Brickell will still taller than the B of A. I will take the word of Emporis & CTBUH over Wikipedia.

MiamiSpartan Jul 1, 2015 11:42 AM

The more I'm seeing this, the more I like it....!
It will be a bold, powerful anchor statement in the middle of the Brickell skyline....I like the two cutouts, also.....:tup:

chris08876 Jul 1, 2015 8:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiamiSpartan (Post 7081387)
The more I'm seeing this, the more I like it....!
It will be a bold, powerful anchor statement in the middle of the Brickell skyline....I like the two cutouts, also.....:tup:

Should complement Skyrise in terms of an impact on the skyline. Once World Center, and Innovation District kick into high gear, its about to get a lot bigger and bulkier. Miami Central Phase 1 and 2 will add some nice density, and the towers near Museum Park as well. Whole region is booming, and many more skyscrapers to spring up. Also, 444 Brickell and Villa Magna added to the list. Magna possibly being a future tallest.

I'm curious on what will happen to the Empire World Towers site. Lots of potential.

summersm343 Jul 1, 2015 8:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7081881)
Should complement Skyrise in terms of an impact on the skyline. Once World Center, and Innovation District kick into high gear, its about to get a lot bigger and bulkier. Miami Central Phase 1 and 2 will add some nice density, and the towers near Museum Park as well. Whole region is booming, and many more skyscrapers to spring up. Also, 444 Brickell and Villa Magna added to the list. Magna possibly being a future tallest.

I'm curious on what will happen to the Empire World Towers site. Lots of potential.

I was just in Miami, Miami Beach, Sunny Isles, Fort Lauderdale, etc. Construction cranes everywhere! Pretty nuts. Congrats to Miami on the first Supertall and joining (along with San Francisco and Philadelphia) the United States Supertall club. Hopefully this gets built :cheers:

N830MH Jul 2, 2015 6:54 AM

Don't they have Observatory Deck? Do they think will ever build new Observatory Deck?

bobdreamz Jul 2, 2015 9:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 7082381)
Don't they have Observatory Deck? Do they think will ever build new Observatory Deck?

No observatory at this time but they are saying a lounge will occupy the 80th. floor. It appears that the upper floors will be hotel rooms.

ChiTownWonder Jul 9, 2015 3:05 AM

I love the height, and it will look great in the skyline, but i hate how the facade textures change so bluntly.

bobdreamz Jul 9, 2015 8:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTownWonder (Post 7089224)
I love the height, and it will look great in the skyline, but i hate how the facade textures change so bluntly.

I think that has more to do with the floor heights between a Hotel room which usually are shorter and the Office heights which are taller.

bobdreamz Sep 26, 2015 1:25 AM

Future Construction date?
 
Metromover station to return soon
Written by Catherine Lackner on September 22, 2015

Good news, Brickell drivers, pedestrians and Metro-mover riders: the cranes are gone from the Brickell City Centre construction site and key components will be up and running soon.

“We are a fluid construction site, although we are very close to delivery of certain components,” said a spokesperson for Swire Properties, which is developing the massive project. All of the buildings in the first phase have been topped off.

The Eighth Street Metro-mover station, closed since August 2014, will re-open this fall, revitalized and incorporated into a third level of shopping, she said. Riders will be able to disembark and get to the street level, she added, though the station will not be connected to the rest of the complex yet.

The bulk of the first phase “is scheduled to be delivered this winter,” the spokesperson said. Included are two office towers (Two Brickell City Centre at 78 SE Seventh St., with 129,338 square feet of space, and Three Brickell City Centre, with 134,550 square feet of space at 98 SE Seventh St.), the 263-key Miami East Hotel at 788 Brickell Plaza, and three residential buildings. They are the East Residences, with 89 units at 89 SE Eighth St., the Rise Condo at 88 SW Seventh St., and the Reach Condo at 68 SE Sixth St., each of which will contain 390 units.

A 500,000-square-foot shopping center at 701 S Miami Ave., to include food, beverage and entertainment, is scheduled for completion in fall 2016.

Construction on Phase II, which comprises the 80-story One Brickell City Centre, is scheduled to begin at the end of 2017. North Squared at 529 S Miami Ave., on the Miami River, is slated for future development but a timetable has yet to be determined for it, the spokesperson said.

http://www.miamitodaynews.com/2015/0...o-return-soon/

chris08876 Oct 28, 2015 3:10 PM

One Brickell City Centre Groundbreaking Estimated For Late 2017

Quote:

One Brickell City Centre could become the tallest tower in Miami, but construction likely won’t begin for at least another two years.

Developer Swire Properties is focusing on finishing up the first phase of Brickell City Centre before moving on to the next phase of the project, according to Mary Arda, a marketing director for the developer. A report last week in Miami Today that construction would begin in the first quarter of 2016 is erroneous, and the developer is targeting late 2017 to begin construction, she said.

By the end of this year, law firm Akerman will begin moving into office space, and residential condo units will begin closing. Also expected to open this winter is the EAST hotel. Only the retail portion of the project will open later, beginning in September of 2016.

In June, the Federal Aviation Administration approved the height of One Brickell City Centre at 1,040-feet above ground, which would make it one of the tallest in the U.S. Approval expires after 18 months, but the developer can apply for an extension.
http://i.imgur.com/q5VNyYV.jpg
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UrbanImpact Oct 28, 2015 6:47 PM

Awesome news!


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