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NYguy May 18, 2012 4:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadcruiser1 (Post 5701351)
This tower is most likely going to be residential which means all you said will not happen.

Mostly residential, but still mixed-use:

http://www.observer.com/2012/05/gary...d-57th-street/

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As reported in our profile, Swiss starchitects Herzog & de Meuron won an invited competition to design a tower that could rise to 1,250 feet or more....What there was not room to say was the rest of the impressive firms under consideration: Herzog & de Meuron beat out fellow European Pritzker winners Norman Foster, Richard Rogers and Jean Nouvel and local favorites SHoP, according to our sources. The tower, as specified in the competition brief called for a multi-story base of offices with residences and a hotel on top, a top-of-the-line mixed use tower.


NYguy May 31, 2012 1:40 PM

One of the designs that didn't make it...



http://observer.com/2012/05/check-ou...roadway-tower/

Check Out a Bonkers Proposal for Gary Barnett’s 1,250-Foot Broadway Tower

http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...4-51.jpg?w=337


By Matt Chaban
May 31, 2012

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Blind item: Which architecture firm displayed a mind-boggling model for a skyscraper that may well never be built, at least in this lovely form, on the corner of Broadway and 57th Street for Gary Barnett? The model was on display last night inside one of the firm’s downtown projects, which is all The Observer can say lest we give the devilish designers away.


http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...4-32.jpg?w=337



http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...4-41.jpg?w=337



http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...4-17.jpg?w=337



http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...3-50.jpg?w=600
Note the sky gardens surrounding a possible boutique hotel.


http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...3-36.jpg?w=337
The building boasts offices below, apartments above, perfect for the Columbus Circle crowd.

babybackribs2314 May 31, 2012 2:55 PM

Reminds me of this:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3528/...fd2d246e_o.jpg

Which was Coop Himmelblau

http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showth...?t=7832&page=5

Or Iwamoto Scott, who design 'Skyvoid'

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=181550

babybackribs2314 May 31, 2012 3:15 PM

My #3 guess would actually be Vinoly, as the above tower looks similar to 432 Park... detached skeleton & the structure is 'separated' into different node-ish type things.

NYguy May 31, 2012 3:34 PM

Reminds me a lot of this too...

http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/103105372/original.jpg
http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/103105378/original.jpg

Onn May 31, 2012 4:17 PM

That's bonkers. With a rejected proposal coming out already the planning phase must be much further along already than Barnett first talked about when he said nothing was decided on yet.

NYguy May 31, 2012 4:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Onn (Post 5718752)
That's bonkers. With a rejected proposal coming out already the planning phase must be much further along already than Barnett first talked about when he said nothing was decided on yet.

When he says nothing is decided yet, he may have selected a winning architect, but that doesn't mean the design itself is final. Being mixed-use, there's a lot at play here.

Eidolon May 31, 2012 4:56 PM

I have very high hopes that something excellent will be built here and I would have been pleasantly surprised had that design been used. :yes:

babybackribs2314 May 31, 2012 5:10 PM

Also possibly notable is the above tower actually has a spire, although it's quite narrow. It looks like with the spire it would be ~1,400' tall.

Onn May 31, 2012 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 5718776)
When he says nothing is decided yet, he may have selected a winning architect, but that doesn't mean the design itself is final. Being mixed-use, there's a lot at play here.

Maybe your right on that, I wonder who the architect will be (or is)? :shrug:

scalziand May 31, 2012 5:40 PM

Onn, Herzog de Meuron has already been announced as the architect.

The model also includes a rough massing of 220 CPS.

http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...4-17.jpg?w=337

Onn May 31, 2012 5:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scalziand (Post 5718842)
Onn, Herzog de Meuron has already been announced as the architect.

The model also includes a rough massing of 220 CPS.

http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...4-17.jpg?w=337

That's right, sorry about that! So many towers going up I lose track of who is on which project, I totally forgot they were picked. :haha:

scalziand May 31, 2012 6:51 PM

Scaling from 888 7th ave, which is 191m tall, the model seems to be about 430-440m tall.

Zapatan May 31, 2012 7:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scalziand (Post 5718971)
Scaling from 888 7th ave, which is 191m tall, the model seems to be about 430-440m tall.

I wish but, measure it in pixels, or just take your fingers and double the height of the 190m building and it's about exactly double, so 380 meters.

I can't stand that little spire on the side though, I hope that's not a cheap measure in beating 432 pk ave.

Eidolon May 31, 2012 7:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 5719027)
I wish but, measure it in pixels, or just take your fingers and double the height of the 190m building and it's about exactly double, so 380 meters.

I can't stand that little spire on the side though, I hope that's not a cheap measure in beating 432 pk ave.

The office component of 225 W57th appears to be as tall as 888 7th Avenue from the perspective given and when the ~250M/850FT residential component is added on top of the that tower we get a roof height of ~450M/1480FT. Add in the spire and this (dead) iteration of 225 W57th tops 1500FT.

We have no idea what the current form will be like besdides the fact that it too will be very tall, possibly even the new tallest in the US by roof height. :banana:

Sky88 May 31, 2012 9:03 PM

New photo of possible Extell tower inserted into photo of One57's showroom model. From ny.curbed.com. :)

http://ny.curbed.com/uploads/untitled-2213-Edit.jpg

http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2012/0...ghbor.php#more

NYguy May 31, 2012 10:21 PM

LOL, another rough edit from observer.com....the skyline will never be the same...


http://nyoobserver.files.wordpress.c...line.jpg?w=500

http://observer.com/2012/05/just-how...e-going-to-be/
Just How Insane is the 57th Street Skyline Going to Be?

By Matt Chaban
May 30, 2012

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Last night, The Observer got a glimpse of the super-tall residential tower Gary Barnett has planned for Broadway and 57th Street, just one block away from his already very tall One57.

Our good friends at Curbed picked up on this and were brilliant enough to photoshop the two onto the same skyline. It is quite the striking image, but not quite complete.

After all, rival 432 Park is already underway—and looking for more investors, if you’re interested, as The Journal revealed yesterday—so we figured, what the hey, let’s put them all together.

Welcome to your new skyline, circa 2015.


uaarkson May 31, 2012 10:57 PM

This one is almost too wacky for me, but I think the other 57th St supertalls will balance it out. New York hasn't built a truly crazy, eye-catching skyscraper in quite some time.

The fury of this street's skyscraper boom is quite beautiful.

NYguy May 31, 2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by uaarkson (Post 5719247)
The fury of this street's skyscraper boom is quite beautiful.

It's like 57th is in a world of it's own, yet it's just a slice of the skyscraper buzz going on in Manhattan right now.

It occured to me that this design reminds me of another tower also, the David Childs/Libeskind Freedom Tower, right down to the twist and spire...


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/143684999/large.jpghttp://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/143684996/large.jpg

Zapatan Jun 1, 2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Eidolon (Post 5719061)
The office component of 225 W57th appears to be as tall as 888 7th Avenue from the perspective given and when the ~250M/850FT residential component is added on top of the that tower we get a roof height of ~450M/1480FT. Add in the spire and this (dead) iteration of 225 W57th tops 1500FT.

We have no idea what the current form will be like besdides the fact that it too will be very tall, possibly even the new tallest in the US by roof height. :banana:

you could be right, just looking at it next to ONE57 makes it look like a 400+ meter tower.

I like this design though, hopefully the final will be just as good.


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