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PHX31 Mar 14, 2013 9:38 PM

Interesting that the city put parallel parking on 1st St for that improvement project. Maybe you should have interviewed the owners and managers of the Turf or other businesses over there how they like the spaces in front of their establishment and used that as info and dialogue towards the ones opposed to parallel parking on Roosevelt St. to try to get them to change their mind.

What's the latest on the City's proposal?

plinko Mar 15, 2013 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 6011951)
I came across this "Original Architectural Rendering" of the Viad Tower online.

I thought there was supposed to be a twin, but I had never known the original (or the twin) was supposed to be shorter with the angled slopes much more pronounced. Anyone ever seen this or known about this? Plinko?

Interesting. I've never seen that before. It's definitely the same architect (HKS of Dallas), but obviously a much different building.

FYI, the 'twin' was suppose to be built at 90 degrees to the current tower to the north of the parking structure where the current surface lot sits on 1st Ave.

PHX31 Mar 15, 2013 5:03 PM

Lately I've been on a kick to discover historic buildings that remain in Phoenix. I know we've lost a ton to demolition through the years, but I've refused to give in to the notion that there is nothing historic left in Phoenix, or I refuse to believe I know every historic building or house still standing. There has to be more.

No one may give two shits about this stuff (my previous "discovery" of a possible horse hitching post remaining downtown didn't seem to matter to anyone), but it is interesting to me.

Looking over a 1930 aerial, I found what originally looked like 3 duplexes on the southeast corner of 7th Street/Whitton. There are some nice streets with remaining historic housing stock in the area, but not too much "multi-family" stuff, so they caught my eye. Here they are:

So I went to the existing aerial just to see what was there now, and there seems to be a new larger building - meaning the duplexes were demolished some time ago:

However, looking at the roofline, it looks like those duplexes might actually still be there. Going to streetview, I see that while some monolithic facade with an old mural is there, looking around the corner of the building you can see something more, with distinctive skinny arched windows (usually a dead giveaway of a pre-war building).

So a couple of those duplexes from at least the 1920s are actually still there, just hiding from view! I'll have to go in and check them out some day.

I also noticed this house just across the street on Whitton riding the streetview car:

Looks like some kind of territorial architecture to me, and it turns out this house/duplex was built in 1899-1900. Pretty sweet, considering how far from downtown Phoenix that must have been back in the day, and that it is still standing and that it is that old.

HX_Guy Mar 15, 2013 5:09 PM

Very cool stuff man, I love checking out things like this too, just haven't lately. :/

HooverDam Mar 15, 2013 6:16 PM

Thats awesome PHX31, I always appreciate when you post that sort of thing.

Speaking of HP stuff, the City is moving forward in the process to fill the HP Officer position in City Hall. Currently a lady named Michelle Dodds has had the role on a rather long (over a year) "interim" basis. I know she's applied for the position as well as a bunch of other people, so thats good. Far too many Departments in the City right now are oddly headed by interim people, which hampers what they can get done.

I've been asked to sit on the Citizens Review Committee to make a suggestion to the City regarding the hire. I'm not sure who the candidates are just yet, but I'll likely lean towards Ms Dodds as she did a heroic job on the David Wright House situation, already knows the inner workings of City Hall, and is extremely responsive/easy to work with from the community point of view.

Leo the Dog Mar 15, 2013 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 6053148)
No one may give two shits about this stuff (my previous "discovery" of a possible horse hitching post remaining downtown didn't seem to matter to anyone), but it is interesting to me.

I meant to comment on that...I thought that was super cool that they still exist in modern Phx. I LOVE history and historical items and the stories that go along with it. My mother's side of the family settled out west in the early 20th century. Some in AZ some in Mexico many in Northern Calif. I remember my grandmom telling stories of riding her horse into town (SE Arizona) to go to grammar school. They used to tie their horses up outside of school. They didn't have "the club" or anti-theft devices of any kind. Makes one realize just how far our society has collapsed on a very short period of time.

Anyways, I always appreciate the effort of documenting these treasures.
Thanks Phx31!

Vicelord John Mar 16, 2013 12:08 AM

Thought I'd share this picture with the forum. Took it at the top of dc ranch country club. If you squint you can see downtown.

Leo the Dog Mar 16, 2013 12:43 AM

Cool perspective of Phx. Nice view of scottsdale air park..

Vicelord John Apr 21, 2013 7:30 PM

a friend took a picture of me during today's bike ride and hipsterglammed it. My first thought upon seeing it was 'i remember when all those guys at skyscraperpage used to call me fat'.


dtnphx Apr 21, 2013 11:57 PM

Wow, you are a lot fitter than in the past. Good for you.

Leo the Dog Jun 27, 2013 5:41 AM

Heat wave
Good luck guys with the possible record breaking heat coming this weekend! The local news here is funny (eventhough many are old news anchors from Phx), talking about intense heat (mid 80's), they have no idea about 115-120!

PHX31 Aug 16, 2013 7:48 PM

Good Shepard School @ 19th Ave & Northern.

Still There!

We talked about this building on Central and Adams before, and how it would be awesome if the facade could be restored (impossible).

Just found a pretty good picture of it. I really wish this remained as is, and, while we're at it, I'd swap out the current for the historic hotel too (although, I believe it burned down).

phxSUNSfan Aug 16, 2013 8:13 PM


Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 6235154)
We talked about this building on Central and Adams before, and how it would be awesome if the facade could be restored (impossible).

Wow, that was a really nice building across from the hotel. However, I think it was more than destroyed beyond the façade. I believe the fire in 1910 that destroyed the brick and wood-framed Hotel Adams spread to that building. So it's possible the bland box in the first picture is a newer building. After the fire, the hotel was replaced by a grander Hotel Adams that was demoed for the brutalist hotel (Renaissance Phoenix Downtown) we have today.

Original hotel replaced with this less elaborately designed, but still nice, building:

PHX31 Aug 16, 2013 8:33 PM

/\From what I've read about it, it just had a horrible "update". Haven't read anything about the fire hitting that building too.

phxSUNSfan Aug 16, 2013 8:38 PM


Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 6235217)
/\From what I've read about it, it just had a horrible "update". Haven't read anything about the fire hitting that building too.

And that is correct, just found a source saying the Gooding Building was hosed off to protect it from the heat when the hotel was not salvageable and allowed to burn to the ground:

"The Adams Hotel, largest and finest in the valley at the time, burned to the ground in 1910. Located at Central and Adams Street in Phoenix, it was built of brick with spacious wooden sleeping porches all around. It wasn’t an apocalypse, however, all the hotel staff and guests managed to escape with their lives. Rebuilt in poured concrete, the second Adams Hotel survived until demolished in 1973. Now the Crown Plaza occupies the site. The fire hose in the picture is trained on the Gooding Building across the street to protect it from exposure to the heat."

From this site:

nickw252 Sep 1, 2013 8:40 PM

Does anyone here know what the procedure for taking an RV to an ASU game for tailgating is? What lot can you park in? Can you leave it over night? Do you have to pay? Etc.

PhxER Sep 2, 2013 2:55 AM

RV and Bus Parking
RV and parking is available for purchase in Lot 59N on Rio Salado and Packard Drive for $50 per vehicle.

To Purchase Parking Passes
Parking passes are limited. To purchase a parking pass, transfer spaces or add to a season ticket holder account, contact the Sun Devil Ticket Office at (480) 727-0000.

Parking lots in the northern portions of campus (season pass holder areas) open 5 hours prior to kickoff; all other ASU lots and structures open 3 1/2 hours prior to kickoff.


HooverDam Sep 5, 2013 10:33 PM

Shameless self promotion ahead:

My girlfriends floral shop has moved from Old Town Scottsdale to Downtown Phoenix. They don't do cash and carry bouquets (though they're considering expanding into that sector) they're a wedding/event florist. They were featured in a nice Downtown Devil piece here.

They'll be having their grand opening tomorrow, for First Fridays. They're in a cool red brick building on 7th St. Just south of where the CrossFit gym is (which is moving out to go take space in an old church, but rumors are something really cool could be replacing them).

Here's a Facebook event page. If you're doing the First Fridays thing, swing on by. There will be drinks, some finger foods, games, etc.

PHX31 Sep 5, 2013 10:46 PM

Do you know which church the crossfit gym is moving to?

HooverDam Sep 6, 2013 3:22 PM


Originally Posted by PHX31 (Post 6256369)
Do you know which church the crossfit gym is moving to?

No, I don't, sorry. That info may not even be 100% correct. I just asked one of their gym members "where is it moving?" and he said "into a church" and ran off. :/

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