Forbes 2020 Billionaire Census by City
 

It's been a while since Ive seen a thread on this topic so here's an update.

So Forbes has this map you can navigate through that has the number of billionaires there are in individual areas. I combined them by CSA(for example, I combined NY and Fairfield county). I wish I was better versed at German metro configurations because there are so many close to each other but I wasnt sure if they could be considered a single area? Same goes for the Pearl River Delta and Yangtze River Delta, massive concentrations of billionaires but Im not sure about merging them.

I selected cities with 10 or more.

Forbes Billionaires by City, 2020:
134 New York
95 San Francisco
71 Hong Kong
70 Moscow
67 Beijing
62 Los Angeles
58 London
46 Shanghai
44 Shenzhen
40 Miami
38 Mumbai
30 Singapore
29 Guangzhou
28 Seoul
26 Hangzhou
24 Taipei
23 Dallas
19 Istanbul
19 Sao Paulo
18 Boston
18 Delhi
18 Paris
17 Bangkok
17 Tokyo
16 Chicago
16 Stockholm
15 Houston
15 Washington
14 Manila
14 Ningbo
13 Madrid
12 Atlanta
12 Bangalore
12 Chengdu
12 Toronto
11 Dubai
11 Geneva
11 Mexico City
11 Milan
11 Montreal
11 Seattle
11 Xiamen
10 Phoenix
10 Rio de Janeiro
10 Sydney
10 Tel Aviv

Here's the link to their interactive map: https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/

Here's North America's Areas by Forbes' own boundaries--before I merged a bunch of them together...
116 Greater New York Area
64 Greater San Francisco Area
55 Greater Los Angeles Area
37 Greater Palm Beach Area
25 Greater Palo Alto Area
23 Greater Dallas Area
16 Greater Boston Area
16 Greater Chicago Area
15 Greater Greenwich Area
15 Greater Houston Area
12 Atlanta, GA
12 Greater Washington DC Area
11 Mexico City, DF
11 Montreal, QC
10 Greater Phoenix Area
10 Greater Seattle Area
9 Toronto, ON
8 Austin, TX
8 Greater Las Vegas Area
6 Greater Denver Area
6 Greater Detroit Area
6 Greater Tampa Area
5 Greater Bryn Mawr Area
5 Greater San Diego Area
5 Naples, FL
5 Vancouver, BC
4 Greater Nashville Area
4 Greater Oakland Area
4 Greater Oklahoma City Area
4 Greater Ventura Area
4 Jackson, WY
4 St Louis, MO
3 Cary, NC
3 Cleveland, OH
3 Greater Baltimore Area
3 Greater Portland Area
3 Omaha, NE
3 Provo, Utah
3 Racine, WI
3 San Antonio, TX

It's crazy that they separate NY from Greenwich, CT, which is a suburb of NYC.

SF and Miami are out of control for cities their size.

I expected Seattle to have more billionaires.

For Canada, one really sees the legacy of Montreal having been the country's biggest city for two centuries. Even if Toronto now has 2 million more people and is the HQ for corporate Canada.

Very surprised at Tokyo having so few

Surprised to see Toronto with such low numbers for being the premier city of Canada. It's on the level of Atlanta, Phoenix, and Seattle in the US.

Greater Bryn Mawr area? Lol... do you mean Greater Philadelphia area?

Well I think it's telling that most of these cities are in countries that have much fewer regulations for speculation, monopolies, tax loopholes (i.e., the tools necessary to create billionaires), so it tends to skew against countries like Canada that value protections for the middle and lower classes. In an America that didn't have levels of class divisions not seen outside of 2nd world countries, NYC would have maybe 20-25 billionaires and not 134.

Hooray for billionaires! :happybirthday:

I sort of answered your question just above.

I know, its weird. That's how Forbes titled that area, Philly was separate.

Philadelphia? Never heard of it. Is that near Bryn Mawr? :shrug:


I see Pittsburgh isn't on the list. We had 4 in recent times but 2 died of old age and one new one moved his home & business here so we are currently at 3:
1.) Joe Hardy (84 Lumber)
2.) Stanley Druckenmiller (Financier)
3.) Thomas Tull (Movie studio, tech startups & prof sports owner)

I imagine Theresa Heinz is in that group as well.

Doesn't she live in Boston?

I think she has houses all over the place, including Boston since that's been Kerry's home. But the family's home base estate is in Fox Chapel, just outside Pittsburgh city limits. I really have no idea what she considers her primary residence for tax purposes though.

Yeah that's a good point for these lists... surely most of these billionaires have homes in 10 different places.

Who's this? Is she related to ketchup? Good Lord, it is unfair that people producing that kind of processed food would grow so wealthy.
Regular Italian tomato paste is much better. Both healthier and tastier. Only, it takes more time and a bit more skills to cook it properly.
Hè, for example, pizza is not made up of ketchup, huh. The basic layer of sauce on your pizza is Italian tomato paste. Doesn't it taste better than ketchup? Dang, it does.
It's too bad that people don't have more time to cook for themselves and their loved ones, 'cause it's fun.

Otherwise, it'd be more relevant to have a gdp per capita ranking. Because who cares about billionaires?
I mean, even selling ketchup could make a billionaire of somebody.
:haha: It's just funny!

She married into the Heinz family... yes, the ketchup... and about a thousand other food products over the last nearly 2 centuries. A company that is now global conglomerate Kraft Heinz, making yes, billions of $ from mostly processed crap.

Although, who uses ketchup instead of real tomato sauce on their pizza? (I've never heard of anyone doing that.) :shrug:

Ben oui, that's what I said, didn't I? Ketchup is prohibited to pizza, legit pasta, lasagne...
Even in the US, they wouldn't do it. Their pizza is very decent, eh.

What is ketchup used for, then? Idk. Some hamburgers and fries, admittedly.
Ketchup is still much better than mayonnaise (that's way too fat) in fries.

This is clearly before California's coming tax hikes following which the "city" with the most billionaires per capita will be Incline, NV.

https://img-aws.ehowcdn.com/560x560p...6/88018956.jpg
https://www.google.com/search?rls=en...sH_hFOW0K5yeQM

Ketchup is tomato paste PLUS vinegar, sweetener (sugar or corn syrup) and some spices. Some people do make their own. But the bottled kind has a place as a table condiment on a lot of things like hot dogs, hamburgers, all sorts of fried foods.

The vinegar in ketchup is the main reason you wouldn't put it on pizza but on the other hand many recipes for barbecue sauce do include it because that item usually does have vinegar in some form.

The Heinz product I find incomprehensible is the canned "baked" beans the British eat for breakfast of all things. That habit alone condemns British cuisine.

Strangely, that's Stateline, NV (adjacent to South Lake Tahoe), not Incline Village, which is on the North side of the lake and mostly just expensive houses in trees. Incline Village is the part of Tahoe that's closest to Reno (assuming the Mt. Rose Highway isn't closed due to snow).

I had a high school teacher who commuted in his convertible or motorcycle from Incline Village to my high school in Reno. He was rich from inheritance and taught high school chemistry for fun...

Ketchup has no place on hotdogs.

It's ok with fries.

In Romania, people do indeed use ketchup on Pizza :yuck:

Thank you. I didn't know about the ingredients. I loved it as a kid (even in pasta, that purists would find absolutely shocking), but now that I'm older, I often find it just a bit too sugary. My personal taste gradually turned more towards mere tomato and some eastern spices like curry powder that I use extensively.

I didn't mean to be offensive to anybody, huh. I was just kidding. Ketchup is quite pop over here as well. ;)
Lol, we live in the same world and I bet the French took quite some part in Mrs Heinz's fortune...

This is not a cuisine course anyway.

It's not that far-fetched to put ketchup in pasta. Pasta sauce is supposed to have a touch of sugar to balance out the acidity of the tomatoes, so that's probably why many people find the taste of ketchup to be complementary with pasta.

That's just really weird attitude about hot dogs, of all foods :haha:

I hate these types of "food rules", that people usually from a certain area where said food originates from/is popular, get all silly about adhering to... as if there's a sophisticated manner in which to dress meat goo encased in intestines.

We've got some really thrifty billionaires.

I won't say who, but this house valued at $1.7 Million in a very middle class Bay Area suburb is the primary residence of a multi billionaire who has no plans of ever moving. This person is not in high tech by the way.
https://i.imgur.com/31aKpfQ.png

Some people here actually have it on hot breakfast items like fried eggs, potatoes and meat like bacon/ham/sausage.

But I don't like that and even see it as a manque de savoir-vivre.

Some people also put ketchup on traditional Québécois meat pies like tourtières.

Again, not for me. My mother actually finds it insulting when people put ketchup on tourtières she has baked.

Are there really that many, though?

I have honestly never heard that - with respect to pasta or pizza.

It's mostly a joke :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog

When I was a kid I would put it on leftover spaghetti. You won't ever see it in Little Italy, but I've heard it mentioned enough to think it's not that uncommon. I don't get why someone would put it on pizza, though. The flavor of ketchup seems like it would clash with pizza.

As a fellow, former Eastern Bloc child, can confirm that ketchup on pizza was common :haha:

Yes, right... and my post wasn’t really directed at you, just a comment in general about people that actually take that stuff way too seriously... like Dirty Harry:

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I like how we’re not even off of page 2, and it’s quite clear that we’d much rather talk about condiments than billionaires :haha::haha::cheers:

^ Well yeah, that's gotta be the weirdest video I've seen this week so far...

I'm amazed at how many billionaires London and Moscow have lost. I think that they used to be somewhat close to NY. Miami's numbers have risen a lot.

It could just be differing methodology re. domicile. Billionaires will very likely have multiple homes.

I'm sure that the ones in NY, London, and Russia all have homes in at least NY, London, and South Florida.

Why is it so small? California has had the highest taxes in the nation for decades.

Incline Village is actually even smaller (that's showing StateLine NV, which is the casinios, and South Lake Tahoe, CA, which is the largest population center on Lake Tahoe.

Incline Village looks like this from "above":
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2626...!7i6240!8i3120

and like this from street level:
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.2495...7i16384!8i8192

Basically hiding in the forest.

Funny enough, ever since I started eating more Indian food and Indonesian food when I was in my 20s, I started not liking ketchup. It's too sweet. My friends in college used to think I was weird for mixing ketchup with black pepper. It made it taste better, in my opinion.

And interestingly enough, in the US, since the early 1990s, salsa has been the best-selling condiment, beating ketchup. Some say that sriracha will become the best-selling condiment.

Shows you how American culture has changed---for the better!

Ketchup and sriracha taste hella good together.

For fun, mix in some sriracha into your unsuspecting friend's ketchup.

You can also make ketchup taste good by mixing in some Cholula (or whatever spicy Mexican condiment you prefer). Otherwise, ketchup sucks--I'd rather dip french fries in ranch, have hot sauce with eggs, and put mustard and pickles on hot dogs/hamburgers. Ketchup is useless. I'm not even sure if we have any here right now.

I like ketchup precisely because it's sweet. Even though it's not popular in the local cuisine down here, I love sweet stuff on my meals. Obviously, it's a sauce made for meat, that's why I use it in burgers only.

BTW, Asian cuisines are full of sweet sauces. Tare and chutney being my favourites.

Bear in mind the 'Greater New York area' includes Philadelphia CSA.

The Hurun billionaire list differs also:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...f_billionaires

ketchup as pasta sauce also

Are we sure he wasn't rich from... being a great meth cook? :p