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thenoflyzone Sep 9, 2019 5:44 PM

LEVEL will increase ORY-YUL from 3x to 4x weekly for summer 2020.

Link in french only.

https://www.tourmag.com/LEVEL-France...s_a100017.html

SpongeG Sep 9, 2019 9:56 PM

Air Canada challenges WestJet-Onex deal; analyst says WestJet's international ambitions viewed as a threat

https://calgaryherald.com/business/l...ed-as-a-threat

Air Canada, WestJet, Air Transat, Porter hit with $45K in fines for violating new passenger protections

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/wes...-cta-1.5270705

WestJet has cancelled these flights out of Regina because of continued Boeing Max grounding

https://regina.ctvnews.ca/westjet-ha...ding-1.4585035

SpongeG Sep 9, 2019 10:06 PM

WOW Air to Fly Again in October

https://www.icelandreview.com/news/w...in-in-october/

thenoflyzone Sep 9, 2019 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8682303)

They plan on starting with 2 planes. So far so good.
Thereafter they plan on having 10-12 by summer 2020. :brickwall:

Guess they haven’t learnt much about why WOW failed in the first place.

Unbelievable.

Bourkky Sep 9, 2019 11:05 PM

Anybody registered to ATWonline that can resume this article for us? If I can save 69$ hehe!! Its about better utilization of the Transat fleet by Air Canada. Thanks!
https://atwonline.com/airframes/air-...et-utilization

wave46 Sep 9, 2019 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8682318)
They plan on starting with 2 planes. So far so good.
Thereafter they plan on having 10-12 by summer 2020. :brickwall:

Guess they haven’t learnt much about why WOW failed in the first place.

Unbelievable.

Will people book on an airline that already went under again?

I mean, it's good for people flying to Europe on the cheap (read: some other investor's money), but I'm not too sure if there's a ton of margin in the game.

A number of airlines have started Iceland service now too. That wasn't the case when WOW debuted.

Someone once said that if you wanted a small fortune in the airline industry, you should start an airline using a large fortune.

wave46 Sep 9, 2019 11:25 PM

AKAIK, I think Icelandair is losing money too.

If the one domestic carrier is struggling to make it work, I can't see the addition of another helping.

whatnext Sep 10, 2019 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8682303)

Owned by an American arms dealer? No thanks. :no:

nname Sep 10, 2019 8:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8682303)

Speaking of which, seems like AC is converting KEF to Rouge permanently.

Latest changes for S20:

YUL-NCE convert to 5x weekly mainline A333

YUL-BOD convert to Rouge B763
YYZ/YUL-KEF convert to Rouge A319

The mainline flights out of YUL are still in the schedule, but YYZ-KEF flight number is now replaced by YUL-NCE.

SignalHillHiker Sep 10, 2019 8:57 AM

A few pics of the airport from our trip to Ireland and Scotland.

St. John's public area...

https://i.postimg.cc/xd4P3qFG/IMG-20190829-174150-1.jpg

After security, if you turn around when going up to the departures area, you'll see my fave abstract of St. John's. :D It's just perfect.

https://i.postimg.cc/nrrKjmxf/IMG-20190829-175431.jpg

Through security to Yellowbelly Public House...

https://i.postimg.cc/bvJTn1LN/IMG-20190829-175746-2.jpg

I assume it's because that certain type of plane is still not being used, but they've taken to flying us to mainland Canada on these noisy tin cans. You even have to walk outside to get on them.

https://i.postimg.cc/4dYBDphF/IMG-20190829-200055-1.jpg

Then, on the way back, landing at Halifax. You can see the city in the distance.

https://i.postimg.cc/L5fvXRDt/IMG-20190909-144412.jpg

It was a big shock to be back in a "smoking/vaping" area after Europe. Dublin has ashtrays on either side of every entrance.

https://i.postimg.cc/5ycqDTJ6/IMG-20190909-114618.jpg

The name of this store cracked us up. Why not just go full SEO optimization and choose something "Island Beach Sea Lake of Nova Scotia Boutique Shore Shop".

https://i.postimg.cc/vBxtqMpJ/IMG-20190909-113505-2.jpg

Flying back to St. John's.

This was near the edge of Nova Scotia. Not sure what it is - but the most built-up area of the province we actually fly over on our flight path...

https://i.postimg.cc/C5XtrSMX/IMG-20190909-174849-2.jpg

Over Conception Bay South...

https://i.postimg.cc/x1C5JW0b/IMG-20190909-183415-2.jpg

Back over Mount Pearl, ALMOST home!

https://i.postimg.cc/bYBKwH0g/IMG-20190909-183614-2.jpg

I was on the wrong side of the plane to see the city proper, but here's Kilbride. Coming from the mainland, planes always have to fly past the city, do a full turn above Cape Spear, and then come back in to land. It's always fun, and scenic.

https://i.postimg.cc/fR5Ck8cr/IMG-20190909-183659-1.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/9FdJHmrV/IMG-20190909-184127-2.jpg

Back on the ground...

https://i.postimg.cc/htKMSkdm/IMG-20190909-184643.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/Y9TbMj62/IMG-20190909-184632.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/qBC1QXrN/IMG-20190909-184726.jpg

jmt18325 Sep 10, 2019 9:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 8681203)
I’m a flight attendant on the Dreamliner. Normal operational procedures call for the Captain’s announcement at top of descent (30 minutes prior to scheduled landing), followed by the seatbelt sign being turned on, and then the cabin is secured for landing at 20 minutes prior to landing (unless turbulence is expected and it might be done earlier in that case). At 10 minutes before landing, cabin crew do a final walk through before taking their jumpseats. If the pilots receive word that there’s a hold on landing due to air traffic, you might circle a bit before receiving clearance to land. That’s not Westjet’s call, so if it turned out to be an hour between the seatbelt sign and landing, about half of that is out of westjet’s Control, but procedures still need to be consistent and followed.

There was no turbulence nor hold in this case. I’ve flown long haul with several other carriers before. This was by far the worst experience. The service was fine, it just wasn’t as good.

Taeolas Sep 10, 2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 8682700)
A few pics of the airport from our trip to Ireland and Scotland.


Flying back to St. John's.

This was near the edge of Nova Scotia. Not sure what it is - but the most built-up area of the province we actually fly over on our flight path...

https://i.postimg.cc/C5XtrSMX/IMG-20190909-174849-2.jpg


Looks like you were over Cape Breton, and most likely over New Waterford going North East more or less.

You can see the point with the windmills on it in your photo, next to the Lingan Generating Station. And you can see a track oriented in the right direction in the bottom part of your pic as well.

Glace Bay would be near the top of your picture, on the other side of the bite from the generating station.

Sydney Airport is the one you can see at the top right as well. Were you on the other side of the plane you would've seen Sydney itself I'm sure.

SignalHillHiker Sep 10, 2019 1:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Taeolas (Post 8682770)
Looks like you were over Cape Breton, and most likely over New Waterford going North East more or less.

You can see the point with the windmills on it in your photo, next to the Lingan Generating Station. And you can see a track oriented in the right direction in the bottom part of your pic as well.

Glace Bay would be near the top of your picture, on the other side of the bite from the generating station.

Sydney Airport is the one you can see at the top right as well. Were you on the other side of the plane you would've seen Sydney itself I'm sure.

Oh, nice! That definitely appears to be it to me. I bet people on the other side of the plane could earlier see New Glasgow, etc.

hollywoodcory Sep 10, 2019 4:15 PM

https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...1-02acd9351690

LH launching YOW-FRA in May 2020. Wonder if this will replace the AC service.

rbt Sep 10, 2019 4:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8682876)
https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...1-02acd9351690

LH launching YOW-FRA in May 2020. Wonder if this will replace the AC service.

Probably.

Air Canada has a special agreement with GTAA for fixed landing fees since 2014 with expectations of passenger growth. So, at YOW both LH and AC pay the same fees (AFAIK) but at YYZ AC has lower rates than LH.

Route swaps will likely continue until AC operates all practical routes out of YYZ to improve profit to their Joint Ventures.


WestJet has a similar deal with YYZ (started 2016) and a recent trans-border Joint Venture with Delta; so I expect Delta crews will be replaced by WestJet crews in the near future.

thenoflyzone Sep 10, 2019 5:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8682876)
https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...1-02acd9351690

LH launching YOW-FRA in May 2020. Wonder if this will replace the AC service.

Well this solves the AC 767 dilemma on YOW-FRA. Great add nonetheless.

Dominion301 Sep 10, 2019 6:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8682964)
Well this solves the AC 767 dilemma on YOW-FRA. Great add nonetheless.

Never thought I'd see the day that LH would come to YOW. It's completely unclear as to whether this is in addition to AC or replacing AC. AC's seasonal flight is supposed to return 14MAY20 with a departure at 2135. This 1750 departure time on LH would actually perfectly complement that and would actually allow for a lot more pax to connect at YOW.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...apital-460761/

Quote:

Star Alliance partner Air Canada already operates the service from Ottawa to Frankfurt, and also connects the Canadian capital to London Heathrow.
Seems to indicate AC's sticking around, but I'm skeptical. 5/6 mainline 763s are staying for 2020. However, Lord knows YOW could easily absorb the additional capacity to Europe.

If it is in fact replacing AC, then YOW-FRA's net capacity will actually drop by 5.9% next year.

This will be the first European carrier at YOW since Thomas Cook/Canadian Affair over a decade ago and first Euro flag carrier since KL left in 1996. It's also YOW's 4th ever European airline with scheduled or charter service with the other being Bulgaria's short-lived Jes Air on A310s flying YOW-JFK-SOF for a couple of years in the early 90s.

wave46 Sep 10, 2019 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8682876)
https://newsroom.lufthansagroup.com/...1-02acd9351690

LH launching YOW-FRA in May 2020. Wonder if this will replace the AC service.

I'm curious about the metal they'll use - will they try a A321neo, or go whole hog with a A330/A340-300?

jmt18325 Sep 10, 2019 8:09 PM

:slob:
Quote:

Originally Posted by wave46 (Post 8683273)
I'm curious about the metal they'll use - will they try a A321neo, or go whole hog with a A330/A340-300?

The article lists an A340

wave46 Sep 10, 2019 8:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmt18325 (Post 8683308)
:slob:

The article lists an A340

Yeah, thinking and reading prior to commenting helps. :P

Love those quads though! :)


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