Not a big fan of this design:( . Looks like they are repeating the 432 park design with minor changes .
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Hopefully Chase uses the taller/thinner option. Then Midtown will have three 1500 ft+ towers, and NYC will have the four tallest towers on earth outside of Asia.
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Despite the height, the design sucks. I’ll pass.
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Imagining the tower rising here in this shot...
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I'm imagining something similar to Citigroup from street level, but I could be off... https://adri99blog.files.wordpress.c...2_0.jpg?w=1200 https://adri99blog.wordpress.com/type/image/ |
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But it's coming. We'll eventually get a new focal point for Midtown, probably at 2,000 ft. |
If we look at the rendering, assuming this tower is at scale with One Vandy, IDK if this is 1 mil-sqft. I think it may be more.
It looks way to bulky compared to 1 Vandy @ 1.6-1.7 mil-sqft. And it has a higher floor count too. This has to be more than a mil-sqft. Unless the rendering is not to scale because the foot print for this development I don't believe is anywhere near the Vandy footprint. |
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Also, we don't know the size. We've only been told over 1 million sq. ft. And keep in mind there's no space near street level, unlike Vanderbilt. The bulk is basically all above 400 ft. |
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What I'm leading to is we'll probally see something within 1600-1700, than 1700-1800, before see see a solid 600m tower. I hope I'm wrong, and a developer with guts and an ego goes for the coveted 600m group. Quote:
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On another note, I'm wondering why the building stops just a foot higher than CPT. Is Macklowe trolling Barnett somehow? Who knows. |
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Maybe some bad blood leftover from the One57/432 Park days....:shrug:
Maybe Macklowe wasn't pleased with the idea of CPT taking the spotlight from 432. Maybe it's all in my head, lol. But Barnett still has some developments of his own in the area still to come. I would love to see an epic skyscraper war. |
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Barnett wants to be the skyline king of Midtown. |
It would be cool if the CPT crown could be extended or sloped in a certain way, then maybe transition into a spire.
I agree that (hopefully) Barnett will have none of it (the being topped that is) ;) |
As the fight between Barnett and Macklowe rages on, in the shadows, JDS's Michael Stern is devising a superior tower, armed with the heavy ammunition, SHoP architects.
Vinoly is like a small 22 Caliber, where SHoP is a thermobaric missile. While I'm at it, I guess Kaufman would be akin to a dirty bomb. Just poisons the landscape anywhere his towers grow. Praise Jesus this is not a Kaufman design. Can you imagine what a 1,551 ft Kaufman design would be like? :runaway: |
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Somebody put Garodnick back in the box. I like Macklowe's spirit. The area has been zoned for a FAR of 18. I'm not sure of the exact size of the combined footprint. But maybe it's going through ULURP because it has a greater FAR. http://a4.pbase.com/o9/06/102706/1/1...jtfxecG.d1.JPG |
If JPMorgan ends up proposing their tower's actual design with a roof taller than 1551', do you think this tower will end up taller too? If we got the 1556' massing as the design, it would be nice to have this bumped to 1557'.
I wouldn't be surprised if this tower's design and/or height change (I would assume they won't try to make it shorter if they want to have the tallest roof in the hemisphere, so I would consider 1551' to be the minimum height if approvals go well). The rendering looks very rough, and the cladding isn't detailed. |
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I also don't know if they're going with the 1560' version (1,400' seems to be what they want) |
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