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WS S23 Long haul changes
YYC-LHR 1x daily YYC-CDG 1x daily YYC-LGW 1x daily YYC-FCO Up to 5x weekly YYC-DUB Up to 5x weekly YVR-LGW 1x daily YYZ-EDI/DUB/GLA are all still scheduled No AMS, and unsurprisingly no new routes that I've found(they probably won't get loaded until Monday). |
Means while, looks like AC continue to cut back on YYC in the latest schedule update.
Following routes are suspended or cancelled: YYC-YQR/YXE/YZF/YYJ/YCD/YKA YYC-SFO/IAH Following routes have frequency cut by half or more: YYC-YMM/YQU/YLW YYC-YEG gets a 30% cut too. Some flights are still left in schedule but zeroed out, but most flights are fully removed. Now looks like YYC will be much smaller than half of the size of YVR and YUL operation. Not sure if AC is still planning to keep YYC as a hub? Mean whiles, expands FCO service using 788 for additional flights YYZ-FCO to 10x weekly (AC888) YUL-FCO to 8x weekly (AC904) |
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-YEG gone - An eventual E95 route for a certain operator no doubt. So the only YOW-YEG nonstops are on the ULCCs next summer (F8 & WO) -BOS gone -YFC gone -YQM gone -YYG gone - looks like F8 won -YYT gone - seems like a prime ULCC opportunity & future E95 route of a certain someone -EWR down to 1x (plus 2 UA E70s or 75s) - insane that there's still no afternoon or evening EWR departure -YHZ down to 2x - excluding 2020/21, that's the lowest capacity since the 80s for AC -YUL down to 7x and no mainline -YYZ down to 11x from 16x...at least before 0800 the equipment is mainline and the one-way fares are under $200. This winter the two early a.m.'s are CR9s and are north of $500 daily one-way. In other words, the return to hourly Rapidair service is still a ways off. -DCA daily flight cut to a CRJ from a CR9, which is what it's been since it returned several months ago - pre-pandemic this was 2x daily CRJ So for summer 2023, AC will fly nonstop out of YOW to a mere 10 destinations. Excluding 2020 & 21, you'd have to go back to the mid-1970s for an AC YOW summer season nonstop destination count this low. Even this past summer it was 12 with YEG & YYG operating (13 if you count the 3 weeks YQB returned for cut they got walloped with the flight crew shortages). To put things in perspective, Flair are currently planning to serve 10 nonstop destinations out of YOW next summer, of which 4 they'll have zero nonstop competition on...I sure hope Flair survive the lean winter months. The only AC consolation prize YOW gets is the 789 is back on one of the three daily YOW-YVR rotations. |
All of those are regional routes operated by Jazz, so curious if operational challenges played a factor in those cuts.
YYC-SFO/IAH are both flown on UA. Be curious is SFO gets mainline again. Additionally, I see now WS added a 3rd YYC-LAX flight in March on select days. Quote:
I saw on twitter that WS closed bookings on YYZ-GLA/DUB but I see both of them still limited to full-fare W/Y class. If my math is correct, without the expected new routes WS has 31x weekly TATL from YYC in S23. |
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I'm still sort of surprised YOW is getting gutted so badly by AC. At least WS is focussing on the west + there's a lot more ULCC competition too. Whereas YOW isn't seeing much competition to the extent YYC is to warrant all the cuts (unless you count potential new PD routes, none of which have been announced yet) |
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YVR-LGW WS22 Arrives 10:25 WS23 Departs 13:00 YYC-LGW WS01 Arrives 09:00 WS02 Departs 11:00 |
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Surprising. It does mean AC becomes an all jet airline in Saskatoon and Regina. CRJ900 to Montreal and Vancouver. A320/319 to Toronto. This may be the negative impact of Swoop and Flair. Both those are going to set to cause a lot of damage to air service into small centers. They are virtually useless airlines for onwards connections. If we are going to allow them to continue to operation the government needs to force them to interline with others. |
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Old: BNE-YVR-EWR-YVR-BNE New: BNE-YVR-YOW(x6)/CUN(6)-YVR-BNE |
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Of course they can still cancel the YVR-LGW run and reroute everyone through YYC if they need to cancel a flight. Hard to do so for any other destinations though. But other than that, I don't see much room for expansion with what they have. |
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Also based on the AC cuts at YYC I'm expecting WS to beef up their schedule a decent amount. They'll probably have a lot of feed for these flights but wow, we're looking at roughly 5 daily TATL flights from YYC on WS next summer, and about 4 on every other TATL airline combined. |
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Maybe the plane can't rotate in time, but just a thought. |
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But they haven't open the flights for reservation, so I'm just assuming all departure/arrivals at YYC will be in the early evenings. Quote:
Maybe there's just an extra 4x weekly 788 at YYZ and they can't find a new destination. The plane will be operating as Wed: YYZ-FCO-YYZ Thurs: something else Fri-Sun: YYZ-FCO-YUL-FCO-YYZ-FCO-YYZ Mon-Tues: something else So if they want to use it for YVR, it can only be at most 2x weekly flight on Sat and Sun. Widebody planes at YVR is currently fully scheduled for S23. If they want to add something new, then they'll need to add 7 weekly flights, or do a W pattern from YYZ or YUL. |
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YYC-LHR/LGW/CDG & YVR-LGW - 4 frames YYC-FCO/DUB don't run every day. On Sun, Tue, Wed and Fri only one of those routes flies. So they could add 3x weekly each YYC-BCN/EDI and still have some slack in the fleet. |
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WS001 YYC-LGW 17:30 Daily WS006 YYC-DUB 19:55 12457 WS010 YYC-CDG 19:40 Daily WS018 YYC-LHR 20:30 Daily WS022 YVR-LGW 17:10 Daily WS032 YYC-FCO 18:05 13456 |
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By the way even though YYZ-DUB/GLA have been dropped from the booking portal EDI is still up. Wonder if that means that's the sole YYZ TATL route? |
Minister of Transport announces expanded Canada-Colombia Air Transport Agreement to allow unlimited flights and destinations
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Hmm YVR - BOG one day?
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Canadian carriers have never been at the limit of the previous bilateral. So there was always room to add YVR-BOG.
Currently for W22, AC is 7x weekly and TS is 3x weekly. That’s 10x weekly, leaving 4x weekly unused. The new agreement will probably mean more YYZ/YUL in the short term, until AC gets more widebodies. |
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