Well as upset as I am in the height decrease, If 1089 doesn't need further approval, why not just go for it? that's still very tall, and from the looks of the rendering would make just as much of a skyline impact.
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Look at the difference in the two: http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/112696629/original.jpg |
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Although Amanda Burden is the head of the City Planning Commission - I think it should be noted that it was a unanimous vote to reduce the height by the entire commission. Other than the height reduction of the tower, the other most disturbing revelation out of this whole ordeal is that the CPC thinks that new buildings shouldn't rival the Empire State in height in midtown. Terrible precedent. I think they will realize this is a mistake in the future... |
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The height reduction is a condition of Hines getting those special permits. The tower loses roughly the top 6 floors, which may not seem like a lot of space, but considering the tapered form the tower has to take, it will lead to more reduction in the lower floors... http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117140892/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117140872/original.jpg http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117140884/original.jpg |
Those diagrams probably fueled the NIMBY fire. For the record, they are distortions; elevational drawings which disregard perspective and point of view. In reality, Tower Verre would never appear to be so tall next to the Empire State Building, because the two are almost 20 blocks apart. You would also struggle to find anyplace where you could get a really clear view looking straight North at the two buildings like that.
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An article in the Times yesterday, which I can't find on the web right now, got it exactly right - the city is turning the skyline into a mausoleum.
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So I guess it'll be shorter than Conde and BofA Tower if you count the spires?
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With a few exceptions, most of the new stuff are poorer in design and material than those found in many other cities. If the new stuff we're getting now is what the future holds, then give me 1939 New York instead. What is so sad is that none of those ugly-ass buildings face any obstacles from anyone but the minute someone proposes something beautiful, everyone and their uncle comes out against it. The stupid people of this city don't deserve this tower. Hines should build a squat box and be done with it. Sick of this city already. |
Build it all, or not at all. That remains my opinion. I'd rather the tower not be built than be butchered.
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That's a stubborn view point. I'd rather have a redesigned 1050 ft building than no building at all.What does building nothing do for the skyline?
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What does building a gimped version of a beautiful building do? Accepting glass in place of a diamond is now a reasonable trade?
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Trust me, I would love to see this project at full height, but I'll take a nice re-design over nothing. Many buildings have been proposed and redesigned for various reasons before being built, and most people never even noticed. I'm sure it will be tastefully done. If they can design a nice, unique, building once, I'm sure they can do it again. Only this time it will HAVE to be 200 ft shorter. There is nothing anyone can do now.
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^ Let's stay on topic.
Here's an idea of how a 1,050 ft Tower Verrre would stack up among the "second place" towers of Midtown... http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/117190492/original.jpg |
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